Why do people think that Ice Man is "god tier"??
NormanBJJ
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I'm very curious, why do people consider him god tier? The hype needs to die.
Triple immunities: Doesnt matter if you don't get hit, with the exception of Abominations passive poison
Coldsnap can stop evade: SO can Archangel, and other defensive ability accuracy reduction champs
He can tank and L3: So can the Magnetos, does that make them god tier??
Triple immunities: Doesnt matter if you don't get hit, with the exception of Abominations passive poison
Coldsnap can stop evade: SO can Archangel, and other defensive ability accuracy reduction champs
He can tank and L3: So can the Magnetos, does that make them god tier??
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Damage is not decent when you compare him to champs like Archangel, X-23 or Gwenpool bro..... And his ice armor isn't active 100% of the time like Magneto's is
I read that poll, and the Iceman hype needs to die, he is not the only champ that can counter evade, and he is not the only champ that can tank an l3....
His damage isn't good compared to other champs either
Magneto can tank multiple l3's from Hyperion, unlike Iceman which requires the ice armor. Triple immunity does NOT matter unless you get hit or run suicides, Evade doesn't matter unless they are stun immune, Crossbones can stop evade right from the beginning with furies
If you had him you would understand the hype. Best all round champ in the game
When you combine all of those together though it makes him a great champ.
You can debate who is better Archangel or Iceman, but it would be somewhat silly to debate that he doesn't have abilities that make him far better than other champs.
Immunity is good against nodes with Bleed or Poison.
Ice Armor is active all the time as long as you play well. So does the coldsnap against champions with Evade.
Also he doens't rely on debuffs to have good damage
Evade nullification does matter if they have maxed limber or you don't wanna take a lot of parry damage in longer fights.
No, Crossbones doesn't, he can easily still get evaded even with 5 furies, and I don't think he reduces it all the way down 100% either.
Ice armor shatters, Magneto can tanks l3's during the entire fight
Saying this champion can also do this and that champion can also do that, would be an argument as to why part of what he can do isn't unique as others can do it. However, if you add up everything useful that iceman can do you won't find another champ that can do all these things too which is why he is the best all round champ and makes him God Tier
Iceman can take more 3rd specials than Magneto unless there have been reductions to the approximately 20% that it is limited to when Magneto is duped. Your argument ignores completely the vulnerabilities that still exist with Magneto (vulnerable to stun, vulnerable to bleed, vulnerable to poison).
I've been told that he has 22% defensive ability reduction with 5 furies, not 100% sure if thats true, but if it is true, thats over 100% reduction, I don't see how anyone can evade
And then comes back 12 seconds later..
Is not a flat 22%. So is not 22 + 22 + 22...
Even with 100 furys, there would still be a chance for the enemy to evade
Its multiplicative not additive. (0.22^5) * 100 = ability reduction.
running suicides with ArchAngel in AQ, he will die after a few matches without using Pots.
Iceman won't. ... and iceman can tank sp3's losing next to no health. and can handle evade.
Then try to beat a poison/bleed node on act 5 with a non-immune champ
Based on your comments and lack of insight on champs capabilities and what makes them so great makes me doubt you play at the level of a "god." I feel you may need to get your hands on this champ and get him awakened asap and get a better understanding of him.
and Magneto sucks in almost every other area.