RNG issue for 5* featured crystal

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  • LormifLormif Member Posts: 7,369 ★★★★★
    Thebg_J said:

    They can deny all they want. Those crystal champs have a % value..no other way around it.

    yes, they all have a percent value. they are just equal to each other.
  • Thicco_ModeThicco_Mode Member Posts: 8,852 ★★★★★
    Thebg_J said:

    They can deny all they want. Those crystal champs have a % value..no other way around it.

    correct!
  • VendemiaireVendemiaire Member Posts: 2,178 ★★★★★
    Entitlement. Feeling that the Universe should work in your favor when everything is all about entropy and chaos.
  • DjinDjin Member Posts: 1,962 ★★★★★
    edited September 2020
    You can get 33 Cyclops or 33 Red Guardian....both events have equal chances.
  • O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 156 ★★

    Lormif said:

    Arsoz said:

    Not a an issue its just rng you win some you lose some

    33 crystals, it cannot be RNG. I would believe if for such quantity I had pulled 20 champions from 24. But I got only 14 champs. It is ridiculous.
    it is rng. In order to prove an issue you need to query thousands of pulls not tens of pulls. Each crystal is its own odds, and the chance to pull something changes cumulatively but will never reach 100 or 0 %
    Really, RNG to pull 5 times the worst champ in crystal? RNG to pull a lot of champions 3 times, but some special, best champions (except winter soldier 😂) - 0 times ?
    How many crystals have you opened?
    That is the exact definition of RNG. Are you off your meds or something? Are you trolling to troll or are you missing brain cells?
    I have not said you a bad word, your comment is ugly. If you think that RNG means to get the same pull each time, probably you do not understand what it is. I cannot see the fair random in my openings so I can only suggest there is some issue in functionality.
    RNG means random occurrences. That means you can either dupe a champion or pull a new one. You could pull a desired champ multiple times in a row or pull a non desired champ multiple times in a row.

    Fact is, you don't know what it means. You believe that because you haven't pulled who you want, RNG is broken.

    Also, if you did pull who you wanted, you wouldn't be here posting that it's broken. It's only broken to you because you aren't getting what you want.
    You are right that if I pulled who I wanted I would not post it. From my side RNG is broken by several reasons:
    - I did not get many new champions for my account, only 4 ones (storm, black widow, cyclops, hood)
    - I did not get champions which are really good and will be useful for my account
    - other people in my alliance easily pulled Cap or Sorcerer supreme just from 3-5 crystals
    - it is just the same thing each opening. I open crystal and get the same champ. I have a lot of resources but I do not have new champions to rank up.

    In summary, all these things look very strange to me.
    So because you didn't get what you wanted, it's broken? Gotcha. Makes total sense for a crazy person.
    For now I just want new champions. Featured crystal is about new champions which are not added to usual crystal. But, according to new champions, I cannot get them. For such large amount of crystals there should be new champions. You say that I am unlucky. But how can this bad luck occur 33 times for more than 2 months?
    I see that something strange here.
    Ok, I will proceed opening those crystals untill they end. Probably I will be able to open 7-10 more crystals. But, generally, I think that nothing will change to my drop because it is just limited somehow to the champs I got long ago.
    It is ridiculous to open such big amount of crystals without any hope to get something new and useful. Bad luck, random, exception? OK, lets see what will be further.
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,078 ★★★★★

    Lormif said:

    Arsoz said:

    Not a an issue its just rng you win some you lose some

    33 crystals, it cannot be RNG. I would believe if for such quantity I had pulled 20 champions from 24. But I got only 14 champs. It is ridiculous.
    it is rng. In order to prove an issue you need to query thousands of pulls not tens of pulls. Each crystal is its own odds, and the chance to pull something changes cumulatively but will never reach 100 or 0 %
    Really, RNG to pull 5 times the worst champ in crystal? RNG to pull a lot of champions 3 times, but some special, best champions (except winter soldier 😂) - 0 times ?
    How many crystals have you opened?
    That is the exact definition of RNG. Are you off your meds or something? Are you trolling to troll or are you missing brain cells?
    I have not said you a bad word, your comment is ugly. If you think that RNG means to get the same pull each time, probably you do not understand what it is. I cannot see the fair random in my openings so I can only suggest there is some issue in functionality.
    RNG means random occurrences. That means you can either dupe a champion or pull a new one. You could pull a desired champ multiple times in a row or pull a non desired champ multiple times in a row.

    Fact is, you don't know what it means. You believe that because you haven't pulled who you want, RNG is broken.

    Also, if you did pull who you wanted, you wouldn't be here posting that it's broken. It's only broken to you because you aren't getting what you want.
    You are right that if I pulled who I wanted I would not post it. From my side RNG is broken by several reasons:
    - I did not get many new champions for my account, only 4 ones (storm, black widow, cyclops, hood)
    - I did not get champions which are really good and will be useful for my account
    - other people in my alliance easily pulled Cap or Sorcerer supreme just from 3-5 crystals
    - it is just the same thing each opening. I open crystal and get the same champ. I have a lot of resources but I do not have new champions to rank up.

    In summary, all these things look very strange to me.
    So because you didn't get what you wanted, it's broken? Gotcha. Makes total sense for a crazy person.
    For now I just want new champions. Featured crystal is about new champions which are not added to usual crystal. But, according to new champions, I cannot get them. For such large amount of crystals there should be new champions. You say that I am unlucky. But how can this bad luck occur 33 times for more than 2 months?
    I see that something strange here.
    Ok, I will proceed opening those crystals untill they end. Probably I will be able to open 7-10 more crystals. But, generally, I think that nothing will change to my drop because it is just limited somehow to the champs I got long ago.
    It is ridiculous to open such big amount of crystals without any hope to get something new and useful. Bad luck, random, exception? OK, lets see what will be further.
    I have way worse luck than you. There's also way worse luck out there than yours. You're wanting 1-2 champs from the featured pool. You're setting yourself up for failure since you want like 2 champs of 24. Your odds are way lower. Just open them and move on. Stop thinking RNG is broken. Again, you wouldn't be here saying RnG is broken if you got what you wanted from those crystals. You're only saying it's broken because you didn't get what you wanted. What if you pulled 6 Red Guardians? Is it broken then or is it working because you got exactly what you wanted?
  • shield456shield456 Member Posts: 1,980 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    Thebg_J said:

    They can deny all they want. Those crystal champs have a % value..no other way around it.

    Yep, they sure do:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqHRQdmjdrg

    Apparently that percentage is 100% chance for Hood, 0% chance for anything else. If you pulled any other champ, it is probably a bug.
    Oh man!!?
    Well my crystals were bugged I got a doom and voodoo
  • slackerslacker Member Posts: 777 ★★★★
    edited September 2020
    I think you should play other gacha games to how powerful RNG is, true pain, suffering and "Rate up is a lie"
  • O_Deadpool_OO_Deadpool_O Member Posts: 156 ★★

    Lormif said:

    Arsoz said:

    Not a an issue its just rng you win some you lose some

    33 crystals, it cannot be RNG. I would believe if for such quantity I had pulled 20 champions from 24. But I got only 14 champs. It is ridiculous.
    it is rng. In order to prove an issue you need to query thousands of pulls not tens of pulls. Each crystal is its own odds, and the chance to pull something changes cumulatively but will never reach 100 or 0 %
    Really, RNG to pull 5 times the worst champ in crystal? RNG to pull a lot of champions 3 times, but some special, best champions (except winter soldier 😂) - 0 times ?
    How many crystals have you opened?
    That is the exact definition of RNG. Are you off your meds or something? Are you trolling to troll or are you missing brain cells?
    I have not said you a bad word, your comment is ugly. If you think that RNG means to get the same pull each time, probably you do not understand what it is. I cannot see the fair random in my openings so I can only suggest there is some issue in functionality.
    RNG means random occurrences. That means you can either dupe a champion or pull a new one. You could pull a desired champ multiple times in a row or pull a non desired champ multiple times in a row.

    Fact is, you don't know what it means. You believe that because you haven't pulled who you want, RNG is broken.

    Also, if you did pull who you wanted, you wouldn't be here posting that it's broken. It's only broken to you because you aren't getting what you want.
    You are right that if I pulled who I wanted I would not post it. From my side RNG is broken by several reasons:
    - I did not get many new champions for my account, only 4 ones (storm, black widow, cyclops, hood)
    - I did not get champions which are really good and will be useful for my account
    - other people in my alliance easily pulled Cap or Sorcerer supreme just from 3-5 crystals
    - it is just the same thing each opening. I open crystal and get the same champ. I have a lot of resources but I do not have new champions to rank up.

    In summary, all these things look very strange to me.
    So because you didn't get what you wanted, it's broken? Gotcha. Makes total sense for a crazy person.
    For now I just want new champions. Featured crystal is about new champions which are not added to usual crystal. But, according to new champions, I cannot get them. For such large amount of crystals there should be new champions. You say that I am unlucky. But how can this bad luck occur 33 times for more than 2 months?
    I see that something strange here.
    Ok, I will proceed opening those crystals untill they end. Probably I will be able to open 7-10 more crystals. But, generally, I think that nothing will change to my drop because it is just limited somehow to the champs I got long ago.
    It is ridiculous to open such big amount of crystals without any hope to get something new and useful. Bad luck, random, exception? OK, lets see what will be further.
    I have way worse luck than you. There's also way worse luck out there than yours. You're wanting 1-2 champs from the featured pool. You're setting yourself up for failure since you want like 2 champs of 24. Your odds are way lower. Just open them and move on. Stop thinking RNG is broken. Again, you wouldn't be here saying RnG is broken if you got what you wanted from those crystals. You're only saying it's broken because you didn't get what you wanted. What if you pulled 6 Red Guardians? Is it broken then or is it working because you got exactly what you wanted?
    You are right here, I got a lot of dupes for good champs from this crystal. 6* drop is separate pain...
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,470 ★★★★★
    You have a 1 in 24 chance on *each pull* of getting a champ, and previous pulls do not impact this chance. So you can open 100 crystals and the chance of pulling, say, Red Guardian in the next Crystal would still be 1 in 24. Which means you have a 23 in 24 chance of not pulling him.

    Your sample size is way low to be statistically meaningful.
  • spiderknight616spiderknight616 Member Posts: 599 ★★★
    I pulled exactly one featured from the Side Quest and got Sorcerer Supreme. It's just RNG.
  • Wubbie075Wubbie075 Member Posts: 734 ★★★
    OP, another thing you're missing is that the distribution applies to everyone in the game opening the crystals, not just you. So when you say "well he got this good champ, but I got ****" that is the rng working, not failing.
  • Iron_Patriot_is_litIron_Patriot_is_lit Member Posts: 1,860 ★★★★★
    Conspiracists annoy me.
  • swmcswswmcsw Member Posts: 249 ★★
    Don't worry man I am right their with you. Around 35 features too still no caiw lol. I had some decent pulls but dang rng sucks lol
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    swmcsw said:

    Don't worry man I am right their with you. Around 35 features too still no caiw lol. I had some decent pulls but dang rng sucks lol

    Pulled and Duped him. SS Duped twice, same with Ultron, pulled and Duped Terrax, pretty much pulled everything but the one I want. I'm going for Pyramid X. No big mystery to it. Just RNG.
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,078 ★★★★★

    Does anyone still believe that RNG is in the game hahahaha come on guys we all know RNG is not in game.
    Dont consolation yourself

    Do you have proof otherwise? I'd like to see some solid evidence.
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