I think Iron Man (IW)’s Heal Block is bugged [Not bug]

ESF

Hi, folks! Hope all is well!

Just the thread title, for this one. The Heal Block isn’t activating on Heavies or the SP1.

I am on iOS, the newest version.

Thanks!

Ted_n00bgent

The third and final hit employs an Unblockable Blade Arm and inflicts Heal Block for 16 second(s) against targets under the effects of Regeneration.

Are your targets currently under a regeneration effect when you heavy or sp1?

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Ted_n00bgent said:

The third and final hit employs an Unblockable Blade Arm and inflicts Heal Block for 16 second(s) against targets under the effects of Regeneration.

Are your targets currently under a regeneration effect when you heavy or sp1?

I know you think you’re probably helping, and I appreciate it, but yeah, I do kinda think I know how the kit works.

How about we let Kabam handle it?

ESF

The_burrito said:

You lack any info to say it’s bugged or evidence

How about you pop onto the game and check it out?

Kabam Zanzibar

Hey @ESF - It would be really helpful for the team if you could provide as much evidence as possible for a potential bug, including a detailed description of what's happening and ideally either in-game footage or screenshots.

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Kabam Zanzibar said:

Hey @ESF - It would be really helpful for the team if you could provide as much evidence as possible for a potential bug, including a detailed description of what's happening and ideally either in-game footage or screenshots.

It was in the 6-star Featured Arena, Nunchaku, where the opponent had Willpower and Salve active. I run Resonate, which obviously applies Weakness, which triggered their Willpower. I also popped the SP1, which obviously applies Shock, which also triggered their Willpower.

Heal Block never activated on the Heavy or SP1; I noticed it last week during the first Nunchaku Arena.

Player_Slasher

Any gameplay footage or at least screenshots displaying this bug? Ya need some sort of evidence to convince the devs mate

ESF

Zan0 said:

ESF said:

Ted_n00bgent said:

The third and final hit employs an Unblockable Blade Arm and inflicts Heal Block for 16 second(s) against targets under the effects of Regeneration.

Are your targets currently under a regeneration effect when you heavy or sp1?

I know you think you’re probably helping, and I appreciate it, but yeah, I do kinda think I know how the kit works.

How about we let Kabam handle it?

Oh get over yourself

I am totally fine, my man. He wanted to take the time to ask a Noob question in a Bug thread, so I wanted to make it clear that I do, indeed, understand the kit so I don’t keep getting asked variations of the same question

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Zan0 said:

Looks like it does work

We shall see

ESF

Player_Slasher said:

Any gameplay footage or at least screenshots displaying this bug? Ya need some sort of evidence to convince the devs mate

Both my 5/6 are on Cooldown, but I will see if I can replicate when they are off

ESF

More detail:

The reason I think it’s something to do with Iron Man (IW) is because that particular Arena team for me is CapIW, Iron Man IW, and OG Vision.

Since they were the same Arena team, I was fighting the same people who had Willpower and Salve active.

OG Vision’s Heal Block worked totally fine, as it always does, including this last run I made. It was Iron Man’s that didn’t proc.

Ghostboytjie

The heal block doesnt trigger against willpower

Only when the regen Icon is active.

Hope this helps

Player_Slasher

Ted_n00bgent said:

The third and final hit employs an Unblockable Blade Arm and inflicts Heal Block for 16 second(s) against targets under the effects of Regeneration.

Are your targets currently under a regeneration effect when you heavy or sp1?

This. The Regeneration needs to be active on the opponent, which means they have to have the Regen icon (Buff or Passive), so Willpower and Salve do not count since they are not active effects.

Player_Slasher

Just tested against Sabretooth and it works

ESF

Player_Slasher said:

Ted_n00bgent said:

The third and final hit employs an Unblockable Blade Arm and inflicts Heal Block for 16 second(s) against targets under the effects of Regeneration.

Are your targets currently under a regeneration effect when you heavy or sp1?

This. The Regeneration needs to be active on the opponent, which means they have to have the Regen icon (Buff or Passive), so Willpower and Salve do not count since they are not active effects.

Whoa whoa whoa — hold up. Since when has there needed to be a Regen icon? This has always been my experience, whether it’s Active/Passive, icon or not:

ESF

The above sequence is why I wanted Kabam to answer the question about whether it’s bugged: I appreciate people trying to explain things, but people trying to tell me how the kit works, then saying that you need Icons when I can show you that you don’t, isn’t helpful.

There’s no reason why Deadpool’s Passive Regen should be able to be heal blocked, if Willpower and Salve aren’t. There are no icons for either. They are both Passive.

Most importantly, Iron Man IW’s description doesn’t distinguish between Active or Passive Regeneration, and I have used it on both, with or without Icons.

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Haji_Saab said:

Yes, there is a consistency problem here.

it doesn't work against Salve and willpower. So that either needs to be fixed or description clarified.

That is why this was so frustrating. I get how the boards are, and I didn’t write a long initial post with much detail because I never know in Bugs/Suggestions forums how much detail is required. I have no idea what Kabam does or doesn’t know — I did search first — and I tried to be polite

It’s like some people live on the boards, trying to explain how much you don’t understand and trying to prove you are wrong

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The_burrito said:

The thing is you just said it’s bugged and wanted us to know what you were talking about

You didn’t provide use or describe what you were saying just for future reference since the lack of evidence creates discord between people

It’s been like that for a while if not his intro, I don’t remember when his heal block did trigger agaisnt Will power, it works for og Deadpool’s regen which would make sense for it to work for both

I feel like this: I understand some people really want to be helpful, and I do appreciate that.

And I honestly am not one of those people who looks for bugs and problems around every corner. I am not a “Gotcha” person who lives for other people’s mistakes — as I said, I noticed it last week and didn’t come running to the boards.

But when people who aren’t Kabam employees start talking about the mechanics of the game and say “it works,” when they clearly haven’t tested all of the interactions, how does that help anyone?

The “Active/Passive Icon” response either isn’t accurate or Deadpool is an exception. And again, either way is fine.

But there are other instances in the game where I have Heal Blocked without icons, so I don’t think that is accurate, and I just wanted to know if it was bugged.

That’s all I want to know

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Zan0 said:

The problem you have is being so arrogant and saying people are wrong to comment on your thread when all you said in your original post was "think it is bugged"

If you don’t think it’s arrogant for players who didn’t design the game to demand you explain to them before you even get a response from Kabam about what they want to know — if anything — we disagree about how to communicate

Because at the end of it, none of us know if it’s bugged unless we designed it

Player_Slasher

Mate if you don't want anyone commenting on your post, take this to Kabam support and not the forums. When you start with literally only "I think it is bugged" with no additional info, obviously questions will be asked. That's how a forum works buddy.

Greywarden

Heal block doesn't work on willpower healing on debuffs, only for an active or passive heal buff. Might want to add that to the imiw book you're trying to write since you're the expert.

Djin

I don't know if I did the testing right or not, but IMIW seems to be bugged.




Red Skull can block the willpower regen but IMIW can't.

Greywarden

Djin said:

I don't know if I did the testing right or not, but IMIW seems to be bugged.




Red Skull can block the willpower regen but IMIW can't.

Read their abilities. IMIW's heal block on heavy says if under the effects of regeneration whereas Red Skull's says inflicts a heal block (no condition).

ESF

Greywarden said:

Djin said:

I don't know if I did the testing right or not, but IMIW seems to be bugged.




Red Skull can block the willpower regen but IMIW can't.

Read their abilities. IMIW's heal block on heavy says if under the effects of regeneration whereas Red Skull's says inflicts a heal block (no condition).

Hey, Internet Tough Guy, I can read. As a matter of fact, I read this:

Djin

Greywarden said:

Djin said:

I don't know if I did the testing right or not, but IMIW seems to be bugged.




Red Skull can block the willpower regen but IMIW can't.

Read their abilities. IMIW's heal block on heavy says if under the effects of regeneration whereas Red Skull's says inflicts a heal block (no condition).

So you're telling Willpower healing doesn't act as a regen effect?
Seems weird to me. But this can be the explanation.