Immortal Abom Lionheart Broken Interaction Path 1 AW
tafre
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First of all I will share the node below so everybody can see the description.
As the node states, whenever healing is reduced or reversed by a debuff the potency of the regens increases and the attacker gets passive degen. Immortal Abom or ibom, on this node is an extremely niche fight. First of all you would need a poison immune because of his base kit. On top of that, ibom inflicts self poisons and since there is Lionheart, he degens you each time a self poison is applied on him. Furthermore, an awakened ibom starts off with 3 self poisons so you degen from the start and ibom has 300% more potent regen including willpower healing and buffet.
The only 2 reliable counters I can think of are Quake and Gulk. Maybe AA with good neuro RNG, Ghost with tech boosts+Hood and Warlock with very slow parry heavy gameplay and heavy boosts since the degen from lionheart is unavoidable. On top of that there is buffet to consider as well. Feel free to add more counters if you can think of more.
So my question is this: Why does such a niche fight exist? The poison debuff/Lionheart interaction should be reviewed to make this a fair fight otherwise it is too much to consider for a single fight. The degen is pretty much unavoidable and deals around 20% so you would die in around 50 hits just from the self inflict poison applying and causing unavoidable degen from Lionheart.
*** I feel the need to add this final disclaimer, yes the counters I wrote can do this fight with good gameplay but the requirements are far too steep to have only a few counters.
As the node states, whenever healing is reduced or reversed by a debuff the potency of the regens increases and the attacker gets passive degen. Immortal Abom or ibom, on this node is an extremely niche fight. First of all you would need a poison immune because of his base kit. On top of that, ibom inflicts self poisons and since there is Lionheart, he degens you each time a self poison is applied on him. Furthermore, an awakened ibom starts off with 3 self poisons so you degen from the start and ibom has 300% more potent regen including willpower healing and buffet.
The only 2 reliable counters I can think of are Quake and Gulk. Maybe AA with good neuro RNG, Ghost with tech boosts+Hood and Warlock with very slow parry heavy gameplay and heavy boosts since the degen from lionheart is unavoidable. On top of that there is buffet to consider as well. Feel free to add more counters if you can think of more.
So my question is this: Why does such a niche fight exist? The poison debuff/Lionheart interaction should be reviewed to make this a fair fight otherwise it is too much to consider for a single fight. The degen is pretty much unavoidable and deals around 20% so you would die in around 50 hits just from the self inflict poison applying and causing unavoidable degen from Lionheart.
*** I feel the need to add this final disclaimer, yes the counters I wrote can do this fight with good gameplay but the requirements are far too steep to have only a few counters.
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Quake is slow because those poisons give him physical resistance.
Every 10 hits a new self-inflicted poison applies to iBom causing passive degen to the attacker. Really limits conventional options.
The constant 300% heal means one buffet proc is 45% of his modified health back instantly.
Also, when quaking, the free 300% willpower heal means you are barely doing damage unless you are boosted.
Champions placed there with suicides get the 300% willpower heal as well, however the poison at least does damage on them, whereas iBom takes no poison damage, so it's just a free heal, and then quake's stuns and concussions cause even more heal (a 5/65 is healing for 800+ per tick when concussions, stuns, and poisons are on during her aftershock). Despair 3/3 doesn't come into play that much because the heal is already 300% so despair barely makes a dent.
And as Tafre mentioned the only heal block champion that can counter degen is Ghulk with face me. AA, if your neuros don't stay on all match, AA will either be poisoned to death or degened to death.
EDIT: just reread and noticed AA was mentioned. But it’s less dependent on RNG since ibom has poisons in place for you to work with from the start.
This is a top tier alliance war fight. The nodes are supposed to require niche counters. I agree that this one is particularly punitive and stuff like this is why I’m sitting this season out, but there are going to be interactions like this at that level.
Does anyone have footage of AA here vs ibom? I have used AA on other lionheart opponents. If neuros fall off while baiting specials and you have to start over you will probably die. You can get poisoned yourself in addition to the degen
These are the times I'm happy I'm not in top tier war