They say utility over dmg...

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  • SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★

    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot

    That was a 5* r3?? Not surprised it took so many hits then.
    He was boosted tho
  • SkyLord7000SkyLord7000 Member Posts: 4,020 ★★★★★
    edited January 2021
    I don’t use my six star for anything. It’s kinda sad. Don’t have him duped but I have a skill r2 gem that’s not going into him. I feel that an unduped km just isn’t good.
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,916 ★★★★★

    Wait, what’s the fight? If it’s that kingpin he’s a tanky man and will be shrugging your bleeds. And what rank is your killmonger?

    His damage isn’t the best but that must be a R3 or R4 5*. Because I used my 6* R2 in they quest a lot in exploration and no fight even came close to that. Unduped as well

    Well that makes sense then. Even if he was boosted that would still take a **** ton
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,160 ★★★★★
    Utility over damage but you can use some damage heavy but utility lite champs in your roster.
  • EtjamaEtjama Member Posts: 7,981 ★★★★★
    Wait, that was a R3 5* KM against a guy that's going to be shurgging off your bleeds? What did you expect? 😂

    And that fight doesn't even require utility. The point is that champs with strong utility can get through those fights and any others that have actual utility requirements. Champs with strong damage can get through these fights easily, but they're going to get stuck on anything with utility requirements.
  • SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★
    Etjama said:

    Wait, that was a R3 5* KM against a guy that's going to be shurgging off your bleeds? What did you expect? 😂

    And that fight doesn't even require utility. The point is that champs with strong utility can get through those fights and any others that have actual utility requirements. Champs with strong damage can get through these fights easily, but they're going to get stuck on anything with utility requirements.

    Well he had boosts and I got nicked a few times but his utility saved me so I didn’t have to use any items on him
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  • SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★

    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot

    I used a 5* r3 sentinel for 6.1 crossbones and it easily took over 600 hits, that doesn't mean he has bad damage or anything, it was mostly just cuz of his rank
    Thats not a fair comparison cuz heal blocks can shrug off and my r4 sentinel took like more than 1500 hits (my rng sucks)
  • SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★

    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot

    I used a 5* r3 sentinel for 6.1 crossbones and it easily took over 600 hits, that doesn't mean he has bad damage or anything, it was mostly just cuz of his rank
    Thats not a fair comparison cuz heal blocks can shrug off and my r4 sentinel took like more than 1500 hits (my rng sucks)
    Im not saying my kilmonger argument is valid or right (which it is not) Im just using an example of lots of hits, but lots of utility to ask people is utility>dmg really worth it?
  • NigelthornberryNigelthornberry Member Posts: 458 ★★★

    King pin is guaranteed to shrug all debuffs if he has over 5, this can't be stopped by aar or AA's bleeds so I don't think it was fair

    Yeah I said that but still I used my venom and got him down to originally like 88% and that took like 30 hits or so
    Venom's damage isn't reliant on debuffs as much as Km's is and even then venom doesn't always stack 5+ debuffs
    But kilmonger can’t stack bleeds can he?
    When he throws an sp3 he gets 35+ bleeds depending on how many you had pre sp3
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  • HoitadoHoitado Member Posts: 3,707 ★★★★★
    Take Sunspot as an example

    He has little utility (even though what he has is amazing) and his damage is insane because he takes out opponents so fast.
  • GreekhitGreekhit Member Posts: 2,820 ★★★★★

    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot

    I used a 5* r3 sentinel for 6.1 crossbones and it easily took over 600 hits, that doesn't mean he has bad damage or anything, it was mostly just cuz of his rank
    Thats not a fair comparison cuz heal blocks can shrug off and my r4 sentinel took like more than 1500 hits (my rng sucks)
    Im not saying my kilmonger argument is valid or right (which it is not) Im just using an example of lots of hits, but lots of utility to ask people is utility>dmg really worth it?
    What rarity and rank is your Killmonger, because 620 hits it’s really too much.
    For example I took this fight all runs with a Domino 5/65 and she needed an average of about 150 hits without suicides.
    I would expect a Killmonger 5/65 awakened and high sig to do it in about double that, but not four times more.
    Is the KM you used r4 or even r3?
    Kingpin is a bad matchup for Killmonger anyway, so you can’t expect good stats from that.

  • SaltE_Wenis69SaltE_Wenis69 Member Posts: 1,993 ★★★★
    Greekhit said:

    I think I may just be hard on kilmonger but ever since I gave him my ag and took him as my first 5* r3, my 4/40s could even match his dmg (hulk, sparkles with no binary, and another one i forgot

    I used a 5* r3 sentinel for 6.1 crossbones and it easily took over 600 hits, that doesn't mean he has bad damage or anything, it was mostly just cuz of his rank
    Thats not a fair comparison cuz heal blocks can shrug off and my r4 sentinel took like more than 1500 hits (my rng sucks)
    Im not saying my kilmonger argument is valid or right (which it is not) Im just using an example of lots of hits, but lots of utility to ask people is utility>dmg really worth it?
    What rarity and rank is your Killmonger, because 620 hits it’s really too much.
    For example I took this fight all runs with a Domino 5/65 and she needed an average of about 150 hits without suicides.
    I would expect a Killmonger 5/65 awakened and high sig to do it in about double that, but not four times more.
    Is the KM you used r4 or even r3?
    Kingpin is a bad matchup for Killmonger anyway, so you can’t expect good stats from that.

    Look above
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