Someone said bwcv got better dmg then sorcerer

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  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,402 ★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    FIRSTLY: sorcerer supreme objectively has better damage, hands down.
    SECONDLY: Claire doesn't have average nullify ability. She's one of the only champions that can remove buffs from Thing.
    THIRDLY: Claire isn't about her damage, she's about utility and the fact that she works really well with suicides
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  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    Exclude thing's scenario but still how many times or why you will face thing with bwcv?

    Best nullify mechanics in game is stagger (automatic nullify while needed) and she is dependent on sp2 for that (you can't say it's perfect or close to perfect) that's why I called 'average nullify ability' and have you used her against tenacity or power restrictions nodes?
    Even sorcerer supreme is not the best or close to best nullify mechanics in the game, example aol fights, opponent will heal a lot from regeneration buffs if you are not ready them(sp1 is long and makes distance then you need to almost touch your opponent for .8 second for nullify)

    But she is has great sustainability (she can heal herself you play rightly with her) and damage output with some utilities (armor break, slow) and people think you need to compromise sustainability for damage, it's not a true (use sp3 on regeneration phase because armor break phase comes after power steal phase so will never face any problem to stack that runes with sp2)

    Without suicides bwcv has pretty average damage output(try yourself in any act 6.4 quest), and if you think she has good damage output then you don't know anything about damage

    Without suicides bwcv has one immunity with some nullify ability that's it... don't shout here for bwcv because you can't change or deny facts

    I have R5 bwcv and r2 Sorcerer supreme both are unduped...
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    I never said that she is trash or ss is good, i was just showing my opinions if someone think bwcv is better for day to day content and has better sustainability and damage then SS... Then I don't have any problem use her as much as you can

    But I always prefer ss for most content and bwcv only in 2 scenarios

    1) i need one of her immunity and nullify at same time (that's the only thing why she is better then any mystic)

    2) caviler mystic path because her regeneration is too good with those prowess

    This time I will clear one thing that bwcv can be used in many scenario except those 2 situation (disstrack, heal block..) but I have stacked rosters so I always use best options rather than doable option 😅
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,402 ★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Yea... We Say "SLAY QUEEN ALL WHO KILLS BIOHAZARDS AND IMMUNES"
  • TitoBandito187TitoBandito187 Member Posts: 2,072 ★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    I never said that she is trash or ss is good, i was just showing my opinions if someone think bwcv is better for day to day content and has better sustainability and damage then SS... Then I don't have any problem use her as much as you can

    But I always prefer ss for most content and bwcv only in 2 scenarios

    1) i need one of her immunity and nullify at same time (that's the only thing why she is better then any mystic)

    2) caviler mystic path because her regeneration is too good with those prowess

    This time I will clear one thing that bwcv can be used in many scenario except those 2 situation (disstrack, heal block..) but I have stacked rosters so I always use best options rather than doable option 😅

    Claire works on disstrack. Throw heavies... 3 debuffs applied, keep stacking to sp2 for big damage. Just can't use a stance that won't apply a debuff for a specific defender immunity.

    Let's face it. Both are useful as heck. Why do we always have to justify someone being better than the other? Really depends on the nodes, opponent, etc. If you have both, congrats! Take one up and then the other when you can.
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
    Sorry 4 r2 not r3... I don't have any r3 at this moment 😓
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,402 ★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
    I value utility over damage (usually). if a champ has decent damage, but insane utility, then they're my bae *cough cough Claire kill monger*. doesn't mean they are absolutely the best of their class (Exception for Claire sometimes), but they do what they do, and they do it well
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,955 ★★★★★


    I might not think Claire is the best but she’s solid at what she can do. And she can do a lot.
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
    Yeah I run suicides. But even without she is some of the best for nullify. She can absolutely shut down buffs, plus she is extremely sustainable. She’s very good just as an immunities champ
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
    Yeah I run suicides. But even without she is some of the best for nullify. She can absolutely shut down buffs, plus she is extremely sustainable. She’s very good just as an immunities champ
    Cool, yeah bro she is one of the best champ for suicides but without suicides it's different story (same like Omega red)

    I would like hear 'bwcv is the best' from no suicides user that have stacked rosters as compare to me (minimum) if not like yours,
    And I'm sure that person doesn't exists because I'm not a Claire hatter or something like that and still feel people are very over hyped for her
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210



    I might not think Claire is the best but she’s solid at what she can do. And she can do a lot.

    I remember you were also a Claire lover😅want happened to you, you removed suicides (if you had them before) or you found some better options
  • RockypantherxRockypantherx Member Posts: 3,917 ★★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

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    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Wow! You think that’s all she has!

    She has access to 3 immunities. It’s rare you need more than one

    Her nullify is extremely potent, she can nullify from the first hit of the fight, and completely strips all buffs on the SP2, which doesn’t count as a fate seal or nullify, instead an immunity, which feeds her power and further nullify abilities. She can completely control buffs in most matchups

    She has access to 3 types of debuffs that she can apply easily, which allows to take nodes like acid wash, pleasure to burn and diss track, and interacts with despair to counter healing, especially in the poison phase

    In addition to that she also has energy damage, which can get around. Some nicher scenarios like Korg

    Not to mention she has decent power control on the SP2 in the poison curse, and very potent regen on the SP2 to keep you alive throughout the quest

    And let’s not forget she has a cheat death when awakened, which while not useful all the time, it’s saved me enough times to be glad to have her duped

    Finally, she also just gives your team +10% attack against villains on her own. Because why not

    But you’re right, she doesn’t throw 100k SP2’s so trash champion
    AGYAAT said:

    HI_guys said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Wow! people still consider bwcv for damage without suicides!

    She has nothing then one immunity at a time with average nullify ability, without suicides...

    If someone said sp2 in incinerate phase then still it's not hit like truck or anything...

    Average nullify? You for real? She has one of the most reliable buff removal mechanics in the game.
    Kid, wise people & unbiased opinion also exists here
    Lol kids are spamming disagree on that quote so it's means wise people and unbiased opinion doesn't exist here 😂

    Does bwcv lovers also have any hailing slogans for her like hail hydra! Or something like that
    Have you considered that you might actually just be wrong? I’m sitting at 40 R5/R2/R3’s and 100% everything and she makes my front line up every single day. I need the 6* because I don’t have enough copies of her
    Seriously Dude! I don't have that mighty rosters (22 r5 and 4 r3 with good amount of rank up resources including gems) but still I have better options then her for most content except immunity+nullify because she is the only one for this, and I do use those better options over her... Why don't you do the same? because you also know that she is good not the best for most things that people give credit to her...Do you run suicides? If yes then it's all good but if you are same like me (no suicides) then I don't think I will be able to understand you...😥
    Yeah I run suicides. But even without she is some of the best for nullify. She can absolutely shut down buffs, plus she is extremely sustainable. She’s very good just as an immunities champ
    Cool, yeah bro she is one of the best champ for suicides but without suicides it's different story (same like Omega red)

    I would like hear 'bwcv is the best' from no suicides user that have stacked rosters as compare to me (minimum) if not like yours,
    And I'm sure that person doesn't exists because I'm not a Claire hatter or something like that and still feel people are very over hyped for her
    Omega is still the best mutant with suicides. He was my 2nd most used champ behind ghost for 100% act 6 without suicides throughout the entire thing.

    If people thinks she’s the best without suicides they’re crazy, but she’s still hovering around the 2-4 spot
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    OMG are saying Omega red is = ghost without suicides? Or something like that, buddy you seriously need to explore and test your 40+ r5 & r2, r3 champs you will found many better options then omega red (without suicides)... How you managed act 6's block damage pre nerf while using everywhere omega without suicides , maybe you didn't had other options at that time...
  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210
    Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,955 ★★★★★
    AGYAAT said:



    I might not think Claire is the best but she’s solid at what she can do. And she can do a lot.

    I remember you were also a Claire lover😅want happened to you, you removed suicides (if you had them before) or you found some better options
    What? I’ve never been a Claire lover (I don’t have one at a useable rank)
  • SpideyFunkoSpideyFunko Member Posts: 21,955 ★★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...

    Everybody’s biased. Don’t get your problem tho. You’re hating on BWCV
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  • AGYAATAGYAAT Member Posts: 210

    AGYAAT said:

    Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...

    Everybody’s biased. Don’t get your problem tho. You’re hating on BWCV
    I don't hate any champ but my main problem is that I'm not a like seeker and always say about what I feel without any hesitation,
    Didn't said that bwcv is lame or trash I just said that ss is better for sustainability and damage (without suicides) and I have both champs and I often use them as well

    It's enough on this stupid discussion you have the right to hail for anyone, and you can also consider Omega red as a top mutant without suicides among your mighty rosters
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,402 ★★★★
    AGYAAT said:

    AGYAAT said:

    Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...

    Everybody’s biased. Don’t get your problem tho. You’re hating on BWCV
    I don't hate any champ but my main problem is that I'm not a like seeker and always say about what I feel without any hesitation,
    Didn't said that bwcv is lame or trash I just said that ss is better for sustainability and damage (without suicides) and I have both champs and I often use them as well

    It's enough on this stupid discussion you have the right to hail for anyone, and you can also consider Omega red as a top mutant without suicides among your mighty rosters
    But... didn't you just go around saying what you felt without any hesitation??????
  • GreanGrean Member Posts: 1,402 ★★★★
    Btw who gave that man an agree?
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