Why you shouldn't vote for Ant Man for Ghost synergy

DiabolicDiabolic Member Posts: 382 ★★
İt's democracy and everyone's own opinion but ,lf anyone gonna vote to antman just because of his synergy I highly recommend don't do it,because if Ant Man get overhaul Kabam I know for 6 years going to change his synergies,so if you think ant man should get rework for itself not for synergies vote him but if you gonna vote just for synergies don't
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  • Shock29Shock29 Member Posts: 590 ★★★
    Diabolic said:

    Antman need this buff

    Yes but not for synergy you should just know his synergy gonna go
    What do you mean go? As in they’ll remove the entire synergy? I don’t think they ever do that to external synergies when buffing champs. They will have to change what the buffed champ gets sometimes because past synergies will give something to a champ that no longer affects them or has any use, sort of like what happened with the Tigra synergy with HtD.
  • No_oneukNo_oneuk Member Posts: 1,430 ★★★★★
    Diabolic said:

    Im voting antman because imo he is soooo bad that he needs the buff the most

    Faseeh said:

    Antman's kit is so trash right now thats its sad. pulling him is a waste of a crystal and you know it

    Shock29 said:

    Yeah but synergy or not Antman is way worse than Jane. Jane has fair buff control, can stun lock, has guaranteed crits, energy and shock resistance, and ok shock damage. Antman has nothing to make him good. Synergies should not be his only use

    Masterdux said:

    I want Ant-man to win the most, but a big part is due to the fact that he is a science champ, and I feel like science is the class that has got the least exciting buffs since the monthly buffs began.

    Plus he is a 2015 champion, so I could use one of my 2015 science rank up gems on him (Remember those?)

    I'm choosing him over Joe Fix It because his animations are cooler IMO and I've seen Ant-Man way more on comics and obviously the MCU.

    Anyone vote for what you guys said is reasonable anyway he is really bad champion,i just saying we shouldn't vote to any champs to synergy teams Btw I thing jane worst one joe second Ant man third
    If you want to really pin down who needs a buff the most, check out Kingslayers video comparing all the candidates vs winter soldier. Joe is by FAR the slowest killer at r5. By a long way.
  • TrashyPandaTrashyPanda Member Posts: 1,574 ★★★★★
    I'm not voting Ant-Man because he's a science character. I yeah I have him, duped too. Also have Ghost, who I use practically every session. I'm also kinda iffy about what utility he'd have.

    Since there's no tech class option, I think AV and Guilly are the best choices. Jane too, but I don't think her kit is as good a base.

    AV got that shrug and AAR that everybody likes. I imagine he'd be like a KP/Xbones hybrid.

    Guilly has heal reversal, healing, and bleeds. She deffo needs a nullify/fateseal, but an enhanced version of her kit sounds like the most fun to me. Especially if they put her at least in-line with SorcSup/Tigra/etc. Mystic class is a bit too dominated by Doom and SuicideClaire, especially on the suicide end.
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  • Ksp_2099Ksp_2099 Member Posts: 735 ★★★
    Tell me a content where one should use Ant-man without synergies.
    Oooohhhh there isn't one.
    Sorry Joe fixit.

    Other options have some uses
    But Antman had literally two lines of ability + glancing mehcnaic which is mostly defensive ability.
    I don't think kabam will mess up the core synergy because last time they mess up the core ability of a character (Hood) they had to change it back.

    One way or another
    My vote is good to Ant-man.
  • AleorAleor Member Posts: 3,103 ★★★★★

    Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff.
    Seriously.
    Buff Ant-Man

    If people already invest that much, he's good enough. I have never seen anybody using ag on 5* or 6* Joe, Jane or AV.
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  • Shock29Shock29 Member Posts: 590 ★★★
    edited April 2021
    Diabolic said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Diabolic said:

    Diabolic said:

    Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff.
    Seriously.
    Buff Ant-Man

    I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
    Jane foster has way more utility compared to ant man, stagger, energy resistance, shock resistance, stun chain, crit damage.

    Ant man has glancing, which leads to slightly less block damage. Fatigue and a poison that deals as much damage as a 1*.

    Ant mans abilities are 3 lines. What are you going to tune up?

    Even if he glanced every hit, applied fatigue on every hit and the poison did nice damage he would still be overwhelmingly mediocre.

    I’m not saying Jane only needs a tune up, but ant man could not possible only need a tune up

    And again, you’re saying he’s guaranteed to have the synergy removed, which is completely unfounded and simply not confirmed.
    Yeah it's not confirmed but we have so many past experience if anything become good kabam immediately remove it
    1. As people keep telling you, Ant-Man doesn't have a synergy with Ghost. Ghost has a synergy with Ant-Man. So no change to Ant-Man can affect the Ghost synergy with Ant-Man. In general Kabam doesn't change all the synergy partners with a champion they update.

    2. Past experience says that champion updates generally work out well for the players. Not only do most champions that are updated become far more playable as attackers, the opposite fear, that they will also become overly potent defenders, tends not to materialize. Consider Hulkbuster, which a lot of people were saying when the update was announced that it would suck for players because as a champion tagged as a "defensive:tank" he wouldn't get a lot of offense, but would instead become an annoying defender. I pointed out that would defeat the purpose of champion updates, which are to make the champions more attractive for players to get and play. Which was in fact how HB was buffed.

    I haven't sat down and counted recently, but I would say the devs are batting better than 80% on champion updates making champions substantially more valuable to play on attack. They don't all become top tier champs, but the vast majority become at least somewhat useful if not highly useful.
    İ don't think it's big problem for kabam they can easily change ghosts synergy
    Kabam doesn’t do that to external synergies. The only thing that would be subject to change in Ghost’s synergy if Antman was buffed is what Antman is receiving via the synergy. Everything else would be very likely to stay the same.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Diabolic said:

    Diabolic said:

    Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff.
    Seriously.
    Buff Ant-Man

    I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
    Jane foster has way more utility compared to ant man, stagger, energy resistance, shock resistance, stun chain, crit damage.

    Ant man has glancing, which leads to slightly less block damage. Fatigue and a poison that deals as much damage as a 1*.

    Ant mans abilities are 3 lines. What are you going to tune up?

    Even if he glanced every hit, applied fatigue on every hit and the poison did nice damage he would still be overwhelmingly mediocre.

    I’m not saying Jane only needs a tune up, but ant man could not possible only need a tune up

    And again, you’re saying he’s guaranteed to have the synergy removed, which is completely unfounded and simply not confirmed.
    Yeah it's not confirmed but we have so many past experience if anything become good kabam immediately remove it
    Name one time Kabam have buffed a champion and taken a synergy away from another champion
  • StevieManWonderStevieManWonder Member Posts: 5,019 ★★★★★
    Diabolic said:

    Look, I have a sig140 5/65 Ant-Man. I used a science awakening gem on him and 120 sig stones on him before I ever pulled him again. I love him and I used to use him all the time alongside my six star Ghost. I’m even the one who nailed down his ideal team for his maximum damage, but damn, he needs a buff.
    Seriously.
    Buff Ant-Man

    I think same he need buff but he can be good with tune up can you imagine his poison 2 times stronger he give more debuffs and glancing all the opponents hits so it means he can be good with tune up because he at least have something and like I said he will no longer have op synergies if he get rework,but can you tell me can jane be good with tune up?She has nothing
    Dude if they changed any of Ghost’s synergies, people would just straight up quit the game. She’s one of the most, if not, the most beloved champs. Kabam wouldn’t mess with her.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,619 ★★★★★
    I'm voting for KK, the same as I voted last time. One day, she'll shake off that Meme status.
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