War Joining Restriction

Incredible_ansh2Incredible_ansh2 Member Posts: 19 ★
in Suggestions and Requests
People don't join war in defense but for alliance they join attack phase which make difficult to win for other alliance.
So we need to put restriction over there so that there could fair war in both defense and attack phase.

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  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,863 Guardian
    Incorrect. Not placing some Defenders results in other side getting FULL ATTACK BONUS (all 3x Bonus) just for stepping past an empty (numbered) node, without having to even fight since there is no defender there.

    So actually they are giving your alliance better chance to win by them missing some people placing defenders for you to fight (or in this case, not have to fight).
    *No risk of losing champ health or potentially losing attack bonus points if you got KO there, just make sure to travel past empty nodes/paths.
    *Side with fewer defenders will also have lower Diversity points than if placed full defense with more diversity.
  • Incredible_ansh2Incredible_ansh2 Member Posts: 19 ★
    SummonerNR said:

    Incorrect. Not placing some Defenders results in other side getting FULL ATTACK BONUS (all 3x Bonus) just for stepping past an empty (numbered) node, without having to even fight since there is no defender there.

    So actually they are giving your alliance better chance to win by them missing some people placing defenders for you to fight (or in this case, not have to fight).
    *No risk of losing champ health or potentially losing attack bonus points if you got KO there, just make sure to travel past empty nodes/paths.
    *Side with fewer defenders will also have lower Diversity points than if placed full defense with more diversity.

    yes... I know that but still some alliance do this to have attack bonus.. becoz in our alliance we used to cover most all nodes n putting our defenders.
    they win by attack bonus. even with 90% above exploration we loose just becoz of attack bonus not having defenders to fight in it lol..
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,863 Guardian
    Incredible_ansh2 said:

    SummonerNR said:

    Incorrect. Not placing some Defenders results in other side getting FULL ATTACK BONUS (all 3x Bonus) just for stepping past an empty (numbered) node, without having to even fight since there is no defender there.

    So actually they are giving your alliance better chance to win by them missing some people placing defenders for you to fight (or in this case, not have to fight).
    *No risk of losing champ health or potentially losing attack bonus points if you got KO there, just make sure to travel past empty nodes/paths.
    *Side with fewer defenders will also have lower Diversity points than if placed full defense with more diversity.

    yes... I know that but still some alliance do this to have attack bonus.. becoz in our alliance we used to cover most all nodes n putting our defenders.
    they win by attack bonus. even with 90% above exploration we loose just becoz of attack bonus not having defenders to fight in it lol..
    No, I don’t think you’re getting it right.
    If your opponent does not place some defenders, that should be Free (Full 3x Attack Bonus) for you just by you traveling thru those extra Empty nodes.

    If your opponents believe that not placing some defenders will somehow help them, they are mistaken. And net result is just giving your team better chance of winning.
  • Incredible_ansh2Incredible_ansh2 Member Posts: 19 ★
    SummonerNR said:

    Incredible_ansh2 said:

    SummonerNR said:

    Incorrect. Not placing some Defenders results in other side getting FULL ATTACK BONUS (all 3x Bonus) just for stepping past an empty (numbered) node, without having to even fight since there is no defender there.

    So actually they are giving your alliance better chance to win by them missing some people placing defenders for you to fight (or in this case, not have to fight).
    *No risk of losing champ health or potentially losing attack bonus points if you got KO there, just make sure to travel past empty nodes/paths.
    *Side with fewer defenders will also have lower Diversity points than if placed full defense with more diversity.

    yes... I know that but still some alliance do this to have attack bonus.. becoz in our alliance we used to cover most all nodes n putting our defenders.
    they win by attack bonus. even with 90% above exploration we loose just becoz of attack bonus not having defenders to fight in it lol..
    No, I don’t think you’re getting it right.
    If your opponent does not place some defenders, that should be Free (Full 3x Attack Bonus) for you just by you traveling thru those extra Empty nodes.

    If your opponents believe that not placing some defenders will somehow help them, they are mistaken. And net result is just giving your team better chance of winning.
    okay then I'll calculate then again..
  • WOLF_LINKWOLF_LINK Member Posts: 1,376 ★★★★
    Correct, if they don‘t place Defenders, you just get the maximum Bonus for free! If you still explore the ways, if not it‘s your own fault for leaving those free points + exploration points laying there (and that should result in a Loose then).
  • Incredible_ansh2Incredible_ansh2 Member Posts: 19 ★
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    WOLF_LINK said:

    Correct, if they don‘t place Defenders, you just get the maximum Bonus for free! If you still explore the ways, if not it‘s your own fault for leaving those free points + exploration points laying there (and that should result in a Loose then).

    we explore both bg 100% before end of war.. but we loose somehow.. I'll again calculate then.. see where we are lacking..
  • SummonerNRSummonerNR Member, Guardian Posts: 12,863 Guardian
    You could still lose even if 100%.
    If your side died more times on attack that other side did, and you maybe also had less diversity that other side (even though you placed more defenders, you might have placed lot more duplicate/same champs within a BG).

    Those point differences might be enough to make up for other side not fully exploring 100%.

    Note, you can calculate Attack Bonus difference while war going on by comparing Defender Kills, and then subtracting any amount of fights (that were above 3 attempts) before getting a particular defender down. Easy to see on your Defense map (from opponent's attack), but harder to know on your own Attack side unless your teammates are telling you or you can see nodes being fought in real-time.
  • Incredible_ansh2Incredible_ansh2 Member Posts: 19 ★
    SummonerNR said:

    You could still lose even if 100%.
    If your side died more times on attack that other side did, and you maybe also had less diversity that other side (even though you placed more defenders, you might have placed lot more duplicate/same champs within a BG).

    Those point differences might be enough to make up for other side not fully exploring 100%.

    Note, you can calculate Attack Bonus difference while war going on by comparing Defender Kills, and then subtracting any amount of fights (that were above 3 attempts) before getting a particular defender down. Easy to see on your Defense map (from opponent's attack), but harder to know on your own Attack side unless your teammates are telling you or you can see nodes being fought in real-time.

    thanx for your help dude.. appreciate it.. will surely check this during war.. and keep these things in mind.. it really helped.. I was so frustrated that was going to uninstall.. :smiley: but will continue..
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