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  • GardenerGardener Member Posts: 1,601 ★★★
    Ya Thronebraker is supposed to be the endgame thronebreakers are the people who've beaten the Abyss, 100% act 6 and have a rank 3 6*.Were actually lucky because kabam miike wanted getting thronebreaker to be harder
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  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,073 ★★★★★

    ImGodMF said:

    Glad to see the usual suspects aren't happy with free stuff.

    Except that it's not free...people have had to clear some specific content, maybe pay money to get some of the rare rankup stuff and rank up champs in order to reach the point where they have access to TB calender and they have all the right to complain if they feel that the perks that come with the title aren't upto the mark
    You do not have the right to complain if you jump in to specific content or rankups for thronebreaker without forst discovering what the rewards are.
    Yea right...because whatever the company throws at us has to be accepted with closed eyes...if I have put in effort to reach a specific level which has some perks alongside that level,I can complain about the said perks if I don't feel them to be on par with my expectations..coming to the calender the t2a and t5b frags are great...but a measly 100 units,5% t5cc and UC shard crystals are beyond laughable..now u can be happy with picking up scraps thrown down by kabam but I am not and I shall complain
    Sometimes yes you should just accept what's given to you. The calendar isn't the sole place for anything that's on there. Calendars aren't supposed to replace going and earning resources. Calendars exist to give a little extra for playing the game.

    You'll forever complain about "perks" because you think Kabam should be giving you everything instead of actually earning it. I also bet that if it was a 10% T5CC crystal you'd be disappointed it wasn't a selector version or that it should be 25%. People like you and many others in this thread will never, ever be happy with anything that's out out because you think Kabam should be loading rewards so you can do less.
    And now u are doing what u do best...putting words in my mouth..where did I say that I want a 25% crystal..I would be happy with a 10% in the present state of the game..this is the problem with people like u who just don't think that kabam can do any wrong...just because I am complaining for the lack of rewards doesn't mean that I think that they should be handed out...the company is making us work for that calender and it should reflect the work that is being put into reaching the stage where u unlock that calender
    And yes it is not free(replying to the other quote of urs) and unless u give me an argument rather than no just no,please keep ur holier than thou words to urself
    Kabam isn't making you do anything. You don't have to become TB. You have a choice to do it or don't do it.

    There are many components to the title and the calendar is just part of it. People like you over value everything. You think that everything you do, Kabam owes you more for it. The point stands that the calendar isn't supposed to be the sole source of these resources, but people like you seen to think that's what happens when they buff something. There are plenty of other places now to get T5CC.

    It's absolutely free. I didn't pay for the TB title and neither did you. But again, people like you will always try to say it's not because you are trying to find more reasons to push onto Kabam to change the calendar.
    Yes u pay for the title..u pay for it by either doing the longest quests in the game or pay to get the rarest resource in the game which would give u access to getting that r3 which would get u to the next level.. and yet nowhere did I mention that kabam owes me for it which u are so religiously repeating like a broken record but at the same time kabam should reward me for the time and effort
    And again along with the below average amount of t5cc, the pathetic amount of gold,units and UC crystal shards copy pasted from the lower calenders doesn't justify the requirements that they have put out to get the title
    You realize you have no idea what earning something means and paying for it. A good percentage of people who got the title from day 1, already had an R3. Many of them for a very long time. No one knew that title was coming before they took champs to R3. They just did the content and earned the resources. They didn't pay for the title, they got it through earning resources from completing content.

    My R3 came from the T5CC I got from my run through Abyss. I had that T5CC way before the TB title was announced. I didn't pay for the title. No one pays for it..

    Paying for it means I go to the store, select the title and purchase it. Earning resources through content, isn't paying for it. You are trying to argue the whole "time is money" bit that never works either.

    The calendar is free.
  • TrashPanda12TrashPanda12 Member Posts: 531 ★★★
    Stop crying. It could've been worse and is much better than the cav calender. Oh yeah, and it's free
  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★

    You've not replied to me at all so far. Make a very clear, meaningful reason as to why, logging into the game - and not even clicking claim, should entitle someone to the same about of T5CC as you get from Solo objective and 100% EQ. How you can earn more from logging in, than 100% completing an entire path of Act 6.

    Act 6.1
    25% TCC - 4.1% per 100%
    1 T5B - 7500 per 100%
    64k T2A - 10.6k per 100%
    540 Units - 90 per 100%

    30 Days Calendar
    5% T5CC = 1 Path 100% + Completion of a second path.
    18K T5B = 2 Paths 100% + 0.4 of a third path.
    36K T2A = 1 Path 100% + 0.8 of a second path.
    100 units = 1 Path = completion of a second path.

    Yes, thats averaging out all rewards consolidated from 100% and dividing them between each path, and it doesnt take into consideration the crystal shards. Yes, the calendar could be game breaking, but its not. You dont need to ask for more when you, in one month on average earn more than you would 100% a path in Act 6 - and all you need to do is log in and collect them for free.

    Well since u are so eager to get a reply then let's do this..
    Act 6 rewards were ridiculed from the day they were announced especially the t5cc being rewarded and that was when act 6 was released months back..the game has moved forward since then..so I don't see why the reward expectations should remain the same even after months
    Coming to the EQ...the monthly EQ is Cavalier not throne breaker..comparing the rewards of a lower tier EQ to the next progression level is in no way logical..thats like comparing UC rewards to cav calender..and if the calender of the highest progression level is not giving us enough t5cc as compared to a lower tier progression then why should that be normal??
    The full t2a has been a part of cav calender for a long time now and while u are comparing the t2a with the path rewards for act 6,u so conveniently skip through the completion rewards which increases the t2a per path because act 6 exploration is not the criteria for throne breaker rather it's act 6 completion
    Now coming to the units...I can get more units than the calender by autofighting through normal EQ..so I guess going by your logic,the unit count should be increased throughout the calenders of various tiers
    Now coming to kya expectations...nowhere have i demanded a ridiculous increase to rewards but rather the calender rewards being scaled to the progression level...just increase the paltry rewards being offered to a slightly more respectable amount..in no way is 5% more t5cc,200-300 more units,slightly more gold and something to replace UC shards is asking for a lot or being entitled
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  • ImGodMFImGodMF Member Posts: 459 ★★★
    qartweli said:

    Lot of people argumented this calendar being free and nobody should complain

    I would like to adress this subject


    This calendar is absolutely not free and u get it only after acomplishing pretty huge work which cant be done without extraordinary time and item spending. What is the itemsource...that can vary but nobody gives that to u for free.

    Thats why monthly gain should be in correlation with the effort one needs to get there

    Its all natural progression dude. I had 3 abyss paths done, 6.4 complete and 6r3 corvus before Thronebreaker was mentioned. Thats sensible playing. If you're doing all this content and these rankups strictly for ThroneBreaker title, you really should have waited to see the rewards.
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  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★
    edited November 2020

    ImGodMF said:

    Glad to see the usual suspects aren't happy with free stuff.

    Except that it's not free...people have had to clear some specific content, maybe pay money to get some of the rare rankup stuff and rank up champs in order to reach the point where they have access to TB calender and they have all the right to complain if they feel that the perks that come with the title aren't upto the mark
    You do not have the right to complain if you jump in to specific content or rankups for thronebreaker without forst discovering what the rewards are.
    Yea right...because whatever the company throws at us has to be accepted with closed eyes...if I have put in effort to reach a specific level which has some perks alongside that level,I can complain about the said perks if I don't feel them to be on par with my expectations..coming to the calender the t2a and t5b frags are great...but a measly 100 units,5% t5cc and UC shard crystals are beyond laughable..now u can be happy with picking up scraps thrown down by kabam but I am not and I shall complain
    Sometimes yes you should just accept what's given to you. The calendar isn't the sole place for anything that's on there. Calendars aren't supposed to replace going and earning resources. Calendars exist to give a little extra for playing the game.

    You'll forever complain about "perks" because you think Kabam should be giving you everything instead of actually earning it. I also bet that if it was a 10% T5CC crystal you'd be disappointed it wasn't a selector version or that it should be 25%. People like you and many others in this thread will never, ever be happy with anything that's out out because you think Kabam should be loading rewards so you can do less.
    And now u are doing what u do best...putting words in my mouth..where did I say that I want a 25% crystal..I would be happy with a 10% in the present state of the game..this is the problem with people like u who just don't think that kabam can do any wrong...just because I am complaining for the lack of rewards doesn't mean that I think that they should be handed out...the company is making us work for that calender and it should reflect the work that is being put into reaching the stage where u unlock that calender
    And yes it is not free(replying to the other quote of urs) and unless u give me an argument rather than no just no,please keep ur holier than thou words to urself
    Kabam isn't making you do anything. You don't have to become TB. You have a choice to do it or don't do it.

    There are many components to the title and the calendar is just part of it. People like you over value everything. You think that everything you do, Kabam owes you more for it. The point stands that the calendar isn't supposed to be the sole source of these resources, but people like you seen to think that's what happens when they buff something. There are plenty of other places now to get T5CC.

    It's absolutely free. I didn't pay for the TB title and neither did you. But again, people like you will always try to say it's not because you are trying to find more reasons to push onto Kabam to change the calendar.
    Yes u pay for the title..u pay for it by either doing the longest quests in the game or pay to get the rarest resource in the game which would give u access to getting that r3 which would get u to the next level.. and yet nowhere did I mention that kabam owes me for it which u are so religiously repeating like a broken record but at the same time kabam should reward me for the time and effort
    And again along with the below average amount of t5cc, the pathetic amount of gold,units and UC crystal shards copy pasted from the lower calenders doesn't justify the requirements that they have put out to get the title
    You realize you have no idea what earning something means and paying for it. A good percentage of people who got the title from day 1, already had an R3. Many of them for a very long time. No one knew that title was coming before they took champs to R3. They just did the content and earned the resources. They didn't pay for the title, they got it through earning resources from completing content.

    My R3 came from the T5CC I got from my run through Abyss. I had that T5CC way before the TB title was announced. I didn't pay for the title. No one pays for it..

    Paying for it means I go to the store, select the title and purchase it. Earning resources through content, isn't paying for it. You are trying to argue the whole "time is money" bit that never works either.

    The calendar is free.
    I knew that since u have no logical explanation for the other stuff in the calender..u would be stuck to the t5cc like a baby sucking to a teat
    I have invested time and effort into the game and the company should reward me for the effort I have put into achieving the said title and regardless of how many times u iterate that its free stuff,the simple fact is that it's not because I get this calender after going through the hoops of clearing the content and getting the right rng in order to progress in the game and if I get the same units,gold and useless crystals as someone who has been playing the game for a few months at best then I have every right to not be happy with it

    You've not replied to me at all so far. Make a very clear, meaningful reason as to why, logging into the game - and not even clicking claim, should entitle someone to the same about of T5CC as you get from Solo objective and 100% EQ. How you can earn more from logging in, than 100% completing an entire path of Act 6.

    Act 6.1
    25% TCC - 4.1% per 100%
    1 T5B - 7500 per 100%
    64k T2A - 10.6k per 100%
    540 Units - 90 per 100%

    30 Days Calendar
    5% T5CC = 1 Path 100% + Completion of a second path.
    18K T5B = 2 Paths 100% + 0.4 of a third path.
    36K T2A = 1 Path 100% + 0.8 of a second path.
    100 units = 1 Path = completion of a second path.

    Yes, thats averaging out all rewards consolidated from 100% and dividing them between each path, and it doesnt take into consideration the crystal shards. Yes, the calendar could be game breaking, but its not. You dont need to ask for more when you, in one month on average earn more than you would 100% a path in Act 6 - and all you need to do is log in and collect them for free.

    Well since u are so eager to get a reply then let's do this..
    Act 6 rewards were ridiculed from the day they were announced especially the t5cc being rewarded and that was when act 6 was released months back..the game has moved forward since then..so I don't see why the reward expectations should remain the same even after months
    Coming to the EQ...the monthly EQ is Cavalier not throne breaker..comparing the rewards of a lower tier EQ to the next progression level is in no way logical..thats like comparing UC rewards to cav calender..and if the calender of the highest progression level is not giving us enough t5cc as compared to a lower tier progression then why should that be normal??
    The full t2a has been a part of cav calender for a long time now and while u are comparing the t2a with the path rewards for act 6,u so conveniently skip through the completion rewards which increases the t2a per path because act 6 exploration is not the criteria for throne breaker rather it's act 6 completion
    Now coming to the units...I can get more units than the calender by autofighting through normal EQ..so I guess going by your logic,the unit count should be increased throughout the calenders of various tiers
    Now coming to kya expectations...nowhere have i demanded a ridiculous increase to rewards but rather the calender rewards being scaled to the progression level...just increase the paltry rewards being offered to a slightly more respectable amount..in no way is 5% more t5cc,200-300 more units,slightly more gold and something to replace UC shards is asking for a lot or being entitled
    Act 6 - All you need to gain Thronebreaker is Act 6 & an R3. Now.. if we were talking Book 2 calendar, then yes - rewards should reflect that. You are getting more than an entire lane explored of the chapters you have to just complete, for logging in.

    Okay. So you want to compare Cavalier EQ to Cavalier Calendar lets go.
    Cavalier EQ Cavalier Calendar
    T5CC 10% T5CC 0
    T5B 34k T5B 0
    T2A 48K T2A 36K

    Calendar is less than EQ. Now.. on that assumtion, TB EQ will likely work out to be about 20/25% T5CC on completion at least, 2-3 fully formed T2A and 1 to 1 and a half T5B. Whats the difference? Oh.. you actually have to work for the rewards.

    Next point. I included all rewards for 6.1, completion, exploration AND PATHS - divided by 6 to give you a mean total for the entire event. However, you want to compare the requirements for Thronebreaker rewards - Completion not Exploration.. Maths time again.

    Completion of 6.1
    T5B - 9000
    T2A - 21,000 (Providing you take the paths with the additional 3k on each time)
    T5CC - 0
    Units - 180

    TB Calendar
    T5B 18K
    T2A 36K
    T5CC 5%
    Units 100

    Lets go one step further.
    Entire completion of Act 6
    T5B - 5.4 formed - 13 months to form the same amount.
    T2A - 16.8 formed (again, providing you took the harder paths with additional T2A) - 17 Months to form
    T5CC - 25% - 5 months to form equal amounts - admittably not a selector.
    Units 720 - Just over 7 months.

    So.. Act 6 takes a lot more work than logging in to collect the rewards. Content which took almost exactly a year to release fully. Over the space of a year, the calendar for TB gives you almost exactly the same amount of T5B, more units, more T5CC and yes - less T2A.

    We're unlikely to last a year without a buff of the calendar, its very likely on the release of B2.2 we'll get a buff. By that time, we will either have a thronebreaker difficulty, or a title for the next progression level.

    These rewards add up. 10% Cav EQ, 10% Cav SO, 10% Cav SQ and now 5% from Calendar. Thats 35% every month - not including Variants, when T4CC trades finally come in, any additions in the Black ISO market and future content...

    If you want more resources, ask for a means go earn them, for example, Thronebreaker SO, which could give say 20%, or 10% selectors. Thronebreaker EQ - which could give considerably more - say 25/30% to start with, potentially up to 50% depending on if they wait 2 years like they did Cavalier.

    5% T5CC and 18K T5B for free, in comparison to what we have to do to earn 10% T5CC and 34K T5B - regardless of the progression level it is linked to.

    If you do not agree with what kabam is giving you FOR FREE. Do not play. Simple as that. Alternatively, do not progress. If you are not happy with what they give you for doing absolutely nothing, except progressing to a level you'd already be aiming for.. dont push past TB.

    My guess is, and this is just a guess. You ranked a bad 6* to R3 in the hopes you'd get gamebreaking rewards for free, which would cause a even bigger rift between Cavalier and Thronebreaker players - to the same degree as Cavalier and UC players were up until 3/4 months ago. Or you pushed way too early for a title which you may or may not be ready for, and now you want to take advantage of that.

    Earn your rewards. They will increase calendars like we've seen before, as and when the game economy is ready. Not when you demand some of the most valuable resources in the game, equal to the hardest reliable monthly content, for logging in.

    The community is happy for the most part with what we got, like ive said before, yes they could be better. They're not. Youre already at the level, there's nothing to complain about its additional bonus. You reached TB because you wanted an R3 champion, and the rewards for Act 6 completion. Not because of a free calendar.
    No i did not rank up a bad 6* to r3 because i know better than to trust this company after playing this game for a considerable amount of time...and this calender does not entice me to move towards the next progression because all it does is keep white knights happy and others can't complain because it "free" when it's not...
    Those who were proven have the added incentive of getting half a t2a per month from the calender if they move to the next progression which is significant for someone at that stage...those who are UC have an incentive to gain a fully formed t2a if they move up another level which,again, is a significant bump up and mind u these two progression levels aren't linked as much to rng as TB is because come the next progression level u not only need to clear content but also clear an additional content(for now,in the future it will be much easier) and then hope that rng favours u by giving u the right class of rankup material and after doing all these shenanigans, the game rewards me by giving me a game breaking 5% t5cc,100 units,scraps of gold and one of the most ridiculously laughable crystals to be put into a monthly calender...again for something that they said would be a "great" benefit of moving up a progression level
    Now coming to per path analysis-
    All the things u mentioned,anyone getting to TB will have collected these things and that's not only for the title but also for progressing in the game but that doesn't mean that the game laughs at my face after achieving the title
    And since u took all this time to compare cav difficulty to cav calender..thats how it should be done in the first place and not compare cav difficulty to TB calender..the cav calender gives the right amount of free rewards for the effort which has to be put into getting the title but TB calender does not which is a fact regardless of how u spin it by saying it's free or u just have to tap open the game
    It's not like I am not gonna move up the progression because the calender sucks because I know there are other perks of moving up the title but that being said,the calender does put a dent into the plans of many who were considering Ranking up a certain champ to get some immediate benefits because it makes mockery of the effort that has to be put into unlocking it
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★

    ImGodMF said:

    Glad to see the usual suspects aren't happy with free stuff.

    Except that it's not free...people have had to clear some specific content, maybe pay money to get some of the rare rankup stuff and rank up champs in order to reach the point where they have access to TB calender and they have all the right to complain if they feel that the perks that come with the title aren't upto the mark
    You do not have the right to complain if you jump in to specific content or rankups for thronebreaker without forst discovering what the rewards are.
    Yea right...because whatever the company throws at us has to be accepted with closed eyes...if I have put in effort to reach a specific level which has some perks alongside that level,I can complain about the said perks if I don't feel them to be on par with my expectations..coming to the calender the t2a and t5b frags are great...but a measly 100 units,5% t5cc and UC shard crystals are beyond laughable..now u can be happy with picking up scraps thrown down by kabam but I am not and I shall complain
    Sometimes yes you should just accept what's given to you. The calendar isn't the sole place for anything that's on there. Calendars aren't supposed to replace going and earning resources. Calendars exist to give a little extra for playing the game.

    You'll forever complain about "perks" because you think Kabam should be giving you everything instead of actually earning it. I also bet that if it was a 10% T5CC crystal you'd be disappointed it wasn't a selector version or that it should be 25%. People like you and many others in this thread will never, ever be happy with anything that's out out because you think Kabam should be loading rewards so you can do less.
    And now u are doing what u do best...putting words in my mouth..where did I say that I want a 25% crystal..I would be happy with a 10% in the present state of the game..this is the problem with people like u who just don't think that kabam can do any wrong...just because I am complaining for the lack of rewards doesn't mean that I think that they should be handed out...the company is making us work for that calender and it should reflect the work that is being put into reaching the stage where u unlock that calender
    And yes it is not free(replying to the other quote of urs) and unless u give me an argument rather than no just no,please keep ur holier than thou words to urself
    Kabam isn't making you do anything. You don't have to become TB. You have a choice to do it or don't do it.

    There are many components to the title and the calendar is just part of it. People like you over value everything. You think that everything you do, Kabam owes you more for it. The point stands that the calendar isn't supposed to be the sole source of these resources, but people like you seen to think that's what happens when they buff something. There are plenty of other places now to get T5CC.

    It's absolutely free. I didn't pay for the TB title and neither did you. But again, people like you will always try to say it's not because you are trying to find more reasons to push onto Kabam to change the calendar.
    Yes u pay for the title..u pay for it by either doing the longest quests in the game or pay to get the rarest resource in the game which would give u access to getting that r3 which would get u to the next level.. and yet nowhere did I mention that kabam owes me for it which u are so religiously repeating like a broken record but at the same time kabam should reward me for the time and effort
    And again along with the below average amount of t5cc, the pathetic amount of gold,units and UC crystal shards copy pasted from the lower calenders doesn't justify the requirements that they have put out to get the title
    You realize you have no idea what earning something means and paying for it. A good percentage of people who got the title from day 1, already had an R3. Many of them for a very long time. No one knew that title was coming before they took champs to R3. They just did the content and earned the resources. They didn't pay for the title, they got it through earning resources from completing content.

    My R3 came from the T5CC I got from my run through Abyss. I had that T5CC way before the TB title was announced. I didn't pay for the title. No one pays for it..

    Paying for it means I go to the store, select the title and purchase it. Earning resources through content, isn't paying for it. You are trying to argue the whole "time is money" bit that never works either.

    The calendar is free.
    I knew that since u have no logical explanation for the other stuff in the calender..u would be stuck to the t5cc like a baby sucking to a teat
    I have invested time and effort into the game and the company should reward me for the effort I have put into achieving the said title and regardless of how many times u iterate that its free stuff,the simple fact is that it's not because I get this calender after going through the hoops of clearing the content and getting the right rng in order to progress in the game and if I get the same units,gold and useless crystals as someone who has been playing the game for a few months at best then I have every right to not be happy with it

    You've not replied to me at all so far. Make a very clear, meaningful reason as to why, logging into the game - and not even clicking claim, should entitle someone to the same about of T5CC as you get from Solo objective and 100% EQ. How you can earn more from logging in, than 100% completing an entire path of Act 6.

    Act 6.1
    25% TCC - 4.1% per 100%
    1 T5B - 7500 per 100%
    64k T2A - 10.6k per 100%
    540 Units - 90 per 100%

    30 Days Calendar
    5% T5CC = 1 Path 100% + Completion of a second path.
    18K T5B = 2 Paths 100% + 0.4 of a third path.
    36K T2A = 1 Path 100% + 0.8 of a second path.
    100 units = 1 Path = completion of a second path.

    Yes, thats averaging out all rewards consolidated from 100% and dividing them between each path, and it doesnt take into consideration the crystal shards. Yes, the calendar could be game breaking, but its not. You dont need to ask for more when you, in one month on average earn more than you would 100% a path in Act 6 - and all you need to do is log in and collect them for free.

    Well since u are so eager to get a reply then let's do this..
    Act 6 rewards were ridiculed from the day they were announced especially the t5cc being rewarded and that was when act 6 was released months back..the game has moved forward since then..so I don't see why the reward expectations should remain the same even after months
    Coming to the EQ...the monthly EQ is Cavalier not throne breaker..comparing the rewards of a lower tier EQ to the next progression level is in no way logical..thats like comparing UC rewards to cav calender..and if the calender of the highest progression level is not giving us enough t5cc as compared to a lower tier progression then why should that be normal??
    The full t2a has been a part of cav calender for a long time now and while u are comparing the t2a with the path rewards for act 6,u so conveniently skip through the completion rewards which increases the t2a per path because act 6 exploration is not the criteria for throne breaker rather it's act 6 completion
    Now coming to the units...I can get more units than the calender by autofighting through normal EQ..so I guess going by your logic,the unit count should be increased throughout the calenders of various tiers
    Now coming to kya expectations...nowhere have i demanded a ridiculous increase to rewards but rather the calender rewards being scaled to the progression level...just increase the paltry rewards being offered to a slightly more respectable amount..in no way is 5% more t5cc,200-300 more units,slightly more gold and something to replace UC shards is asking for a lot or being entitled
    Act 6 - All you need to gain Thronebreaker is Act 6 & an R3. Now.. if we were talking Book 2 calendar, then yes - rewards should reflect that. You are getting more than an entire lane explored of the chapters you have to just complete, for logging in.

    Okay. So you want to compare Cavalier EQ to Cavalier Calendar lets go.
    Cavalier EQ Cavalier Calendar
    T5CC 10% T5CC 0
    T5B 34k T5B 0
    T2A 48K T2A 36K

    Calendar is less than EQ. Now.. on that assumtion, TB EQ will likely work out to be about 20/25% T5CC on completion at least, 2-3 fully formed T2A and 1 to 1 and a half T5B. Whats the difference? Oh.. you actually have to work for the rewards.

    Next point. I included all rewards for 6.1, completion, exploration AND PATHS - divided by 6 to give you a mean total for the entire event. However, you want to compare the requirements for Thronebreaker rewards - Completion not Exploration.. Maths time again.

    Completion of 6.1
    T5B - 9000
    T2A - 21,000 (Providing you take the paths with the additional 3k on each time)
    T5CC - 0
    Units - 180

    TB Calendar
    T5B 18K
    T2A 36K
    T5CC 5%
    Units 100

    Lets go one step further.
    Entire completion of Act 6
    T5B - 5.4 formed - 13 months to form the same amount.
    T2A - 16.8 formed (again, providing you took the harder paths with additional T2A) - 17 Months to form
    T5CC - 25% - 5 months to form equal amounts - admittably not a selector.
    Units 720 - Just over 7 months.

    So.. Act 6 takes a lot more work than logging in to collect the rewards. Content which took almost exactly a year to release fully. Over the space of a year, the calendar for TB gives you almost exactly the same amount of T5B, more units, more T5CC and yes - less T2A.

    We're unlikely to last a year without a buff of the calendar, its very likely on the release of B2.2 we'll get a buff. By that time, we will either have a thronebreaker difficulty, or a title for the next progression level.

    These rewards add up. 10% Cav EQ, 10% Cav SO, 10% Cav SQ and now 5% from Calendar. Thats 35% every month - not including Variants, when T4CC trades finally come in, any additions in the Black ISO market and future content...

    If you want more resources, ask for a means go earn them, for example, Thronebreaker SO, which could give say 20%, or 10% selectors. Thronebreaker EQ - which could give considerably more - say 25/30% to start with, potentially up to 50% depending on if they wait 2 years like they did Cavalier.

    5% T5CC and 18K T5B for free, in comparison to what we have to do to earn 10% T5CC and 34K T5B - regardless of the progression level it is linked to.

    If you do not agree with what kabam is giving you FOR FREE. Do not play. Simple as that. Alternatively, do not progress. If you are not happy with what they give you for doing absolutely nothing, except progressing to a level you'd already be aiming for.. dont push past TB.

    My guess is, and this is just a guess. You ranked a bad 6* to R3 in the hopes you'd get gamebreaking rewards for free, which would cause a even bigger rift between Cavalier and Thronebreaker players - to the same degree as Cavalier and UC players were up until 3/4 months ago. Or you pushed way too early for a title which you may or may not be ready for, and now you want to take advantage of that.

    Earn your rewards. They will increase calendars like we've seen before, as and when the game economy is ready. Not when you demand some of the most valuable resources in the game, equal to the hardest reliable monthly content, for logging in.

    The community is happy for the most part with what we got, like ive said before, yes they could be better. They're not. Youre already at the level, there's nothing to complain about its additional bonus. You reached TB because you wanted an R3 champion, and the rewards for Act 6 completion. Not because of a free calendar.
    No i did not rank up a bad 6* to r3 because i know better than to trust this company after playing this game for a considerable amount of time...and this calender does not entice me to move towards the next progression because all it does is keep white knights happy and others can't complain because it "free" when it's not...
    Those who were proven have the added incentive of getting half a t2a per month from the calender if they move to the next progression which is significant for someone at that stage...those who are UC have an incentive to gain a fully formed t2a if they move up another level which,again, is a significant bump up and mind u these two progression levels aren't linked as much to rng as TB is because come the next progression level u not only need to clear content but also clear an additional content(for now,in the future it will be much easier) and then hope that rng favours u by giving u the right class of rankup material and after doing all these shenanigans, the game rewards me by giving me a game breaking 5% t5cc,100 units,scraps of gold and one of the most ridiculously laughable crystals to be put into a monthly calender...again for something that they said would be a "great" benefit of moving up a progression level
    Now coming to per path analysis-
    All the things u mentioned,anyone getting to TB will have collected these things and that's not only for the title but also for progressing in the game but that doesn't mean that the game laughs at my face after achieving the title
    And since u took all this time to compare cav difficulty to cav calender..thats how it should be done in the first place and not compare cav difficulty to TB calender..the cav calender gives the right amount of free rewards for the effort which has to be put into getting the title but TB calender does not which is a fact regardless of how u spin it by saying it's free or u just have to tap open the game
    It's not like I am not gonna move up the progression because the calender sucks because I know there are other perks of moving up the title but that being said,the calender does put a dent into the plans of many who were considering Ranking up a certain champ to get some immediate benefits because it makes mockery of the effort that has to be put into unlocking it
    You keep saying that you expect rewards for working hard in this game and whatnot but tell me this, haven't you already gotten your act 6 completion rewards?Haven't you gotten your abyss rewards when you completed them. Those content clearing rewards are the main way to progress in the game and not the calendar. The calendar and daily crystals are just added perks.
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  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★
    edited November 2020

    ImGodMF said:

    Glad to see the usual suspects aren't happy with free stuff.

    Except that it's not free...people have had to clear some specific content, maybe pay money to get some of the rare rankup stuff and rank up champs in order to reach the point where they have access to TB calender and they have all the right to complain if they feel that the perks that come with the title aren't upto the mark
    You do not have the right to complain if you jump in to specific content or rankups for thronebreaker without forst discovering what the rewards are.
    Yea right...because whatever the company throws at us has to be accepted with closed eyes...if I have put in effort to reach a specific level which has some perks alongside that level,I can complain about the said perks if I don't feel them to be on par with my expectations..coming to the calender the t2a and t5b frags are great...but a measly 100 units,5% t5cc and UC shard crystals are beyond laughable..now u can be happy with picking up scraps thrown down by kabam but I am not and I shall complain
    Sometimes yes you should just accept what's given to you. The calendar isn't the sole place for anything that's on there. Calendars aren't supposed to replace going and earning resources. Calendars exist to give a little extra for playing the game.

    You'll forever complain about "perks" because you think Kabam should be giving you everything instead of actually earning it. I also bet that if it was a 10% T5CC crystal you'd be disappointed it wasn't a selector version or that it should be 25%. People like you and many others in this thread will never, ever be happy with anything that's out out because you think Kabam should be loading rewards so you can do less.
    And now u are doing what u do best...putting words in my mouth..where did I say that I want a 25% crystal..I would be happy with a 10% in the present state of the game..this is the problem with people like u who just don't think that kabam can do any wrong...just because I am complaining for the lack of rewards doesn't mean that I think that they should be handed out...the company is making us work for that calender and it should reflect the work that is being put into reaching the stage where u unlock that calender
    And yes it is not free(replying to the other quote of urs) and unless u give me an argument rather than no just no,please keep ur holier than thou words to urself
    Kabam isn't making you do anything. You don't have to become TB. You have a choice to do it or don't do it.

    There are many components to the title and the calendar is just part of it. People like you over value everything. You think that everything you do, Kabam owes you more for it. The point stands that the calendar isn't supposed to be the sole source of these resources, but people like you seen to think that's what happens when they buff something. There are plenty of other places now to get T5CC.

    It's absolutely free. I didn't pay for the TB title and neither did you. But again, people like you will always try to say it's not because you are trying to find more reasons to push onto Kabam to change the calendar.
    Yes u pay for the title..u pay for it by either doing the longest quests in the game or pay to get the rarest resource in the game which would give u access to getting that r3 which would get u to the next level.. and yet nowhere did I mention that kabam owes me for it which u are so religiously repeating like a broken record but at the same time kabam should reward me for the time and effort
    And again along with the below average amount of t5cc, the pathetic amount of gold,units and UC crystal shards copy pasted from the lower calenders doesn't justify the requirements that they have put out to get the title
    You realize you have no idea what earning something means and paying for it. A good percentage of people who got the title from day 1, already had an R3. Many of them for a very long time. No one knew that title was coming before they took champs to R3. They just did the content and earned the resources. They didn't pay for the title, they got it through earning resources from completing content.

    My R3 came from the T5CC I got from my run through Abyss. I had that T5CC way before the TB title was announced. I didn't pay for the title. No one pays for it..

    Paying for it means I go to the store, select the title and purchase it. Earning resources through content, isn't paying for it. You are trying to argue the whole "time is money" bit that never works either.

    The calendar is free.
    I knew that since u have no logical explanation for the other stuff in the calender..u would be stuck to the t5cc like a baby sucking to a teat
    I have invested time and effort into the game and the company should reward me for the effort I have put into achieving the said title and regardless of how many times u iterate that its free stuff,the simple fact is that it's not because I get this calender after going through the hoops of clearing the content and getting the right rng in order to progress in the game and if I get the same units,gold and useless crystals as someone who has been playing the game for a few months at best then I have every right to not be happy with it

    You've not replied to me at all so far. Make a very clear, meaningful reason as to why, logging into the game - and not even clicking claim, should entitle someone to the same about of T5CC as you get from Solo objective and 100% EQ. How you can earn more from logging in, than 100% completing an entire path of Act 6.

    Act 6.1
    25% TCC - 4.1% per 100%
    1 T5B - 7500 per 100%
    64k T2A - 10.6k per 100%
    540 Units - 90 per 100%

    30 Days Calendar
    5% T5CC = 1 Path 100% + Completion of a second path.
    18K T5B = 2 Paths 100% + 0.4 of a third path.
    36K T2A = 1 Path 100% + 0.8 of a second path.
    100 units = 1 Path = completion of a second path.

    Yes, thats averaging out all rewards consolidated from 100% and dividing them between each path, and it doesnt take into consideration the crystal shards. Yes, the calendar could be game breaking, but its not. You dont need to ask for more when you, in one month on average earn more than you would 100% a path in Act 6 - and all you need to do is log in and collect them for free.

    Well since u are so eager to get a reply then let's do this..
    Act 6 rewards were ridiculed from the day they were announced especially the t5cc being rewarded and that was when act 6 was released months back..the game has moved forward since then..so I don't see why the reward expectations should remain the same even after months
    Coming to the EQ...the monthly EQ is Cavalier not throne breaker..comparing the rewards of a lower tier EQ to the next progression level is in no way logical..thats like comparing UC rewards to cav calender..and if the calender of the highest progression level is not giving us enough t5cc as compared to a lower tier progression then why should that be normal??
    The full t2a has been a part of cav calender for a long time now and while u are comparing the t2a with the path rewards for act 6,u so conveniently skip through the completion rewards which increases the t2a per path because act 6 exploration is not the criteria for throne breaker rather it's act 6 completion
    Now coming to the units...I can get more units than the calender by autofighting through normal EQ..so I guess going by your logic,the unit count should be increased throughout the calenders of various tiers
    Now coming to kya expectations...nowhere have i demanded a ridiculous increase to rewards but rather the calender rewards being scaled to the progression level...just increase the paltry rewards being offered to a slightly more respectable amount..in no way is 5% more t5cc,200-300 more units,slightly more gold and something to replace UC shards is asking for a lot or being entitled
    Act 6 - All you need to gain Thronebreaker is Act 6 & an R3. Now.. if we were talking Book 2 calendar, then yes - rewards should reflect that. You are getting more than an entire lane explored of the chapters you have to just complete, for logging in.

    Okay. So you want to compare Cavalier EQ to Cavalier Calendar lets go.
    Cavalier EQ Cavalier Calendar
    T5CC 10% T5CC 0
    T5B 34k T5B 0
    T2A 48K T2A 36K

    Calendar is less than EQ. Now.. on that assumtion, TB EQ will likely work out to be about 20/25% T5CC on completion at least, 2-3 fully formed T2A and 1 to 1 and a half T5B. Whats the difference? Oh.. you actually have to work for the rewards.

    Next point. I included all rewards for 6.1, completion, exploration AND PATHS - divided by 6 to give you a mean total for the entire event. However, you want to compare the requirements for Thronebreaker rewards - Completion not Exploration.. Maths time again.

    Completion of 6.1
    T5B - 9000
    T2A - 21,000 (Providing you take the paths with the additional 3k on each time)
    T5CC - 0
    Units - 180

    TB Calendar
    T5B 18K
    T2A 36K
    T5CC 5%
    Units 100

    Lets go one step further.
    Entire completion of Act 6
    T5B - 5.4 formed - 13 months to form the same amount.
    T2A - 16.8 formed (again, providing you took the harder paths with additional T2A) - 17 Months to form
    T5CC - 25% - 5 months to form equal amounts - admittably not a selector.
    Units 720 - Just over 7 months.

    So.. Act 6 takes a lot more work than logging in to collect the rewards. Content which took almost exactly a year to release fully. Over the space of a year, the calendar for TB gives you almost exactly the same amount of T5B, more units, more T5CC and yes - less T2A.

    We're unlikely to last a year without a buff of the calendar, its very likely on the release of B2.2 we'll get a buff. By that time, we will either have a thronebreaker difficulty, or a title for the next progression level.

    These rewards add up. 10% Cav EQ, 10% Cav SO, 10% Cav SQ and now 5% from Calendar. Thats 35% every month - not including Variants, when T4CC trades finally come in, any additions in the Black ISO market and future content...

    If you want more resources, ask for a means go earn them, for example, Thronebreaker SO, which could give say 20%, or 10% selectors. Thronebreaker EQ - which could give considerably more - say 25/30% to start with, potentially up to 50% depending on if they wait 2 years like they did Cavalier.

    5% T5CC and 18K T5B for free, in comparison to what we have to do to earn 10% T5CC and 34K T5B - regardless of the progression level it is linked to.

    If you do not agree with what kabam is giving you FOR FREE. Do not play. Simple as that. Alternatively, do not progress. If you are not happy with what they give you for doing absolutely nothing, except progressing to a level you'd already be aiming for.. dont push past TB.

    My guess is, and this is just a guess. You ranked a bad 6* to R3 in the hopes you'd get gamebreaking rewards for free, which would cause a even bigger rift between Cavalier and Thronebreaker players - to the same degree as Cavalier and UC players were up until 3/4 months ago. Or you pushed way too early for a title which you may or may not be ready for, and now you want to take advantage of that.

    Earn your rewards. They will increase calendars like we've seen before, as and when the game economy is ready. Not when you demand some of the most valuable resources in the game, equal to the hardest reliable monthly content, for logging in.

    The community is happy for the most part with what we got, like ive said before, yes they could be better. They're not. Youre already at the level, there's nothing to complain about its additional bonus. You reached TB because you wanted an R3 champion, and the rewards for Act 6 completion. Not because of a free calendar.
    No i did not rank up a bad 6* to r3 because i know better than to trust this company after playing this game for a considerable amount of time...and this calender does not entice me to move towards the next progression because all it does is keep white knights happy and others can't complain because it "free" when it's not...
    Those who were proven have the added incentive of getting half a t2a per month from the calender if they move to the next progression which is significant for someone at that stage...those who are UC have an incentive to gain a fully formed t2a if they move up another level which,again, is a significant bump up and mind u these two progression levels aren't linked as much to rng as TB is because come the next progression level u not only need to clear content but also clear an additional content(for now,in the future it will be much easier) and then hope that rng favours u by giving u the right class of rankup material and after doing all these shenanigans, the game rewards me by giving me a game breaking 5% t5cc,100 units,scraps of gold and one of the most ridiculously laughable crystals to be put into a monthly calender...again for something that they said would be a "great" benefit of moving up a progression level
    Now coming to per path analysis-
    All the things u mentioned,anyone getting to TB will have collected these things and that's not only for the title but also for progressing in the game but that doesn't mean that the game laughs at my face after achieving the title
    And since u took all this time to compare cav difficulty to cav calender..thats how it should be done in the first place and not compare cav difficulty to TB calender..the cav calender gives the right amount of free rewards for the effort which has to be put into getting the title but TB calender does not which is a fact regardless of how u spin it by saying it's free or u just have to tap open the game
    It's not like I am not gonna move up the progression because the calender sucks because I know there are other perks of moving up the title but that being said,the calender does put a dent into the plans of many who were considering Ranking up a certain champ to get some immediate benefits because it makes mockery of the effort that has to be put into unlocking it
    You keep saying that you expect rewards for working hard in this game and whatnot but tell me this, haven't you already gotten your act 6 completion rewards?Haven't you gotten your abyss rewards when you completed them. Those content clearing rewards are the main way to progress in the game and not the calendar. The calendar and daily crystals are just added perks.
    And that's what I have been saying...the perks aren't upto the mark...I did act 6 because I was having fun while doing it..there was no announcement of TB back then..but then TB was announced and the announced great benefits and the calender was listed as one but it has been far from great and that's where my gripe is
  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★

    Go find another game mate. Clearly isn't for you if you think this is kabam laughing in your face.

    Heard Raid Shadow Legends is good.. have fun 👍

    I am having fun in this game and I call out the parent company when they don't give out enough for the efforts...u should remove ur white knight armour too sometimes,might help
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★

    Go find another game mate. Clearly isn't for you if you think this is kabam laughing in your face.

    Heard Raid Shadow Legends is good.. have fun 👍

    I am having fun in this game and I call out the parent company when they don't give out enough for the efforts...u should remove ur white knight armour too sometimes,might help
    What do you mean the parent company isn't giving enough?The last few months had side quests with amazing rewards, next month looks good too. They nerfed act 6 making it easier to attains those rewards. Act 7 looks easy which means easy rewards for sure. The daily crystals for thronebreaker are much better than any daily crystal for a progression level. You keep saying that you want to be rewarded for your efforts but you realise that its now easier to clear act 6 than before. The rewards and perks are perfectly matched to the effort you give.
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  • ImGodMFImGodMF Member Posts: 459 ★★★

    Well..can't argue against bootlickers for long because for them daddy kabam does no wrong
    Peace out

    Go back to school kid, and grow up.
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  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★
    edited November 2020
    ImGodMF said:

    Well..can't argue against bootlickers for long because for them daddy kabam does no wrong
    Peace out

    Go back to school kid, and grow up.
    Big words coming out of a man who just left Kabam's teat to school me
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  • SidDDragonSidDDragon Member Posts: 1,183 ★★★

    ImGodMF said:

    Well..can't argue against bootlickers for long because for them daddy kabam does no wrong
    Peace out

    Go back to school kid, and grow up.
    Big words coming out of a man who just left Kabam's teat to school me
    Bigger words from a small boy demanding more pocket money. Go play the game, any other day I'd be too busy working for my rewards to entertain you 😁 perks of sleepy Sundays!. Enjoy the free gifts youre getting for logging in. See you in 6-12 months when the calendar is buffed, and you're wanting more 😘
    Did I quote u whitey...enjoy the rewards and say daddy hi for me
  • ImGodMFImGodMF Member Posts: 459 ★★★
    you're the one crying over free **** in a game buddy :)
  • ThatGuyYouSaw235ThatGuyYouSaw235 Member Posts: 3,333 ★★★★★
    Welcome to mcoc first world problems
  • BerjibsBerjibs Member Posts: 1,526 ★★★★
    The calendar is disappointing. Happy with the t5, the rest is 🤷🏽‍♂️ uncollected shards were irrelevant at uncollected level. Why are we still getting that tripe?

    40 4* shards. Oh great.
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