IBom vs DDHK

BigBlueOx

Can anybody explain why 100% Regen on DDHK is OP when Ibom is Poison Immune (essentially) and gets 100% Regen?

#fixDDHK

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

There is nothing broken and nothing to fix here

Maxwell24

will-o-wisp said:

There is nothing broken and nothing to fix here

They should fix his regen rate back too 100% though because he is unusable with suisides

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Maxwell24 said:

will-o-wisp said:

There is nothing broken and nothing to fix here

They should fix his regen rate back too 100% though because he is unusable with suisides

That is not broken and there is nothing to fix there.
Also, don't use suicides if he isn't good with them

Gamer

will-o-wisp said:

Maxwell24 said:

will-o-wisp said:

There is nothing broken and nothing to fix here

They should fix his regen rate back too 100% though because he is unusable with suisides

That is not broken and there is nothing to fix there.
Also, don't use suicides if he isn't good with them

Even with salv he bad champion in my eys he for ruid more that anything.

SkyLord7000

I don’t know much about ibom but does the poison he takes no damage to affect his regen rate?

Crcrcrc

SkyLord7000 said:

I don’t know much about ibom but does the poison he takes no damage to affect his regen rate?

Yes, that’s why it isn’t reduced

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Colinwhitworth69

Immortal Abom is great.

Etm34

Couldn’t they just change DDHK’s debuff to a passive and bring his regen back up? I haven’t used him more than once since he’s been buffed so I’m not incredibly familiar

BigBlueOx

I’m not on the forums a lot but @will-o-wisp not surprise to see who the contrarian is. DDHK’s Regen rate is broken, plain and simple. The argument that he’s would be too OP on healing because of a single willpower debuff that’s not always up is a joke too. Ibom’s mechanic with willpower is essentially the same, although I acknowledge the poison debuff does reduce the Regen rate. Everyone I know who has one talks about how he’s constantly healing on the attack.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

DDHK regen rate is NOT broken. As you can read in his abiltiies, it is intended to be like that.

BigBlueOx

It breaks the kit, just because it’s intended to be that way doesn’t mean it’s a good design. It makes an average damage dealer have below average utility. I’d argue it’s less utility than the prebuff kit without a damage tradeoff

Eb0ny-O-M4w

It doesn't "break" anything there. He doesn't even have an healing ability on it's own.
If you are still talking about his interaction with the suicide masteries, then that's another case, and one that is perfectly avoidable. Just use the right champion for it instead of using the wrong one

Mr_Platypus

It might not be broken but it certainly makes very little sense to say DD is too op with normal regen rate, when IAbom exists

BigBlueOx

will-o-wisp said:

It doesn't "break" anything there. He doesn't even have an healing ability on it's own.
If you are still talking about his interaction with the suicide masteries, then that's another case, and one that is perfectly avoidable. Just use the right champion for it instead of using the wrong one

I’m talking about his interaction with damaging debuffs vs every other champ in the game. The dude was promoted to be good with willpower, he breaks the mastery to the point of unusable. He gets almost no benefit from the rage healing and melts when inflicted with anything. It’s a demerit point exclusive to him as EVERY other non-robot champ in the game gets to benefit from this mastery. Flat broken to the point of why argue it?

Eb0ny-O-M4w

If you use him wrong in the wrong scenarios, of course he will be penalized. Just like any champion.
Again, nothing is broken here. Is how he was designed to be. Literally working as intended.

BigBlueOx

Intended to be unusable in high level content? Great point

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Eb0ny-O-M4w

BigBlueOx said:

Intended to be unusable in high level content? Great point

Don't use the suicide masteries then. That is completely your fault and nothingin the game forces you to use them

BigBlueOx

I’m not talking about suicides, you keep making that mistake.

BigBlueOx

If DDHK smells a fart he will die of poison, he melts that easily

Eb0ny-O-M4w

BigBlueOx said:

If DDHK smells a fart he will die of poison, he melts that easily

Fart's in the game aren't poisonous and you aren't forced to use Daredevil on a match-up that will inflict you with a poison. Again, you are better at using another champion for the right scenario

BlackTuran

@will-o-wisp so no one can have a problem with or criticize the way a champion works because "it's intended that way"? do you ever make any constructive comments?

Mr_Platypus

For a forum “guardian” you’re incredibly argumentative

BigBlueOx

Name one place after act 5 you’ll use him. I’ve accepted that I’ve fed the troll at this point but would love an actual response

Eb0ny-O-M4w

BigBlueOx said:

Name one place after act 5 you’ll use him. I’ve accepted that I’ve fed the troll at this point but would love an actual response

Act 6, Act 7, Event quests, side quests, arena, AQ, AW, Incursions, special quests. Pretty much anywhere.
Why do you think he can't be used in any of those?

Moot4Life

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BigBlueOx

Wow you can list endgame content without actually giving us anything. So insightful.

Seems like you have 2 arguments, with great thought behind them.

1.) he was designed to be horrible with willpower even though he was promoted to be good with it

2.) use him in endgame because....

BigBlueOx

And yes you CAN use anybody in that content, but I can’t list one node that I would use him for. Even the things he’s good at is rather just play around like long distance relationship