Why isn't Killomonger immune to Havoks detonation?

I just wanted to ask why isn't killomonger immune to havoks detonation he starts every match with an armor buff buts it called vibranoum armor but its still considered armor, so shouldn't he be immune to plasma detonation I test it killomonger when it comes to regular detonation when he reaches 10 on you, he detonates them and I take damage despite of me having armor buff how ever when it comes to l3 and I have industrutible and 10 plasmas on me i don't take damage so just want to know shouldn't killomonger be immune to havoks plasma because he has an armor buff?

Also sorry English is not my best 😂

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Only qrmour up buffs work not armour passives

It’s a passive armour effect, whereas Havok’s detonation is only prevented by active armour ups

You can tell the difference between them because active buffs have the bright border round them while passives are flat

Hope this helps!

Only qrmour up buffs work not armour passives

Dang thats a bit dum 😕

buffs not passives

It’s a passive armour effect, whereas Havok’s detonation is only prevented by active armour ups

You can tell the difference between them because active buffs have the bright border round them while passives are flat

Hope this helps!

Alright thx👌it did.
I thought passive armor and armor still counted but it apparently doesn't

the passive vs not passive is dumb

Thx for answering my question guys, I thought he was immune because what ever armor you have even if passive you can't take damage from havoks plasmas but I guess I misread the thing

It’s a passive armour effect, whereas Havok’s detonation is only prevented by active armour ups

You can tell the difference between them because active buffs have the bright border round them while passives are flat

Hope this helps!
Alright thx👌it did.
I thought passive armor and armor still counted but it apparently doesn't

yep same stuff with IMIW.

It’s a passive armour effect, whereas Havok’s detonation is only prevented by active armour ups

You can tell the difference between them because active buffs have the bright border round them while passives are flat

Hope this helps!
Alright thx👌it did.
I thought passive armor and armor still counted but it apparently doesn't
yep same stuff with IMIW.

I even forgot iron man iw has passive armor

the passive vs not passive is dumb

Yeah they should change that discreption a bit because there ain't much difference with a passive armor vs armor

Read the description. An armor up BUFF

Read the description. An armor up BUFF

Like I said I missread the thing

But I'm still confused the industuctible buffs shouldn't protect me from the detonation on havoks l3 I tested this 3 times with 10 plasmas on me and then he tossed l3 and I didn't take energy damage so I'm confused of why killomonger is able to protect himself from havoks l3 detonation yet not regular detonations

I know I'm making dum questions but I'm confused of how he protects himself from regular l3 detonation and yet not the other detonations

Likely it has something to do with one being an attack, while the other one isn't.
I'm not sure if it is an intended behaviour, but I would guess he shouldn't be able to negate the damage

Likely it has something to do with one being an attack, while the other one isn't.
I'm not sure if it is an intended behaviour, but I would guess he shouldn't be able to negate the damage

Thats what I'm thinking it suppose protect me from l3 but not the detonations so I think its bugged or something

But I'm still confused the industuctible buffs shouldn't protect me from the detonation on havoks l3 I tested this 3 times with 10 plasmas on me and then he tossed l3 and I didn't take energy damage so I'm confused of why killomonger is able to protect himself from havoks l3 detonation yet not regular detonations

Indestructible like from Luke Cage or CMM protect you from any kind of damage, right? You could tank a hundred SP 3 or thousands of plasmas while you are invincible.

the passive vs not passive is dumb

No, its not. Some effects are buffs, some are explicitly not buffs, and they are explicitly not buffs because those effects are not intended to be affected by things that normally affect buffs. Colossus has a passive effect that makes him immune to bleed, incinerate, and cold snap. Should this be a buff as well, that could be nullified?

The reason why people don't complain about Colossus' protections being a passive instead of a buff I suspect has as much to do with the fact that it is invisible (there's no icon for it), than anything else. So why is Colossus' passive protections invisible while Killmonger's vibranium armor effect visible? Because vibranium armor needs to be visible when active to provide critical information to the player, since that effect is sometimes active and sometimes not active. The player needs to know when it is active. Colossus' passive protections are basically always active.

There was a time when passive effects were in fact all but invisible to the player, in the sense that there was no iconography to show they were active. People didn't complain as much about the passive vs buff thing back then, because there was nothing to complain about. There were buffs, and there were invisible stuff that just happened, like Star Lord's signature ability. Nobody said "that should be a buff." And even now there are passive effects with no icon. It is the icon that makes people think the effect should be treated differently from all other passive effects, which is why I believe this is mostly a problem people have with the display logic that actually benefits players. It just also gives them an opportunity to argue something that is really not arguable.

If the developers want to make an effect that doesn't behave like a buff, they make it a passive. You can claim its a dumb distinction, but the alternative is far worse: make everything a buff, but make all buffs work differently. That would be a mess, and players would have no idea how anything worked.

the passive vs not passive is dumb
Yeah they should change that discreption a bit because there ain't much difference with a passive armor vs armor

there clearly is lol

I know I'm making dum questions but I'm confused of how he protects himself from regular l3 detonation and yet not the other detonations

probably a weird interaction with the sp3 because it's triggered by the sp3

It’s a passive armour effect, whereas Havok’s detonation is only prevented by active armour ups

You can tell the difference between them because active buffs have the bright border round them while passives are flat

Hope this helps!

Just a correction here: an "active effect" is an effect that is currently doing something, as opposed to "not active" where it is not doing something. Killmonger's vibranium armor is a passive armor effect. It is an active effect when it is up, and a not-active effect when it is on cooldown. It is therefore an active passive armor effect when it is up.

Active and passive are not opposites in MCOC. The opposite of active is "not active." "Passive" doesn't have an opposite, any more than 3 has an opposite. There are passives, buffs, debuffs, and a couple other things the game doesn't talk about a lot (like certain node effects that are none of the above).

Side note: whether we are talking about abilities or effects, "Active" means it is on. The opposite of active is "not active." But "Passive" means two different things depending on context. When talking about effects, "Passive" is a type: passive, buff or debuff. But when talking about abilities, "Passive" refers to an ability that is does not need to be activated, in other words it is always on. All other kinds of abilities other than passive abilities need to be activated in some manner to turn on.

the passive vs not passive is dumb

It's not because (passives):

-Can't be nullified by the means of Fate Seal and Stagger;
-Won't trigger Buffet and Power Snack;
etc.

the passive vs not passive is dumb
Yeah they should change that discreption a bit because there ain't much difference with a passive armor vs armor
there clearly is lol

It is there but not everyone will know whats passive or buff, heck even my friend who's played the game long as I have didn't know the difference I had to explain him that lmao

the passive vs not passive is dumb
It's not because (passives):

-Can't be nullified by the means of Fate Seal and Stagger;
-Won't trigger Buffet and Power Snack;
etc.

Hmm true like passive regen or something like that

But I'm still confused the industuctible buffs shouldn't protect me from the detonation on havoks l3 I tested this 3 times with 10 plasmas on me and then he tossed l3 and I didn't take energy damage so I'm confused of why killomonger is able to protect himself from havoks l3 detonation yet not regular detonations
Indestructible like from Luke Cage or CMM protect you from any kind of damage, right? You could tank a hundred SP 3 or thousands of plasmas while you are invincible.

Hmm alright

But I'm still confused the industuctible buffs shouldn't protect me from the detonation on havoks l3 I tested this 3 times with 10 plasmas on me and then he tossed l3 and I didn't take energy damage so I'm confused of why killomonger is able to protect himself from havoks l3 detonation yet not regular detonations

As a rule, indestructible buffs protect you from all damage that lands simultaneously as part of an attack. Since all of Havok's SP3 damage essentially lands simultaneously including the detonations, I believe it should all count as one burst of damage. An indestructible buff should protect against all of that damage. I haven't tested this directly, but I would be surprised if it did not.

But I'm still confused the industuctible buffs shouldn't protect me from the detonation on havoks l3 I tested this 3 times with 10 plasmas on me and then he tossed l3 and I didn't take energy damage so I'm confused of why killomonger is able to protect himself from havoks l3 detonation yet not regular detonations
As a rule, indestructible buffs protect you from all damage that lands simultaneously as part of an attack. Since all of Havok's SP3 damage essentially lands simultaneously including the detonations, I believe it should all count as one burst of damage. An indestructible buff should protect against all of that damage. I haven't tested this directly, but I would be surprised if it did not.

Can you go test it because I know killomongers buff is suppose protect during l3 but not after the detonation though especially if i had 10 of those if that makes sense 🤷‍♂️

But I'm still confused the industuctible buffs shouldn't protect me from the detonation on havoks l3 I tested this 3 times with 10 plasmas on me and then he tossed l3 and I didn't take energy damage so I'm confused of why killomonger is able to protect himself from havoks l3 detonation yet not regular detonations
As a rule, indestructible buffs protect you from all damage that lands simultaneously as part of an attack. Since all of Havok's SP3 damage essentially lands simultaneously including the detonations, I believe it should all count as one burst of damage. An indestructible buff should protect against all of that damage. I haven't tested this directly, but I would be surprised if it did not.
Can you go test it because I know killomongers buff is suppose protect during l3 but not after the detonation though especially if i had 10 of those if that makes sense 🤷‍♂️

Killmonger doesn't have a normal indestructible

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