Healblock on all sidequests are BS

The healblock on recursion sidequests prejudice players.

Large investment of around 10k units is used to unlock suicide masteries with willpower etc.

Having this investment negated in every avenue of Octobers sidequest seems a deliberate ploy to prejudice players and force more unit spend through mastery reworks.

One or two paths would be acceptable but every path at every stage appears to be an exploitation

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Sanitised

Yep. Although I didn't spend any units on suicides. I used 160 units for the whole invasion thingy and opened a 6* man thing....

AzKicker316

Speak for yourself. I had no mastery changes and no units used and I 100% epic and legendary side quests, with full suicides. Honestly, a team of 3 should be able to beat 3 fights and the boss without the need for healing, otherwise your just playing a level above what your roster may be able to handle, imo.

xNig

You knew what you were getting into when you ran suicides, not to mention there are dual immune champs that won’t need to heal when running suicides.

silentag

Just based on the side quest theme itself, the added heal block makes sense to me. plus the fact that every lane has some form of DOT added to the fights, that gives it a bit of an extra challenge that normally isn’t there, especially when you have immune champs that could wp heal off of the debuff. As others will likely indicate, if you are finding yourself spending a ton of units/items on the side quest, take stock and don’t rush in and make sure that it’s a challenge your account is up to. To me, having the ability to restart that quest as often as I wanted kept me from needing to use items.

Crazy_Jamie

This is a strange complaint. Most champions that work well with suicides will work equally well in this side quest with heal block. Any double immune champ, ghost, BWCV, even OR given the damage reduction. There’s a small number of fights per path and the PI of the fights is relatively low, so this really shouldn’t be an issue if you have the roster and skill to complete the content.

Slayton_6

You knew what you were getting into when you ran suicides, not to mention there are dual immune champs that won’t need to heal when running suicides.

You missing the point here, every path requires more than just a dual immunity to disrupt willpower (even if not running suicides).

I've run suicides for quite some time and have known what I was getting into and it wasnt this.

In what other mode of gameplay is this prejudiced in every chapter and every path? I have completed act 6 and there is varied paths not same hurdle at every corner.

AzKicker316

You knew what you were getting into when you ran suicides, not to mention there are dual immune champs that won’t need to heal when running suicides.
In what other mode of gameplay is this prejudiced in every chapter and every path? I have completed act 6 and there is varied paths not same hurdle at every corner.

Act 6 has many more opponents per path. This is only 3 per path plus a boss! With 3 attackers, this isn't difficult, even with heal block. It all comes down to whether you have the right roster for the level you choose to play.

BigPoppaCBONE

If this is such a big deal what do you do everywhere else? It's not like heal block, heal reverse, and heal prevention aren't common as dirt. Are you trying to force square pegs into every hole and getting mad that they don't fit everywhere all the time? Why aren't you reading the paths and using immune champs for that matter?

Sw0rdMaster

The healblock on recursion sidequests prejudice players.

Large investment of around 10k units is used to unlock suicide masteries with willpower etc.

Having this investment negated in every avenue of Octobers sidequest seems a deliberate ploy to prejudice players and force more unit spend through mastery reworks.

One or two paths would be acceptable but every path at every stage appears to be an exploitation

Running full suicides and no issues in completing it without spending units. And i don't even consider myself as a good player compared to others.

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Giuliameij

I run suicides and the health you lose matters very very little in this quest. There are a bunch of suicide friendly champs that hardly take any damage from suicides.
I still find it annoying. But it is far from needed to switch masteries for this event, since there are only 4 fights per path.

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Slayton_6

Guys are missing the point I'm nearly 100% legendary just a few more paths with Champion boss but I think that the challenge is BS.

It is definitely easier with suicide off than on.

Content should produce varied challenges in different chapters not the same regurgitated idea.

Healblock theme 5 chapter each with 6 paths all of which same global node, its lazy and whether its completed or not definitely prejudices suicides deliberately.

Aquaflash

I don’t think it’s as much about suicides or suicide friendly champs as much as it is about having an extremely diverse roster. This is not a challenge of skill in the least. It’s a challenge of who has played the game long enough or spent enough money on the game to have champs immune to all of these DOT debuffs. I don’t particularly like this type of event in the game, but I’m not angry about it either. It just seems unnecessary to create an event that has an obvious bias toward big spenders and long time players. There is no enjoyment in an event like this for newer players.

Sarvanga1_

It is a test that you have ghost or not or you
have all the immune champs except ghost.
If you don't you will have problem exploring it 100%.

Odachi

I agree it was annoying to have the heal block but if you invest in suicides you need to invest in good suicide friendly champs to go with it. Warlock was amazing at clearing the lanes with no penalty and you take a 2man team for the boss or just 1 with synergy or warlock again.

I suppose the counter to the healblock is 0 energy cost so you could restart as many times as you like

Normax_X

i just used Claire nick and warlock everywhere, running suicides but its just 4 fights

allinashes

The heal block was annoying since I like to use Colossus and run suicides, but I changed up my squad and ran Guilly2099/Warlock and another champ for some paths. The power gain they get from synergy is no joke.

For the shock and coldsnap paths, I would often use the poison immunity boost with Colossus/Doom/Thing to keep my health up. The unstoppable was easy enough to play around.

I realize it was easier because I could pull any immunity off the shelf, but that's where the game is. You either need really good skilz or the right counter for a lot of content.

Palanthrax

It was a sucky event for suicide users, but I refused to switch. I used BWCV and Ghost for the whole thing and got it done without the need for items.

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Hieitaku

Anyone choosing to unlock and put on suicide masteries should be aware of the various downsides.

On the bright side, it could have been worse. What if it was Kinetic Transference or Mighty Dash?

Even so, the frustration from having to fight through Heal Block global is valid. I'm on full suicides and experienced some difficulty in doing fights in the side event where Ghost isn't effective. In any case, I just farmed a good amount of potions, adjusted my team and playstyle, used a few L1 revives from the 22hr events, and got it done.

Mauled

Without healblock these debuffs are initially so small that you’re going to net gain in Hp unless you’re really aggressive. There’s a few 6.4 lanes in them and you can pretty much ignore it until you get over 5 debuffs on you as long as you have willpower

MaxGaming

I dont find it that difficult if you rely on your heal every fight uts is more that the heal is carrying you so what should be the target is to not get hit, immunity, and defeating the opponents and if you want to avoid the extra damage take off suicides for a bit and who says you have to do the quest.

Masterpuff

It was annoying but doable. If you run suicides you probably have Omega Red or Ghost, both of whom can do a great deal in the quest.

Epistriatus

NF> Parry (not necessary) > heavy > get rid of the heal block. NF ain’t immune to a lot of debuffs, but he can deal lot of damage + he’s fun to use, at least imo.

FiiNCH

The heal block was my biggest gripe but I got around it. I used a combination of OR, BWCV, Warlock and a 4* ghost to clear it all

Moot4Life

The heal block was my biggest gripe but I got around it. I used a combination of OR, BWCV, Warlock and a 4* ghost to clear it all

i donut even have 3* version

FiiNCH

The heal block was my biggest gripe but I got around it. I used a combination of OR, BWCV, Warlock and a 4* ghost to clear it all
i donut even have 3* version

I feel your pain - I’ve been after her for years as a 5*!

Demonzfyre

I feel like prejudice is the word of the day after reading this post. What's the point in Kabam even trying to put out content that you have to plan your roster to take it on. They just need to stop with the content and just give us the rewards.

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Deacon

although i went through it itemless i agree with the heal block sentiment. on one or two paths sure but the entire quest was a bit much. it wasn't difficult. it was just kinda cheesy to add that global heal block.