Which masteries give +500 attack? Suicides give +60% attack (approximately 1200)(
just off the top of my head I can get up to 400 with str, greater str and glass cannon.
Yeah but no-one uses greater strength
And we dont know his setup for that video, nor the team if he had one, it is jsut fights and the data. Did you really think they would make a champ that at rank 5 5* would legitimatly be 120 attack away from a rank 3 6*?
The armor break tune down on bleed immunes was just, but I disagree with the prowess cap reduction. It shouldβve at least reduced by half of what they have it at now.
Reducing it to 15 wouldβve made hit a little bit harder than the stick he was before. Thatβs a dumb idea.
The armor break tune down on bleed immunes was just, but I disagree with the prowess cap reduction. It shouldβve at least reduced by half of what they have it at now.
Reducing it to 15 wouldβve made hit a little bit harder than the stick he was before. Thatβs a dumb idea.
Wow lol I just posted details I observed like less prowess how can you "disagree" on that. Its just literally what happened.
I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, though I could be wrong. But someone that cares to actually do the math should jump in. @DNA3000? π
What? 45 prowess to 35. That is 77%. So bleeds are effectively 77% of what they were, disregarding the randomness from 70% of the prowess in the bleeds from sp3 because if affects both.
250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.
Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.
I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
the minor nerf he got i'm okay with it. I already R5 my red magneto and will be a happy user once buff comes out
Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom Modok, Darkhawk Corvus HB Sentinel Warlock G2099 (can't miss her) Green Goblin Dragon Man Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav) Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected Wolverine Weapon X Cable
Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate
the minor nerf he got i'm okay with it. I already R5 my red magneto and will be a happy user once buff comes out
Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom Modok, Darkhawk Corvus HB Sentinel Warlock G2099 (can't miss her) Green Goblin Dragon Man Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav) Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected Wolverine Weapon X Cable
Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate
I can't wait to fight crossbones in 6.1 and degen him to death.
Wow lol I just posted details I observed like less prowess how can you "disagree" on that. Its just literally what happened.
I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, though I could be wrong. But someone that cares to actually do the math should jump in. @DNA3000? π
What? 45 prowess to 35. That is 77%. So bleeds are effectively 77% of what they were, disregarding the randomness from 70% of the prowess in the bleeds from sp3 because if affects both.
250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.
Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.
I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
the largest issue with how youa re doing your math is you are using a bad methodology.
1) You are failing to take into account all other factors than the nerfs 2) Take 2 of the nerfs, the armor break and the prowess nerfs The armor break nerf only affects metal bleed immune, lasting 10 seconds (and I cannot remember if it stacks with the sp2). The prowess nerf primarily affects non metal champions because metal champions he can get much higher. Therefore it is not really reasonable to add these 2 nerfs together for a reduction in effectiveness, they have to be considered separately.
Wow lol I just posted details I observed like less prowess how can you "disagree" on that. Its just literally what happened.
I'm pretty sure those numbers are wrong, though I could be wrong. But someone that cares to actually do the math should jump in. @DNA3000? π
What? 45 prowess to 35. That is 77%. So bleeds are effectively 77% of what they were, disregarding the randomness from 70% of the prowess in the bleeds from sp3 because if affects both.
250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.
Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.
I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
the largest issue with how youa re doing your math is you are using a bad methodology.
1) You are failing to take into account all other factors than the nerfs 2) Take 2 of the nerfs, the armor break and the prowess nerfs The armor break nerf only affects metal bleed immune, lasting 10 seconds (and I cannot remember if it stacks with the sp2). The prowess nerf primarily affects non metal champions because metal champions he can get much higher. Therefore it is not really reasonable to add these 2 nerfs together for a reduction in effectiveness, they have to be considered separately.
I see. I agree. Him against #metal champions has not been changed meaningfully. I thought that was a given. I was talking about his general usefullness outside his favored matchup.
So I guess a better assessment would be, against non-metal opponents, his damage output was reduced to about 70% of what he originally was. Against metal champions, there was some reduction, with the armor break on immunity being reduced by approx. 40% and less prowess, but it doesnt mean much.
Outside of numbers, I don't think he's a weak champion. I think this change actually puts him on par to white magneto outside of #Metal fights, considering his sp3 still inflicts a massive bleed. He originally hit harder than white magneto even outside #Metal fights, which is no longer the case, which is not a bad thing.
Against metal champions, what made him deal ridiculous damage was always the fact that he can stack indefinite 20% Prowesses which didn't change.
Magneto is a top 5 mutant now. Say it with me everybody: Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant. Magneto is a top 5 mutant.
Did I forget to mention that Magneto is a top 5 mutant?
This is his final form - you're a real silly goose if you think he's not absolutely f$#%ing overpowered.
Good to see you here man. He's still overpowered but I thought kabam was just gonna change his armor break potency instead of the number of prowess stacks.
the minor nerf he got i'm okay with it. I already R5 my red magneto and will be a happy user once buff comes out
Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom Modok, Darkhawk Corvus HB Sentinel Warlock G2099 (can't miss her) Green Goblin Dragon Man Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav) Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected Wolverine Weapon X Cable
Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate
I can't wait to fight crossbones in 6.1 and degen him to death.
The best part is, even with the Biohazard node and being 90% bleed immune, if you have one point in coagulate, he's fully bleed immune.
This is his final form - you're a real silly goose if you think he's not absolutely f$#%ing overpowered.
Good to see you here man. He's still overpowered but I thought kabam was just gonna change his armor break potency instead of the number of prowess stacks.
I cannot wait to get my hands on buffed magneto man. My fingers wanna beat up Bucky βPunching Bagβ Barns in RoL. I have red mags as an R3 5* right now.
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250% Prowess -> 100% from 5 20% Prowess, 150% from 30 5% Prowesses.
Armor break from 900 to 523. 60% of 900 is 540.
I dont see any wrong math. It is head math but that's why I said approximately
Just waiting for the buff to drop
Now fights against these #metal champs will feel alot easier
Nova, Annihilus, IMIW, Mojo, Dr Doom
Modok, Darkhawk
Corvus
HB
Sentinel
Warlock
G2099 (can't miss her)
Green Goblin
Dragon Man
Xbones from act 6.1.5 (Magneto will help you alot to become Cav)
Ultron, OG Ultron (Magneto will help you in 5.4.6 to become Uncollected
Wolverine Weapon X
Cable
Thats just to list some of the toughest encounters. Thanks Magneto for the -70 Ability Accuracy Reduction and the -105% Regeneration rate
1) You are failing to take into account all other factors than the nerfs
2) Take 2 of the nerfs, the armor break and the prowess nerfs The armor break nerf only affects metal bleed immune, lasting 10 seconds (and I cannot remember if it stacks with the sp2). The prowess nerf primarily affects non metal champions because metal champions he can get much higher. Therefore it is not really reasonable to add these 2 nerfs together for a reduction in effectiveness, they have to be considered separately.
So I guess a better assessment would be, against non-metal opponents, his damage output was reduced to about 70% of what he originally was. Against metal champions, there was some reduction, with the armor break on immunity being reduced by approx. 40% and less prowess, but it doesnt mean much.
Outside of numbers, I don't think he's a weak champion. I think this change actually puts him on par to white magneto outside of #Metal fights, considering his sp3 still inflicts a massive bleed. He originally hit harder than white magneto even outside #Metal fights, which is no longer the case, which is not a bad thing.
Against metal champions, what made him deal ridiculous damage was always the fact that he can stack indefinite 20% Prowesses which didn't change.
This is his final form - you're a real silly goose if you think he's not absolutely f$#%ing overpowered.
Did I forget to mention that Magneto is a top 5 mutant?
Edit: thought it was 95% he's 90%.
He will be released at 9x what he originally was.
People who are unhappy with this amazing buff must truly struggle with enjoying the bright side of life.