He was a trash throwaway champ....now he reminds me of a Walmart skill version of tigra. I’ll take it. I enjoy the character and......wait for it....he is fun to play. I wish his damage was keyed up to give him flexibility in longer fights to not drag out, but I can not complain.
Until cybermonday I consistently pulled the crappies of champs. These overhauls aren’t always what we expect but it sure gives me peace of mind to think “ahhh this 6 star groot will be reworked one day.”
Sorry for those who are disappointed with the changes. Maybe in the next few months more ways to use him will come about?
Utility, what does this champ do that is unique and necessary to get around nodes. His old kit had an easily accessible armor break. Meaning he could shut down annoying abilities like KMs reverberate or Emma’s diamond form. Also a decent stun on the sp1 that could be used to apply said armor break. Also full use of the willpower mastery meaning average survival rates when suffering a damaging Debuff.
New kit. He can shrug off non damaging debuffs, which is nice but others frankly do it better and more reliably. He has nice bleed damage just not as accessible as the previous kits armor breaks so honestly not as useful. The burst damage on the SP3 does give you access to more damage but... the nerfed willpower mastery means he melts far too easily now. The damaging debuff forest was missed for the rage tree. The Regen woulda have been on blades level or maybe OG Wolvie which would have been unique and great. Instead we have a champ that makes willpower a wasted investment
I think the fury should longer and abilities should be a little amped. Make all the percentage chance increase a little, but the fury needs to be longer @Kabam Zibiit@Kabam Vydious all other kabam people
I have so many qualms with not only the overhaul, but it's handling.
1. In the past, Kabam has provided numerical data when tuning Cull, HT and Annihilus. We got comparisons of their damage with many other champs in the level they wanted to include these champs with. For DDHK, we got a statement "Willpower too OP. Changed it" and called it a day. Where's the actual numbers? Where's the comparison to other regen champs? Why do we have to take it at face value? 2. Why was there no CCP beta access for this overhaul where we could see these claims for ourselves? We had one for every overhaul champ. It gave a chance to test out these champs in various scenarios that now were debating he needs to be tried at before commented upon. (high sig, niche matchups etc.). Here, we're directly thrown into this update.
He has one other unique debuff compared to every other champ in the game for its uptime. And the more debuffs you have, by your own words, the more attack. So if matchups end quicker, I cannot utilise the willpower healing to its full extent. That's the trade-off here.
The sad part is we're only going to discuss his overhaul for a day and be done with it once the December goodies roll in. Between the new champs, calendars, gifting and other events, this will be an afterthought.
Niche matchup champions need to be justified for their usage. Magneto works against the odd 30 champions in game. But for those 30 champs, there isn't a single one better. For DDHK, why should I even consider bringing him against NF in any scenario? Keep in mind this is an overhaul. This has to be better than what they did with Falcon for example.
I'm disappointed honestly. I pulled this guy 3 days before in the dual crystals and was hyped for his update. I do have a NF and was still wanting him to be a champ I can rotate out consistently with NF. He just seems like someone I'm going to keep on the bunch till I have Aegon also maxed, and am running out of catalysts.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
@Kabam Miike Thanks for this, still would be glad to pull him as a 6* in the new featured 6 *.....btw AWESOME POOL!
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
Thanks Mike for your Feedback, appreciate it But you guys keep telling he has his place in situations, which situations lol? If someone has falcon, they ll just use him. We are glad kabam did an overhaul, and i dont think people wanted a magneto level buff, they wanted a decent champ which didnt have to be a lame copy of falcon.
People have expectations, that to with a fan favourite champ like Daredevil. And this just disappointed, nothing to do with magento or anything like that.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
Thanks Mike for your Feedback, appreciate it But you guys keep telling he has his place in situations, which situations lol? If someone has falcon, they ll just use him. We are glad kabam did an overhaul, and i dont think people wanted a magneto level buff, they wanted a decent champ which didnt have to be a lame copy of falcon.
People have expectations, that to with a fan favourite champ like Daredevil. And this just disappointed, nothing to do with magento or anything like that.
I'm sorry to hear you're disappointed. Every Champion in-game is somebody's favourite though, and that doesn't mean that we'll be able to make them all the very best at everything.
If somebody has Falcon, they can use Falcon, but if they don't, but have Daredevil, then they can use Daredevil. Not everybody has access to every Champion, so giving Summoners more tools to handle certain situations is a good thing.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
@Kabam Miike the overhaul idea was awesome. The ability to consume combo meter to switch modes for different abilities is amazing. I also appreciate he's the only champion with an infinite combo shield. We just need some changes here to remove the regen reduction and tweak his damage numbers. That's all we're asking.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
Thanks Mike for your Feedback, appreciate it But you guys keep telling he has his place in situations, which situations lol? If someone has falcon, they ll just use him. We are glad kabam did an overhaul, and i dont think people wanted a magneto level buff, they wanted a decent champ which didnt have to be a lame copy of falcon.
People have expectations, that to with a fan favourite champ like Daredevil. And this just disappointed, nothing to do with magento or anything like that.
I'm sorry to hear you're disappointed. Every Champion in-game is somebody's favourite though, and that doesn't mean that we'll be able to make them all the very best at everything.
If somebody has Falcon, they can use Falcon, but if they don't, but have Daredevil, then they can use Daredevil. Not everybody has access to every Champion, so giving Summoners more tools to handle certain situations is a good thing.
True No argument their mate. But still doesnt change the fact that he is really underwhelming Mike. Damage wise, regen +suicide wise, if something can be done for that it ll be great, these changes would definitely not break him and make him more usable. I dont see a reason why i should rank him up. Even though i dont have falcon, i dont feel like ranking him up, that says alot about a champ dont you think.
He has a comparable dps to Elsa Bloodstone and she has a religious cult following. So what's all the whining about?
@magnus_xix Where is your data?? I have both at r5 as 5*s and I can say they are DEFINITELY not even close in DPS. She beats him in nearly every way possible. Don’t spread false data.
He has a comparable dps to Elsa Bloodstone and she has a religious cult following. So what's all the whining about?
If they know he has a religious following, then they should also know a more than decent work is expected. And what’s the meaning of we want to bring him in line with his comic/film counterpart from @Kabam Miike. What about the other gods that are mediocre in mcoc? Yeah, Ghost is in line with his comic/film counterpart, so is NF and the list goes on. You guys use words when it suit you.
Hell’s Kitchen in comics/films is no Hyperion, Cap Marvel nor Void but have big fans, even bigger fans of him than some of these gods. The show brought him closer to some of us than the other comics characters. For an alert and calculative play style, it should be rewarded with some good damage (not off the roof). A new book is out, a fan favorite like DD that’s been buffed in 2020 should have a place in there. His numbers and regen thing, he’ll warm bench so many better option, he’s not even an alternative.
For the first time, you should revisit a buffed champ.
And his animations make me laugh 😂. The guy is a highly skilled martial artist, how come he throws combo punches like big chunky Colossus with some slow connecting kicks. The buffed is a fail, a huge one.
I've given him a few good tries and I still haven't seeing him done nothing to impressive but if anyone has figured out a good rotation plz let me know
I mean IDK for all the work I did to get a good Rotation for him, I could do the same with Nebula and mostly likely get more damage out of her than him.
and its a slight bummer because I was thinking he would have been as fun as hit monkey, but like in terms of his damage out put.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
@Kabam Miike for all of the great work you did with his animations and kit, please don't let it go to waste @TheHoodedDormammu & I have left some suggestions here and in the Champion Spotlight thread which we believe can greatly help him out without much effort from the dev side (tuning, no abilities changes) Please have a look and pass on our feedback to the team, it would be greatly appreciated #FixDaredevil
Very disappointed for now. his fury is not helping him much, his base damage is too low and i dont see point of regeneration reduction, may be make rage as passive and make his regen back to normal.
I don't run suicides so I wouldn't know, but DD is not as bad as people are making him to be, not even close, he has solid utility and his damage is way above average. I don't know what you guys are doing differently but DD is no dud
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Until cybermonday I consistently pulled the crappies of champs. These overhauls aren’t always what we expect but it sure gives me peace of mind to think “ahhh this 6 star groot will be reworked one day.”
Sorry for those who are disappointed with the changes. Maybe in the next few months more ways to use him will come about?
New kit. He can shrug off non damaging debuffs, which is nice but others frankly do it better and more reliably. He has nice bleed damage just not as accessible as the previous kits armor breaks so honestly not as useful. The burst damage on the SP3 does give you access to more damage but... the nerfed willpower mastery means he melts far too easily now. The damaging debuff forest was missed for the rage tree. The Regen woulda have been on blades level or maybe OG Wolvie which would have been unique and great. Instead we have a champ that makes willpower a wasted investment
1. In the past, Kabam has provided numerical data when tuning Cull, HT and Annihilus. We got comparisons of their damage with many other champs in the level they wanted to include these champs with. For DDHK, we got a statement "Willpower too OP. Changed it" and called it a day. Where's the actual numbers? Where's the comparison to other regen champs? Why do we have to take it at face value?
2. Why was there no CCP beta access for this overhaul where we could see these claims for ourselves? We had one for every overhaul champ. It gave a chance to test out these champs in various scenarios that now were debating he needs to be tried at before commented upon. (high sig, niche matchups etc.). Here, we're directly thrown into this update.
He has one other unique debuff compared to every other champ in the game for its uptime. And the more debuffs you have, by your own words, the more attack. So if matchups end quicker, I cannot utilise the willpower healing to its full extent. That's the trade-off here.
The sad part is we're only going to discuss his overhaul for a day and be done with it once the December goodies roll in. Between the new champs, calendars, gifting and other events, this will be an afterthought.
Niche matchup champions need to be justified for their usage. Magneto works against the odd 30 champions in game. But for those 30 champs, there isn't a single one better. For DDHK, why should I even consider bringing him against NF in any scenario? Keep in mind this is an overhaul. This has to be better than what they did with Falcon for example.
I'm disappointed honestly. I pulled this guy 3 days before in the dual crystals and was hyped for his update. I do have a NF and was still wanting him to be a champ I can rotate out consistently with NF. He just seems like someone I'm going to keep on the bunch till I have Aegon also maxed, and am running out of catalysts.
Lots of differing feedback here. I am not going to offer any info to sway anyone in a different direction, but I want to remind everybody that not every Champion will be the best choice for everything. Nor will every overhaul slingshot every Champion to the top of the list. The Magnetos are an expectation, and probably outside what you should expect for these kinds of updates. We wanted to bring them in line with their comic book/film counterparts.
Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is a unique Champion. He won't work with every mastery setup (the same way that not every mastery is beneficial to every Champion), but he has his place in certain situations now. I am taking your feedback to the team, especial regarding the regen rate change, but I want to make sure that everybody is aware that you should not be ranking up Champions before you know what the update is going to be, and that our goal is not to make every Champion the Top Damage dealer in the game.
But you guys keep telling he has his place in situations, which situations lol?
If someone has falcon, they ll just use him.
We are glad kabam did an overhaul, and i dont think people wanted a magneto level buff, they wanted a decent champ which didnt have to be a lame copy of falcon.
People have expectations, that to with a fan favourite champ like Daredevil. And this just disappointed, nothing to do with magento or anything like that.
If somebody has Falcon, they can use Falcon, but if they don't, but have Daredevil, then they can use Daredevil. Not everybody has access to every Champion, so giving Summoners more tools to handle certain situations is a good thing.
But still doesnt change the fact that he is really underwhelming Mike.
Damage wise, regen +suicide wise, if something can be done for that it ll be great, these changes would definitely not break him and make him more usable.
I dont see a reason why i should rank him up. Even though i dont have falcon, i dont feel like ranking him up, that says alot about a champ dont you think.
Hell’s Kitchen in comics/films is no Hyperion, Cap Marvel nor Void but have big fans, even bigger fans of him than some of these gods. The show brought him closer to some of us than the other comics characters.
For an alert and calculative play style, it should be rewarded with some good damage (not off the roof). A new book is out, a fan favorite like DD that’s been buffed in 2020 should have a place in there. His numbers and regen thing, he’ll warm bench so many better option, he’s not even an alternative.
For the first time, you should revisit a buffed champ.
And his animations make me laugh 😂. The guy is a highly skilled martial artist, how come he throws combo punches like big chunky Colossus with some slow connecting kicks. The buffed is a fail, a huge one.
and its a slight bummer because I was thinking he would have been as fun as hit monkey, but like in terms of his damage out put.
R5 unawakened DD vs. Winter Soldier before buffed (7-8min fight):
Conclusion: his damage output is significantly improved after buffed, but it’s still underwhelming....
@TheHoodedDormammu & I have left some suggestions here and in the Champion Spotlight thread which we believe can greatly help him out without much effort from the dev side (tuning, no abilities changes)
Please have a look and pass on our feedback to the team, it would be greatly appreciated
#FixDaredevil
I don't know what you guys are doing differently but DD is no dud