The idea of putting it behind arena is fine, but the milestones are just out of whack. This would have been a perfect time to bring back the 15K points per arena fight regardless of star level.
It was never about the rewards, it’s about casting ballots. It accomplishes what it was meant for: letting more active players have more sway in the buff choice.
Why didn't you keep an option of 0 though. The rewards are absolutely trash. 30 units for 1.5 mil? Should rewards atleast 200. And some 5 or 6 star or grandmaster shards
It was never about the rewards, it’s about casting ballots. It accomplishes what it was meant for: letting more active players have more sway in the buff choice. How exactly does an outlier of an arena say who plays more than someone else? Even then arena is sometimes just mindless tapping not somewhere where you plan and strategize how to use your champs most effectively to counter the opponent I don’t understand what you mean by outlier of an arena. That’s a comparative statistics term and I don’t see what is being compared. I never said “skilled” players, I said “active” playersWhat I meant in saying that is the general noob who would log in and go “oh, I know Ant Man!” or someone that isn’t in the know would likely not do any arenas and leave the decision making to involved community members, making it a better representation than the general public. People who care will invest time into the arena; those who don’t care will lose their voice. People who demonstrate caring by putting in a bit of time deserve more say than the people who run multiple Alt accounts for login rewards. See the thing your missing about community voting is: you want the community to actually vote. This isn't like beta testing where you simply want a sample size of the community, you should want as much as the community to vote as possible to get the best representation of the entire community. The noobs who choose Ant-Man because he's popular are still players in the community and Kabam wants them to be just as excited about an upcoming buff as the rest of us. That's the whole point of letting the community choose the next buff. To create excitement that wouldn't be generated if Kabam just announced another self selected buff. Your assertion that making votes more effort to place makes it a better representation is the opposite of the truth. It only makes it a more selective representation that puts some opinions above others. Not that it matters here cause it's just a damn game and honestly idc which one gets the buff, but in irl matters adding extra tedious steps to voting that discourages some people from participating to begin with is by definition voter suppression. To be clear, I'm not saying that's what Kabam is doing here cause that's overly dramatic. It's likely just an unforeseen side effect of Kabams terrible arena milestones.(Unforeseen by them at least. I never had hope the milestones would be good when they announced vote by arena)
It was never about the rewards, it’s about casting ballots. It accomplishes what it was meant for: letting more active players have more sway in the buff choice. How exactly does an outlier of an arena say who plays more than someone else? Even then arena is sometimes just mindless tapping not somewhere where you plan and strategize how to use your champs most effectively to counter the opponent I don’t understand what you mean by outlier of an arena. That’s a comparative statistics term and I don’t see what is being compared. I never said “skilled” players, I said “active” playersWhat I meant in saying that is the general noob who would log in and go “oh, I know Ant Man!” or someone that isn’t in the know would likely not do any arenas and leave the decision making to involved community members, making it a better representation than the general public. People who care will invest time into the arena; those who don’t care will lose their voice. People who demonstrate caring by putting in a bit of time deserve more say than the people who run multiple Alt accounts for login rewards.
It was never about the rewards, it’s about casting ballots. It accomplishes what it was meant for: letting more active players have more sway in the buff choice. How exactly does an outlier of an arena say who plays more than someone else? Even then arena is sometimes just mindless tapping not somewhere where you plan and strategize how to use your champs most effectively to counter the opponent
Players with a smaller roster won't be able to cast all the votes, which defeats the purpose of a vote- to grant everyone an equal chance to provide their choice and for everyone's choices to be equally valuable. It's not even like the attached Rewards were any good; yeah, Units are alright, but PHC Shards? Seriously? It was a bad idea to make it an entire Arena, but if they so desperately wanted it to be so then they could've kept a single (or just a couple) of ballots as the first two Milestones and put the Units and GM Shards on the other ones, like the Lei Tai Arena.
Good arena that doesn’t take many points to get the good rewards. I’ve finished and only had to do 2 cycles to get there.
It was never about the rewards, it’s about casting ballots. It accomplishes what it was meant for: letting more active players have more sway in the buff choice. How exactly does an outlier of an arena say who plays more than someone else? Even then arena is sometimes just mindless tapping not somewhere where you plan and strategize how to use your champs most effectively to counter the opponent I don’t understand what you mean by outlier of an arena. That’s a comparative statistics term and I don’t see what is being compared. I never said “skilled” players, I said “active” playersWhat I meant in saying that is the general noob who would log in and go “oh, I know Ant Man!” or someone that isn’t in the know would likely not do any arenas and leave the decision making to involved community members, making it a better representation than the general public. People who care will invest time into the arena; those who don’t care will lose their voice. People who demonstrate caring by putting in a bit of time deserve more say than the people who run multiple Alt accounts for login rewards. See the thing your missing about community voting is: you want the community to actually vote. This isn't like beta testing where you simply want a sample size of the community, you should want as much as the community to vote as possible to get the best representation of the entire community. The noobs who choose Ant-Man because he's popular are still players in the community and Kabam wants them to be just as excited about an upcoming buff as the rest of us. That's the whole point of letting the community choose the next buff. To create excitement that wouldn't be generated if Kabam just announced another self selected buff. Your assertion that making votes more effort to place makes it a better representation is the opposite of the truth. It only makes it a more selective representation that puts some opinions above others. Not that it matters here cause it's just a damn game and honestly idc which one gets the buff, but in irl matters adding extra tedious steps to voting that discourages some people from participating to begin with is by definition voter suppression. To be clear, I'm not saying that's what Kabam is doing here cause that's overly dramatic. It's likely just an unforeseen side effect of Kabams terrible arena milestones.(Unforeseen by them at least. I never had hope the milestones would be good when they announced vote by arena) Players with a smaller roster won't be able to cast all the votes, which defeats the purpose of a vote- to grant everyone an equal chance to provide their choice and for everyone's choices to be equally valuable. It's not even like the attached Rewards were any good; yeah, Units are alright, but PHC Shards? Seriously? It was a bad idea to make it an entire Arena, but if they so desperately wanted it to be so then they could've kept a single (or just a couple) of ballots as the first two Milestones and put the Units and GM Shards on the other ones, like the Lei Tai Arena. Those that care, care. Those that dont, dont. This adds an aspect of 2 sides fighting for their favorite champion to get a buff. And pretty sure every star level champion puts up the same amount of points. Players that want ghost to get buffed now have to grind, and neither side is at a disadvantage. Same thing for players that want guilly to win. If it doesn’t seem fair to you, i can assume you dont want to grind for your champion. This was a great way to balance the votes out imo.
caring about the characters and caring about arena is two different things. this buff doesn't only affect arena, it affects every aspect of the game. no matter which character gets buffed, that new kit now applies to every game mode where you can either use or face against that champion. they're tying a community decision about a game wide character buff to a specific mode that not everyone in the community enjoys or wants to do. just because someone dislikes grinding arena doesn't make their desire to see a champion get buffed less meaningful. you shouldnt have to ``prove your dedication`` to be deemed worthy of having a vote