EQ Cosmic Node Problem and How to Fix It

SkyLord7000

My previous discussion disappeared so this will take it's place

Quick note, I know people want the rewards buffed. I do too. Regardless there are other things wrong with Cav EQ. This is one of them. So this is what my topic will be on.

Since the Cav EQ came out I noticed a flaw with the Cosmic Quest and the Cosmic Grit node. This node essentially makes the champs that can get buffs get extra damage, while leaving the ones that don't in the dust. I've created a new node that would help take the place of the old one. The node is called Cosmic Strength. It reads "Whenever a cosmic attacker would place an Armor Break debuff gain an indefinite Fury buff granting 35% attack. Armor Shattered debuffs grant an additional Fury Buff (two total). Max stacks 10." This would allow more cosmic champions to play in the EQ and allow more diverse Cosmic roster growth.

This tier list shows that over 50% of cosmic champions are either very bad or unusable for the Cosmic Quest in EQ vs what my best guess is to what it would look like with the new node.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OcQ3Xh2Zv1_uU7cmEyD9cyULIE-_ftEmC-UcZHsPWmw/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you for your time in reading this post.

SkyLord7000

All I ask is for the Kabam devs to review this post and react. I don’t see a reason not to implement this into the game.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Is not really necessary.
The cosmic class is mainly known for the use of Buffs. Almost every, if not every cosmic champion is able to trigger buffs by it's base.
The node is fine as it is

SkyLord7000

will-o-wisp said:

Is not really necessary.
The cosmic class is mainly known for the use of Buffs. Almost every, if not every cosmic champion is able to trigger buffs by it's base.
The node is fine as it is

Actually over 50% of cosmic champions can’t trigger three buffs reliably. I made a list that you can go to via the hyperlink. I think you would be surprised.

Mr_Platypus

Interesting that you put king groot in the unusable category when he has 50% uptime on his furies. Probably still won’t hit as hard as other champs. But claiming he’s ‘unusable’ is just straight up false.

SkyLord7000

Mr_Platypus said:

Interesting that you put king groot in the unusable category when he has 50% uptime on his furies. Probably still won’t hit as hard as other champs. But claiming he’s ‘unusable’ is just straight up false.

I suppose with dex he could still hit. I will change him to very bad. Because that sounds painful since he can’t use specials either. (Because they remove fury)

Mr_Platypus

SkyLord7000 said:

Mr_Platypus said:

Interesting that you put king groot in the unusable category when he has 50% uptime on his furies. Probably still won’t hit as hard as other champs. But claiming he’s ‘unusable’ is just straight up false.

I suppose with dex he could still hit. I will change him to very bad. Because that sounds painful since he can’t use specials either. (Because they remove fury)

Aptitude buffs count towards the 3 required for damage via buffed up node... you could literally get 2 of them by dexing an attack and retaliating during the first fury phase you start with, do it again during those 10(?) seconds and you now have all the buffs you need to deal damage for the rest of the fight.
I’m not saying he’s the best, but you’re asking for changes to one of the least problematic CavEQ nodes while saying some champs that are perfectly viable (if a bit slow) are unusable.

Crcrcrc

Cosmic is one of the easiest nodes in the EQ. It has plenty of counters and if you can’t complete it, you can’t complete the Cav EQ. It is meant to test your roster.

Thicco_Mode

you don't even need cosmic champs for it either. I imagine the armor break is even more restrictive than buffs

Gamer

Aromer break wil be like so u can’t use lesser champions

Demonzfyre

Thicco_Mode said:

you don't even need cosmic champs for it either. I imagine the armor break is even more restrictive than buffs

It's swapping 1 type for another. This won't make it any better at all.

Realm_Of_Rah

This is worse than what we have right now. There's already a chapter related to placing debuffs, there's nothing wrong with one being associated with buffs

Bahubali

Why is CGR and Medusa in "okay..but" tier in that spreadsheet?

I cleared 2 paths just with CGR.. if you have trouble getting buffs.. Use Medusa+Black bolt, CGR+GR..

TyEdge

SkyLord7000 said:

will-o-wisp said:

Is not really necessary.
The cosmic class is mainly known for the use of Buffs. Almost every, if not every cosmic champion is able to trigger buffs by it's base.
The node is fine as it is

Actually over 50% of cosmic champions can’t trigger three buffs reliably. I made a list that you can go to via the hyperlink. I think you would be surprised.

And most of those 50 aren’t gonna be ranked to a level that you’d bother with using them in EQ anyway.

I agree to this extent, and it applies to science/diss track too. Don’t do full damage reductions. Period. Those can’t be overcome with skill. 5.3 is a perfect example...for a developing roster, it sucks to endure the nerf, but you have a choice. Diss track and buffed up are nearly full barriers to entry for many.

Rbk19

SkyLord7000 said:

My previous discussion disappeared so this will take it's place

Quick note, I know people want the rewards buffed. I do too. Regardless there are other things wrong with Cav EQ. This is one of them. So this is what my topic will be on.

Since the Cav EQ came out I noticed a flaw with the Cosmic Quest and the Cosmic Grit node. This node essentially makes the champs that can get buffs get extra damage, while leaving the ones that don't in the dust. I've created a new node that would help take the place of the old one. The node is called Cosmic Strength. It reads "Whenever a cosmic attacker would place an Armor Break debuff gain an indefinite Fury buff granting 35% attack. Armor Shattered debuffs grant an additional Fury Buff (two total). Max stacks 10." This would allow more cosmic champions to play in the EQ and allow more diverse Cosmic roster growth.

This tier list shows that over 50% of cosmic champions are either very bad or unusable for the Cosmic Quest in EQ vs what my best guess is to what it would look like with the new node.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OcQ3Xh2Zv1_uU7cmEyD9cyULIE-_ftEmC-UcZHsPWmw/edit?usp=sharing

Thank you for your time in reading this post.

Why you made medusa as ok for usuable champion after gaining three buffs they will receive aptitude buff which also counted as buff. You can also use others like collusus and magneto

The_Sentry06

People are often forgetting here that you don't neccesarily need to bring cosmic champs for this chapter. There are tons of other champs in other classes that can work for Buffed Up.

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Rayaan_2000

Havok, Storm Pyramid X, Gambit, Apoc with cable are also viable options

Nojokejaym

So other champs than cosmic can handle that quest but they won’t be able to take advantage of the aptitude buff since they’re aren’t cosmic.

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ShadPrince

Also
If you’re really desperate
Bringing Heimdall and 2 synergies allows for you to gain a permanent fury and precision buff
One dex and you’ve got an aptitude buff and then champs that don’t get buffs are fighting normally

SkyLord7000

This aged well(ish)

LibertyPrimeV1

SkyLord7000 said:

This aged well(ish)

Really interesting...

herm

Well technically everybody works if you have Heimdall on your team but yeah I get the point. Obviously, the numbers could use some adjusting to better fit the cav standard, but I don't see why this shouldn't be a thing. Although as someone who owns a r2 venom this more or less doesn't benefit me