Anyone else believe the AI knows which champ it's facing and adjusts accordingly?
hungryhungrybbq
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Not necessarily a complaint, just an observation that I can't realistically deny anymore. Keep in mind I'm just referring to high end content AI. Not all AI.
Attack with Ghost: passive.. backs off, but maybe tries to attack the instant the phase will expire
Attack with Quake: insanely agressive
Attack with Omega: seems to instinctively back away when death field is up
Attack with Corvus (without an evade charge): Evade champs suddenly won't evade (Even Ultron after 7 seconds)
I wasn't ever completely sure. I knew that there was always the possibility that it's just the perspective we are observing it from (we want them to behave a certain way and only take note when they do not). After the AQ fight I just did, it's really hard for me to deny it now. Map 7/sec 2, there's an NC with the defensive node. I decided to try Ghost. Yep, totally passive. Literally spamming dash back after dash back over and over. I lost (entered with low health). Ok, I decided.. let's try Quake then. She loves passive AI. He immediately dashed in and began swinging non stop the entire fight:) This is with the Defensive node mind you. Just thought it was funny. I think high end AI are way more aware of their situation than we give them credit for sometimes. Oh, side note: pretty sure I had a SG dex my Ghost sp2 in sec 1. Not evade, but dex it (critical hits cannot be evaded).. not sure how else to describe it. Thoughts?
Attack with Ghost: passive.. backs off, but maybe tries to attack the instant the phase will expire
Attack with Quake: insanely agressive
Attack with Omega: seems to instinctively back away when death field is up
Attack with Corvus (without an evade charge): Evade champs suddenly won't evade (Even Ultron after 7 seconds)
I wasn't ever completely sure. I knew that there was always the possibility that it's just the perspective we are observing it from (we want them to behave a certain way and only take note when they do not). After the AQ fight I just did, it's really hard for me to deny it now. Map 7/sec 2, there's an NC with the defensive node. I decided to try Ghost. Yep, totally passive. Literally spamming dash back after dash back over and over. I lost (entered with low health). Ok, I decided.. let's try Quake then. She loves passive AI. He immediately dashed in and began swinging non stop the entire fight:) This is with the Defensive node mind you. Just thought it was funny. I think high end AI are way more aware of their situation than we give them credit for sometimes. Oh, side note: pretty sure I had a SG dex my Ghost sp2 in sec 1. Not evade, but dex it (critical hits cannot be evaded).. not sure how else to describe it. Thoughts?
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Also I have started versing a Master Interceptor A.I which is so annoying
Only quake uses the heavy + [parry/evade style so that's quite easy to code for w/o specifically having to ensure it is only vs quake. I'm sure if you try to play quake like say Iron patriot, the aggresiveness tones down because of the difference in play style/inputs. Additionally, no other attacker uses the style popular for Ghost - no other attacker idles (in phase) vs the AI so also very easy to code for - depending on the content they will consistently rush in (eg AW it seems to work) or they will wait it out.
The corvus evade issue is more questionable, yet one regularly seen in AQ at least for me when I carry Proxima - you don't get an evade until they are at too low health to survive the knockdown is something I will see 4 out of 6 times per AQ cycle. It could of course be selective memory, but given when you use other champs that can't counter evades, the evade incidence is almost 80%, you can't but wonder. The trick I've found is never count on getting an evade and play like it won't happen - that's usually when it does!
Nah, just noticing odd patterns and wondering if anyone else notices them. I'll try to remember to record that NCs behavior next time. If I also happen to have both Ghost and Quake on the team.
I've been repeating the same fight over and over again, and it's came to a point where I pretty much have an idea how the AI will react when I use certain champs.
This is not a bad thing, it just means I'm more prepare and know how to counter.
What you are almost certainly seeing is you playing differently because your using a different champion. You don't play all these champions the same way, so you should expect to see differences in how they play you.
Ghost was mentioned as an example, how many fights do you complete by doing 4 hit combos, backing off and not blocking consistently? Its not the champion the AI is reacting to, its you playing differently.