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UC arena crystals or regular arena crystals

GardenerGardener Posts: 1,592 ★★★
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if i want to earn units from arena crystals should i open UC arena crystals or regular arena crystals

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  • GardenerGardener Posts: 1,592 ★★★
    Black_Swan said:

    The UC crystal has 1/5 of the chance to give the big unit chunk that the normal does, but it gives 5 times as many units. Only difference is 5* punisher.

    Ah okay so ill go for the UC crystls and hope i get lucky
  • K00shMaanK00shMaan Posts: 1,289 ★★★★
    UC Crystals are slightly more valuable because of the Punisher value but other than that they have the same expected value for Gold, Units, and Energy Refills. The UC crystals have a little bit more variability though because you open less of them.
  • GardenerGardener Posts: 1,592 ★★★
    Thanks and i think ill go for UC crystals
  • HSS75HSS75 Posts: 1,003 ★★★
    U should for regular arena crystals because u have more of a chance to get units when there are more crystals
  • gforcefangforcefan Posts: 375 ★★★
    HSS75 said:

    U should for regular arena crystals because u have more of a chance to get units when there are more crystals

    That is not exactly correct. You have more of a chance to get the *expected* amount of units because you open more crystals. The UC crystals have a greater variability as mentioned above. Therefore, you are more likely to get more or less units from UC crystals.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Posts: 17,114 Guardian
    gforcefan said:

    HSS75 said:

    U should for regular arena crystals because u have more of a chance to get units when there are more crystals

    That is not exactly correct. You have more of a chance to get the *expected* amount of units because you open more crystals. The UC crystals have a greater variability as mentioned above. Therefore, you are more likely to get more or less units from UC crystals.
    Technically, he's right that you have a greater chance to get units when you open more crystals. So if you're someone that feels psychologically punished when you get no units at all, and it doesn't balance out for you mentally when you get a blockbuster bag of units occasionally, then you should open the standard crystals. Because you're way more likely to walk away with *something*.

    You're also correct in that because you're opening more standard crystals than uncollected ones, your average return will converge towards the expected average faster, so you're more likely to see the average than either extreme. This means no big wins, no big losses.

    In the long run, both average out. But people tend to not look at the long term averages, or don't keep track of them. If you believe the math, open the Unc crystals because the math says they have a tiny edge (due to the Punishers). But if you can't just open and take what comes, if the feeling of opening the crystals means more than the mathematical return on investment, open standard if you want boring, open Uncollected if you want thrilling (good and bad).
  • GardenerGardener Posts: 1,592 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    gforcefan said:

    HSS75 said:

    U should for regular arena crystals because u have more of a chance to get units when there are more crystals

    That is not exactly correct. You have more of a chance to get the *expected* amount of units because you open more crystals. The UC crystals have a greater variability as mentioned above. Therefore, you are more likely to get more or less units from UC crystals.
    Technically, he's right that you have a greater chance to get units when you open more crystals. So if you're someone that feels psychologically punished when you get no units at all, and it doesn't balance out for you mentally when you get a blockbuster bag of units occasionally, then you should open the standard crystals. Because you're way more likely to walk away with *something*.

    You're also correct in that because you're opening more standard crystals than uncollected ones, your average return will converge towards the expected average faster, so you're more likely to see the average than either extreme. This means no big wins, no big losses.

    In the long run, both average out. But people tend to not look at the long term averages, or don't keep track of them. If you believe the math, open the Unc crystals because the math says they have a tiny edge (due to the Punishers). But if you can't just open and take what comes, if the feeling of opening the crystals means more than the mathematical return on investment, open standard if you want boring, open Uncollected if you want thrilling (good and bad).
    Okay i think this might make me sometimes get the UC cristals(when i have alot of battle chips) and sometimes get the regular crystals( when i don't have alot of battle chips)
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