Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...
Everybody’s biased. Don’t get your problem tho. You’re hating on BWCV
I don't hate any champ but my main problem is that I'm not a like seeker and always say about what I feel without any hesitation, Didn't said that bwcv is lame or trash I just said that ss is better for sustainability and damage (without suicides) and I have both champs and I often use them as well
It's enough on this stupid discussion you have the right to hail for anyone, and you can also consider Omega red as a top mutant without suicides among your mighty rosters
That’s honestly not my problem anymore. You’re getting ***** because people are “biased” by which you mean they don’t agree with you so they’re wrong. You’re calling yourself unbiased, calling others dumb and are being an ****.
This discussion only became stupid when you started commenting
Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...
Everybody’s biased. Don’t get your problem tho. You’re hating on BWCV
I don't hate any champ but my main problem is that I'm not a like seeker and always say about what I feel without any hesitation, Didn't said that bwcv is lame or trash I just said that ss is better for sustainability and damage (without suicides) and I have both champs and I often use them as well
It's enough on this stupid discussion you have the right to hail for anyone, and you can also consider Omega red as a top mutant without suicides among your mighty rosters
Ah yes the old “I have less experience but I’m right” argument. It doesn’t matter what you “feel” if it is incorrect.
Damage is not the only thing that holds up the game,I would say 60% utility and 40% damage ,to the people who say that some champs don't have high damage,I personally think that 'the right yellow bar stays up' is better than 'the left yellow bar goes down',of course we have to maintain our health throughout the quest,we don't only need dmg(hitting the opponent hard and getting ur health below 50% lol),and the same with utility,u cannot cover the whole fight having utility and finishing a simple act 6 fight in 300-400 hits.
SS and BWCV have above decent dmg when needed like massive AB of SS and sp 2 in hellfire for claire,and side by side have a kit of utility for sustainaibility.
It's more like 70% damage and 30% utility. That's why we have champs like corvus soloing champion boss and darkhawks.
Exclude thing's scenario but still how many times or why you will face thing with bwcv?
Best nullify mechanics in game is stagger (automatic nullify while needed) and she is dependent on sp2 for that (you can't say it's perfect or close to perfect) that's why I called 'average nullify ability' and have you used her against tenacity or power restrictions nodes? Even sorcerer supreme is not the best or close to best nullify mechanics in the game, example aol fights, opponent will heal a lot from regeneration buffs if you are not ready them(sp1 is long and makes distance then you need to almost touch your opponent for .8 second for nullify)
But she is has great sustainability (she can heal herself you play rightly with her) and damage output with some utilities (armor break, slow) and people think you need to compromise sustainability for damage, it's not a true (use sp3 on regeneration phase because armor break phase comes after power steal phase so will never face any problem to stack that runes with sp2)
Without suicides bwcv has pretty average damage output(try yourself in any act 6.4 quest), and if you think she has good damage output then you don't know anything about damage
Without suicides bwcv has one immunity with some nullify ability that's it... don't shout here for bwcv because you can't change or deny facts
I have R5 bwcv and r2 Sorcerer supreme both are unduped...
That's not fact,That's ur opinion,and that's u shouting here. Let's talk about claire-
1.she has insane regen ability. 2.She has triple immunities not one ,and one at a time does not matter,there aren't many scenarios where u need triple immunities at a time. 3.My best counter for hype,gain Clairevoyance charges,from hype's immunity,to nullify his power gain,and sp2 for some more control. 4.Really good prestige. 5.Counters regen champs through her poison. 6.She also places buff immunity instead of just nullifying,which works like stagger. 7.Insane Power gain against Immunity champs. 8.Insane burst Dmg as she has 9 hits in sp2 and that is insane dmg. 9.doesn't need awakening,but if awakened ,she can sometimes save u from dying,with her death immunity and heal some health.
I don't know what people need from a champion...She is an absolute beast man,and I can't help u if u are blind on her.
Both Claire and Omega are perfectly useable without suicides and are still top-tier champs in their respective champs without them. They still have their incredibly valuable utility and only their excellent damage output is hindered a bit but they still dish out a ton of damage without suicides.
Honestly this form is full of biased people that are devoted to some champs and completely hate or ignore some champs...
Everybody’s biased. Don’t get your problem tho. You’re hating on BWCV
I don't hate any champ but my main problem is that I'm not a like seeker and always say about what I feel without any hesitation, Didn't said that bwcv is lame or trash I just said that ss is better for sustainability and damage (without suicides) and I have both champs and I often use them as well
It's enough on this stupid discussion you have the right to hail for anyone, and you can also consider Omega red as a top mutant without suicides among your mighty rosters
Do you think that maybe the fact we consider these champs as top champs even in our ‘mighty rosters’ should tell you something?
It’s fine to go against the prevailing opinion, and the majority can absolutely be wrong, but you need to have the experience and arguments to back it up, which you don’t. You just scream bias at anyone who disagrees
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This discussion only became stupid when you started commenting
Let's talk about claire-
1.she has insane regen ability.
2.She has triple immunities not one ,and one at a time does not matter,there aren't many scenarios where u need triple immunities at a time.
3.My best counter for hype,gain Clairevoyance charges,from hype's immunity,to nullify his power gain,and sp2 for some more control.
4.Really good prestige.
5.Counters regen champs through her poison.
6.She also places buff immunity instead of just nullifying,which works like stagger.
7.Insane Power gain against Immunity champs.
8.Insane burst Dmg as she has 9 hits in sp2 and that is insane dmg.
9.doesn't need awakening,but if awakened ,she can sometimes save u from dying,with her death immunity and heal some health.
I don't know what people need from a champion...She is an absolute beast man,and I can't help u if u are blind on her.
It’s fine to go against the prevailing opinion, and the majority can absolutely be wrong, but you need to have the experience and arguments to back it up, which you don’t. You just scream bias at anyone who disagrees