World record for item use during season war

The_CROWN

My friend was playing war and with some Chinese ally and happened unexpected.... More than 500 defender kills world record..... During season really who are they man....

SpideyFunko

there shouldn’t be items in war

The_CROWN

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

SpideyFunko

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

The_CROWN

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

No skill can do tier1 war itemless

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The_CROWN

Arsoz said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

No skill can do tier1 war itemless

Pull up with quake or ghost

Still no.... Lagacy is always in top ally getting zero kill for him is also not easy

Lvernon15

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

That won’t work in tier 1, speaking as someone playing in a tier 1 ally, there’s almost always item use, not necessarily due to screw ups, with stubborn you take a lot of block damage. Now I’d be all for a complete aw rework where maps tactics etc are changed to be more manageable and then ban items, but the current map just isn’t realistic for that, I’ve had 3 wars on this new map where I haven’t needed to heal (excluding off season) and I have one of the lower item uses of my ally

SpideyFunko

Lvernon15 said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

That won’t work in tier 1, speaking as someone playing in a tier 1 ally, there’s almost always item use, not necessarily due to screw ups, with stubborn you take a lot of block damage. Now I’d be all for a complete aw rework where maps tactics etc are changed to be more manageable and then ban items, but the current map just isn’t realistic for that, I’ve had 3 wars on this new map where I haven’t needed to heal (excluding off season) and I have one of the lower item uses of my ally

Fine. But are revives really needed?

lowlevelplayer

SpideyFunko said:

Lvernon15 said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

That won’t work in tier 1, speaking as someone playing in a tier 1 ally, there’s almost always item use, not necessarily due to screw ups, with stubborn you take a lot of block damage. Now I’d be all for a complete aw rework where maps tactics etc are changed to be more manageable and then ban items, but the current map just isn’t realistic for that, I’ve had 3 wars on this new map where I haven’t needed to heal (excluding off season) and I have one of the lower item uses of my ally

Fine. But are revives really needed?

you shouldn't be dying. If you die, yes. If not, no

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SpideyFunko

Ya_Boi_28 said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

You can't do it itemless. You have to have 30 people do 150 war fights without screwing up at all. Still a lot of pots that have to be used also.

do you need revives tho? At least lower the item cap to ten

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GroundedWisdom

Yes, you need Items. That was the whole point of removing Defender Kills as a metric. The system rewards people by not having to use them by way of Attack Bonus. However, it shouldn't penalize people for using them. Also, good luck one-shotting a Boss in higher Tiers. Some can, but good luck. Lol.

GroundedWisdom

However 516 is quite insane.

Panchulon21

Items are just a way to keep kabam healthy. Some will use units where in turn will get those units from the store. If they remove items they remove
A revenue stream they have.

Stubborn requires items due to the block damage you take. Doom as boss will hit through your block at 5%+ trying to remove indestructible. Stubborn is designed for item use because the only way to remove the buff is by taking some damage whether it’s chip or actually getting hit.

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lowlevelplayer

Ya_Boi_28 said:

lowlevelplayer said:

SpideyFunko said:

Lvernon15 said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

That won’t work in tier 1, speaking as someone playing in a tier 1 ally, there’s almost always item use, not necessarily due to screw ups, with stubborn you take a lot of block damage. Now I’d be all for a complete aw rework where maps tactics etc are changed to be more manageable and then ban items, but the current map just isn’t realistic for that, I’ve had 3 wars on this new map where I haven’t needed to heal (excluding off season) and I have one of the lower item uses of my ally

Fine. But are revives really needed?

you shouldn't be dying. If you die, yes. If not, no

Define 'shouldn't' in that instance.

Seraphion

Stubborn is just Flow 2.0 with more Quake/Ghost counter. Non parry matchups can be so hard.

I sometimes play 4 min fights vs some nodes. War got so dragged out. A lot of nodes are really stupid.
For example Modok on shifting hazard.
At least that my personal exp. Tier 2 btw

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danielmath

Seraphion said:

Stubborn is just Flow 2.0 with more Quake/Ghost counter. Non parry matchups can be so hard.

I sometimes play 4 min fights vs some nodes. War got so dragged out. A lot of nodes are really stupid.
For example Modok on shifting hazard.
At least that my personal exp. Tier 2 btw

That’s just a free corvus charge

lowlevelplayer

Ya_Boi_28 said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Ya_Boi_28 said:

lowlevelplayer said:

SpideyFunko said:

Lvernon15 said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

That won’t work in tier 1, speaking as someone playing in a tier 1 ally, there’s almost always item use, not necessarily due to screw ups, with stubborn you take a lot of block damage. Now I’d be all for a complete aw rework where maps tactics etc are changed to be more manageable and then ban items, but the current map just isn’t realistic for that, I’ve had 3 wars on this new map where I haven’t needed to heal (excluding off season) and I have one of the lower item uses of my ally

Fine. But are revives really needed?

you shouldn't be dying. If you die, yes. If not, no

Define 'shouldn't' in that instance.

In that specific instance. Should they not die as in 'the paths are easy, so they shouldn't die' or is it more of 'they are skilled, so they shouldn't die'.

they are skilled, so they shouldn't die

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TP33

Itemless wars? No. I don’t think wars should be changed in terms of revives. If you die then you lose points. So what they can revive? At least give people a chance. In the last war I played I died 3 times.

Once after I fully dodged an L2 and he somehow hit me as I went in to retaliate.

One after I lost my flow fighting a MODOK on Bane and ended up getting degened into oblivion.

Another after I died to block damage to the boss.

Mistakes happen. We learn. Removing revives would make wars pretty much impossible and would remove the little fun left in it.

AGYAAT

It's good idea to show your overall alliance's skills, only if item are not allowed in war so no one can heal or revive then do as much as exploration as you can without items for points(deciding factor for victory) yeah then war map also need a complete rework than it's doesn't matter you are in tire 1 or tire 10

But this is not good for kabam's business😅

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

The_enlightened

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

lowlevelplayer said:

Ya_Boi_28 said:

lowlevelplayer said:

Ya_Boi_28 said:

lowlevelplayer said:

SpideyFunko said:

Lvernon15 said:

SpideyFunko said:

The_CROWN said:

SpideyFunko said:

there shouldn’t be items in war

Wow that's impossible

if you have the skill, or piggyback routes, you could do it itemless.

at the minimum, no revives.

That won’t work in tier 1, speaking as someone playing in a tier 1 ally, there’s almost always item use, not necessarily due to screw ups, with stubborn you take a lot of block damage. Now I’d be all for a complete aw rework where maps tactics etc are changed to be more manageable and then ban items, but the current map just isn’t realistic for that, I’ve had 3 wars on this new map where I haven’t needed to heal (excluding off season) and I have one of the lower item uses of my ally

Fine. But are revives really needed?

you shouldn't be dying. If you die, yes. If not, no

Define 'shouldn't' in that instance.

In that specific instance. Should they not die as in 'the paths are easy, so they shouldn't die' or is it more of 'they are skilled, so they shouldn't die'.

they are skilled, so they shouldn't die

So how much of this is from espero in higher level war

Or are both of you still in act 5

Plantesan

I mean, if Kabam’ goal is to limit the amount of full map clears, that would be the to-the-point option to consider, right?

To OP post, holy smokes!

EB54

516/30=17.2 deaths per person. That’s almost 5 revives each. This blows my mind.
I’d love to see the in game msg that shows individual kills.

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