Colossus VS Archangel

So I recently r5d my Colossus and I love him. I think that while he doesn’t have a ton of utility, he’s a good champ and pairs well with my OR. My top 5 mutants are OR, Red Mags, Colossus, AA, Apoc. My friend swears that AA gets the nod over Colossus and colossus barely makes the top 10 mutants.
So which is better, Colossus or AA?

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Hoitado

Archangel is better overall IMO but I think Colossus has more utility

UnidentifiedCreature

For me, its a close call. Damage wise, I think Colossus might be a bit better than Archangel, but Archangel for sure has more utility. So, yeah, I'm gonna go with my guy Archangel on on this one, but Colossus is not that much worse.

Masterpuff

Colossus has very little relevant utility and AA has the second best AAR in the game imo. No contest in my book.

Polygon

Oh how the meta shifts. If this question was asked around 5 months ago or longer, Colossus would’ve been the more popular answer. Now it’s as clear as mud that AA is the superior champ

The_Sentry06

AA is better but Colossus does have some utility and quite easily passes top 10.

Terminatrix

Congrats on R5ing your Colossus! Hard to compare the two since both are great champs with great abilities. Colossus has many immunities, AA has none. AA has insane poison and damage over time, Colossus has none. Colossus has a nasty heavy attack that accrues more power with his armor up buffs, AA doesn't. Colossus can handle anybody, AA might struggle against bleed immune, poison immune, and robot champs. Colossus has unblockabe Sp2, AA has unblockable nothing. But AA's poison/neurotoxins makes up for where he lacks, and can make fights easier and over with quicker. Still a tough call, but congrats again!

ddom

They're both easily top 5 and arguably top 3 mutants but I think in current Meta, archangel is a hair better

DarkZen

... you cant go wrong with either... AA just takes it for me

Etjama

Woah woah woah, I never said he barely makes the top 10 Mutants 😂. Colossus only has 3 immunities and armor ups. That's literally it for his utility. AA has some of the best heal block and AAR in the game. He's practically the best possible option for anything that's not immune to bleed and poison. It's not a competition.

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Fear_of_Clowns2099

Obviously Archangel is miles better only in fights that can be bled or poisoned or whatever. Colossus usually works in what Archangel can't. I'm a bit biased though I love seeing Colossus hit 20k crits on mediums, which isn't that much but I don't run suicides so it's pretty good for me

Masterpuff

While colossus is tanky and has immunities, he has very little useful utility. Although, he is the best crumbling armor havok counter.

I have used my Colossus in real content since November. This includes Cav EQ and the SQ as well. He just doesnt have use to me.

AA on the other hand has gotten tons of use, due the the reason i listed in my previous comment.

Saiyan

Colossus is better than AA for the SOLE fact that you can use Col in many more places than AA. Bleed or Poison immunity takes AA out of the question in most cases. Other than that when you can apply Toxins then AA is better.

StoNerd

With horsemen, AA easily tops if the the opponent can bleed and poisoned. But in questing there are many champs immune to either one. So I prefer colossus over AA, as he is tanky, got immunities, and hits damn hard. I always check the path if I need to bring AA, for colossus I can just take him without hesitation unless the nodes demand a counter. With OR on the team, the fights will end in under 20hits depending on the health pool.

Although I love to watching the opponents melt while using AA and he just ignores the nodes with AAR.

Ackbar67

They're so different. Archangel requires the opponent to be bled and poisoned, but if they can he'll be fantastic. Colossus can't kill with the speed of Archangel, but he can work for far more fights. If I could only have one I'd have to pick Colossus because he can cover more ground

BuggyDClown

His signature ability turns the table quickly if enemy can be bleeded and poisoned

Fluffy_paws

What suitation we talking? If you're fighting a non-immune fool, then there's no question, AA shreds them apart. You barely need to do anything, if you can land some parries, some heavies you're good to go. His 100% AAR reduction is no joke, he can ignore so many nodes entirely, and neither is how FAST he can melt opponents with that neurotoxin damage.
I'm also sick of hearing the "too many bleed/poison immunes"
There aren't. He covers a ridiculous amount of champs. He is also not useless against just poison immune. Is he the best? Nope. Will he work if you don't need the AAR? Yep.

If you're fighting someone with immunity like idk Luke Cage, then Colossus has the edge, obviously. I am highly biased in any situation involving AA, incase you don't know me, so this is me trying to be unbiased.
Colossus doesn't rely on the bleed/poison vulnerability so he won't really care if it's a Luke Cage or OG Cap.
I mean.. AA CAN do a Luke Cage fight if you don't have some kinda terrible node that gives you shock or poison or whatever that you need his AAR for but I wouldn't reccomend.
Then obviously there's the champs that punish you for bleed that AA can't do since his bleed is unavoidable but Colossus has no bleed. There's also champs that punish you for buffs that AA doesn't care about.
AA isn't ideal for buffed up (he CAN, with synergy and dex, but it is awkward), Colossus loves buffed up.
Diss track& AA is a better time than diss track&Colossus

In short: complicated game is complicated and it's situation dependent but overall, for me because of the AAR, the crazy neuro damage AA>Colossus.

Squirrelguy

100% depends on the opponent. Bleed and poison-able? AA, no question. Bleed or poison immune? Colossus, no question.

I would also definitely rank Colossus in the top 5-7 mutants at least.

Rouger4

AA but by a small margin

Rohit_316

Utility ? No contest .
Damage ? No contest . AA can kill faster than Colossus.

AA doesn't needs a whole bunch of synergies to be good , he walks alone .

Colossus is good ..but just good ..AA is awesome.

Stebo_79

If the opponent bleeds then AA all day. Colossus is a tank though.

Berjibs

If you have omega, easily colossus

Mainzel

Tuff call but imo I can use collosus for more fights. He does not reley on the enemy beeing vulnarable to poison and bleed, he only needs to be able to stun the opponent. But even if he can not stun the opponent he can still do good damage while AA is much harder to play. But then again AA has the aar. I gues the deciding factor for me is that collosus is a bit more reliable since he does not depend on rng as much as aa.
Either way I'd say this is a thing of prefrence. They have like the same playstile but their abilitys are like polare opposits ( one working with buffs, the other with debuffs)

Fear_of_Clowns2099

While colossus is tanky and has immunities, he has very little useful utility. Although, he is the best crumbling armor havok counter.

I have used my Colossus in real content since November. This includes Cav EQ and the SQ as well. He just doesnt have use to me.

AA on the other hand has gotten tons of use, due the the reason i listed in my previous comment.

Did you mean to say you haven't used Colossus or you have used Colossus?