Venom hashtag and Variant 1 - way too hard for 2020

Well, hello there dear MCOC team! This morning it hit me - like a hit from a chair, from the Hulk... How come Venom is still a "#villian"? Since mid 90's Venom is more like an anti-hero. Yes, it depends from the host of the symbiote (for example Max Gorgon - clearly a villian and Deadpool - clearly an anti-hero) , but with the passing years Eddie Brock proved himslef to be a what we call - a "hero". Hell, Captain America even invited him to join the Avengers (check Venom #21). One more thing, Eddie Brock and respectively the Venom symbiote are one of the very few characters who knows who's behind the mask of Spider-man. Please, just do something and make Venom what he deserves to do - a Hero.

Now, let's talk about Variant 1 - in two words - too much effort for a what - 5 crystal? Rank 4 gem? Needs Nerf ASAP

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bloodyCain

Variant 1 rewards are outdated now.

When compare it to other Variants, it's indeed the hardest one with nodes favourable a lot on Defenders/AI.

Don't need to do it.

I still haven't done just cuz the rewards plus the efforts are not matched.

I don't wanna rank up my champs just to 100% Variant 1 as that is wasteful.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Venom is a villain. In this game.

Kostaaechuiek

Exactly - the rewards are lame, compared to the difficulty. IPO - Variant 5 is much more worthy of spending items, than Variant 1 - and for sure Variant 5 is less harder than Variant 1.

P.S. Venom IS a villian in this game, but they should change it.

Bonzodavid

The thing about characters in the comics that there is different timelines ans versions of the same character. And a lot of times the characters get "rebooted".
So venom is/was still a villian in a lot of comics since the 90s it just depends which comics you read

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SpideyFunko

asks for better rewards, then says nerf the content.

pick one

Mauled

Variant 1 came out over tuned, nobody denies that. Variant 1, too hard for 2018/19 would be correct.

Is it really content that you should prioritise in 2020? No, probably not. The rewards, however, are still good rewards, sure they could be bit juicier but if you're in a position to consider exploring V1 then it's likely that you've explored V2-5 and a lot of Act 6. Most players that are exploring Act 6 will likely have ranked up at least one 5/6* just for one fight or lane, certainly if they've worked through a lot pre-nerf, this is no different really.
Also, the rate at which we get rank up resources for 5* now means that it's not such a commitment to R5 a champion - I'm sitting on 10 T5B currently and I know that there are a lot of players far more flush with resources than I am.

Kostaaechuiek

The thing about characters in the comics that there is different timelines ans versions of the same character. And a lot of times the characters get "rebooted".
So venom is/was still a villian in a lot of comics since the 90s it just depends which comics you read

Couldn't disagree with you more, mate. But, since you mentioned "timelines" and stuff, in the main timilne of Marvel comics - Earth-616, Eddie Brock has had proven himself quite the hero. Period

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Kostaaechuiek

Play the new variant to find out why Venom is a villian in the game.

I have played Variant 5 and sorry, but i can't see your point

Kostaaechuiek

I'm about to run through act 6.4 and i have played all the Variants and if you guys are trying to tell me that Variant 1 is easy peasy lemon squeezy then i'm probably some ****

KDoggg2017

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Mauled

I'm about to run through act 6.4 and i have played all the Variants and if you guys are trying to tell me that Variant 1 is easy peasy lemon squeezy then i'm probably some ****

Nobody is saying it's easy, it is by far the most restrictive Variant, there's a reason why most YouTubers put V1 exploration right at the bottom of their progression guides. The difference now though is that if you're in a Map 6+ alliance, playing Platinum war then the rate you're getting resources should somewhat offset the difficulty because you can target your rank ups to Variant without being so concerned at making a niche rank up as you would have two years ago.

I was in a P2 alliance running Map 5 only and I was still getting enough resources on a monthly basis to take a champion from R1-5 every month. That's probably similar to a P4 alliance running Map6 and obviously considerably less than those in Map7/higher tier war alliances than I. It makes having to rank up X for one quest line less of an issue.

Panchulon21

I'm about to run through act 6.4 and i have played all the Variants and if you guys are trying to tell me that Variant 1 is easy peasy lemon squeezy then i'm probably some ****

Well since you just said it. I won’t need to.

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SpideyFunko

Play the new variant to find out why Venom is a villian in the game.
I have played Variant 5 and sorry, but i can't see your point
Did you read the dialogue? or skipped it?

I’d say 90% of the playerbase doesn’t read the dialogue.

jonzer

i havent even really tried to do it yet. that magik is stupid annoying

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Kostaaechuiek

Play the new variant to find out why Venom is a villian in the game.
I have played Variant 5 and sorry, but i can't see your point
Did you read the dialogue? or skipped it?
I’d say 90% of the playerbase doesn’t read the dialogue.
That's ok but 90% also don't question why someone is a villain or a hero

You clearly does not read comic books, mate. And, yes - since this is mine disccusion, i've read all the dialogue.

Kostaaechuiek

And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.

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Kostaaechuiek

And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.
Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.

Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.

Magrailothos

The thing about characters in the comics that there is different timelines ans versions of the same character. And a lot of times the characters get "rebooted".
So venom is/was still a villian in a lot of comics since the 90s it just depends which comics you read
Couldn't disagree with you more, mate. But, since you mentioned "timelines" and stuff, in the main timilne of Marvel comics - Earth-616, Eddie Brock has had proven himself quite the hero. Period

You're missing the point about the set-up of this game: The version of Venom in the game, at the time when he was plucked out of the main Marvel timestream, was a Villain. If he'd been pulled out of the timestream at a different point, he could have been a hero. Look at Cyclops and Magneto: both have 'hero' and 'villain' versions, and both are correct.

You're also missing the point about tags: These are attributed partly for descriptive purposes; but also for game balance. Being a Villain can be an advantage (on a Villainy node, for example) or a disadvantage (fighting Blade or Ghost Rider).

Monk1

And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.
Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.

You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs

Kostaaechuiek

The thing about characters in the comics that there is different timelines ans versions of the same character. And a lot of times the characters get "rebooted".
So venom is/was still a villian in a lot of comics since the 90s it just depends which comics you read
Couldn't disagree with you more, mate. But, since you mentioned "timelines" and stuff, in the main timilne of Marvel comics - Earth-616, Eddie Brock has had proven himself quite the hero. Period
You're missing the point about the set-up of this game: The version of Venom in the game, at the time when he was plucked out of the main Marvel timestream, was a Villain. If he'd been pulled out of the timestream at a different point, he could have been a hero. Look at Cyclops and Magneto: both have 'hero' and 'villain' versions, and both are correct.

You're also missing the point about tags: These are attributed partly for descriptive purposes; but also for game balance. Being a Villain can be an advantage (on a Villainy node, for example) or a disadvantage (fighting Blade or Ghost Rider).

Thank you, mate! This is the first refuting comment in this discussion which is not rude.

Kostaaechuiek

And, IPO, Variant 1 needs nerf - either remove the champions requirments, or just buff the rewards, or you can just cut the chapters to 2, instead of 3 quests.
Another option - Learn to play in order to get good in this game. Protest is not a legitimate way to clear content in a game.
Guess who don't like to read all the discussion!? You just missed the part where i've said that i'm about to hit 6.4 - probably, i'm just lucky to complete 6.1; 6.2 and 6.3 or what? BTW, i'm not protesting, Variant 1 is just stupidly hard. Period.
You are quoting 6.4 (in the newly nerf’d baby version) as a stick of progress....?

V1 is hard but for those of us that battled through it 100% on release the rewards at the time were worthwhile. Leave it alone and one day you can come back to it when have c.30 r5 champs

For a F2P player like me, who does not spend all his nights grinding the arena - Act 6.4 is kind of a big deal. I don't want you, guys to agree with me. All i'm saying is that V1 is not worth the effort in 2020, therefore it needs some changes.