Buff PHOENIX??????

BzeeBzee Posts: 195 ★★
edited July 22 in General Discussion
Such a Powerful character in the movie and comics...not so much in game .. should phoenix get a magneto level buff? What does the community think?

Buff PHOENIX?????? 126 votes

Yes
78%
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No
8%
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Cant say
12%
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Comments

  • ItsDamienItsDamien Posts: 3,882 ★★★★★
    Cant say
    Magneto level won't happen. But yes, she should get a buff at some point.
  • Total_Domin01Total_Domin01 Posts: 8
    No
    She's got a great synergy with prof X, leads to some hefty damage

  • Andyball270Andyball270 Posts: 303 ★★★
    Yes
    Shes one of the most iconic characters in Marvel and one of the most powerful as well. There are defo other champs that are grossly underpowered compared to the source material, Sentry being one, and deserve a buff but she would be one of the ones i would love to see. Also i have her r3 sig 200 lol
  • ŁŤÇŁŤÇ Posts: 210 ★★
    Yes

    Shes one of the most iconic characters in Marvel and one of the most powerful as well. There are defo other champs that are grossly underpowered compared to the source material, Sentry being one, and deserve a buff but she would be one of the ones i would love to see. Also i have her r3 sig 200 lol

    @Andyball270 definitely not a prestige rankup, right? Haha
  • Andyball270Andyball270 Posts: 303 ★★★
    Yes
    ŁŤÇ said:

    Shes one of the most iconic characters in Marvel and one of the most powerful as well. There are defo other champs that are grossly underpowered compared to the source material, Sentry being one, and deserve a buff but she would be one of the ones i would love to see. Also i have her r3 sig 200 lol

    @Andyball270 definitely not a prestige rankup, right? Haha
    Well i defo didnt do it based on her kit :D:D
  • ChobblyChobbly Posts: 168
    edited July 22
    Yes
    Definitely - full overhaul is not needed IMHO but value plus tweaks would be good. She's definitely a forgotten champ by many.

    It's like to see something like this for a start:

    Whenever Phoenix would suffer from an Incinerate Debuff, her altered state removes it and has a 100% chance to convert it to a Phoenix Force Charge.
  • Negative_100Negative_100 Posts: 1,498 ★★★★
    The game isn't based on their power in the comics
  • ChaosMax1012ChaosMax1012 Posts: 1,411 ★★★★
    Bzee said:

    She's got a great synergy with prof X, leads to some hefty damage


    In that case they shouldn't buff og guilly as well lol
    Or sym spidey
  • BendyBendy Posts: 1,682 ★★★★
    Yes
    I only say buff phoenix in terms of moderate buff since thats what i think she would need more since she should do more with the phoenix force add some immunities make her not have to do heavy let her always apply incinerates on say the 5th hit than 5 fury buffs or even on crits add armor break on sp2 after sp2 convert incinerates into passive
  • Onurre2Onurre2 Posts: 56
    Soooo, are you BG ?? :smiley:
  • HughJanisoleHughJanisole Posts: 470 ★★★
    Yes
    ItsDamien said:

    Magneto level won't happen. But yes, she should get a buff at some point.

    No one could’ve imagined they would give red Mags as much power and dominance as they did so anything’s possible.
  • BzeeBzee Posts: 195 ★★
    Yes

    Looks like somebody already did it:


    Ah, DeviantArt. Pinnacle of class.

    Thats looks solid haha
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Posts: 6,421 ★★★★★
    Yes
    -Make her rotation less stressful and much easier
    -Add the Emma Frost synergy to her base kit
    -Give her some utility
    -Tuneup the potency of fury buffs
  • Geralt_123Geralt_123 Posts: 486 ★★★
    Cant say
    Now buff needed for Thor,Thor(Jane Foster) and Sentry!
    Then I will support any other buff thread.
  • Dark89PhoenixDark89Phoenix Posts: 163
    Yes
    Yes....PLEASE!! A while back I suggested that if they did buff her, they could do her SP3 similar to the way they did Void's, Sentry's, etc. She could turn into the Dark Phoenix at that point, and the back into regular Phoenix after the attack. Something to think about right?
  • GrandOldKaiGrandOldKai Posts: 114
    Yes

    Yes....PLEASE!! A while back I suggested that if they did buff her, they could do her SP3 similar to the way they did Void's, Sentry's, etc. She could turn into the Dark Phoenix at that point, and the back into regular Phoenix after the attack. Something to think about right?

    That, or Dark Phoenix could be... a prefight? I don't know.

    Don't want to create another Odin situation where the champion is only strong every other fight, so I don't know how they'd do it.
  • DawsManDawsMan Posts: 1,433 ★★★★
    First 4 star on the baby account. At r4 she was doing some great damage on sp3 with 10 furies and you can cycle sp1 sp2
  • WordunkenWordunken Posts: 148
    Cant say
    personally she needs a buff , yes.

    she can be decent if you make her rotation independant of fifty timers and static attack patterns
    rotate for sp2, and sp1 peak and hopefully nice charged heavies and fat sp3, while hoping for no power control, special lock/hinderance in any capacity , no downtime, potential loss of ramp(while having 0 things in her kit to keep these things from happening. (shehulks passive taunt on her furies can be a great example)
    having no immunities , nothing but fury buffs in general fights, almost 0 utility (she can have some decent things from her synergies but for me she has 0).

    but the mags level buffs can be bad for core aspect of this game(fighting game)
    there is some specific errors in mags design personally.

    1.
    he wants to fight specificly tagged champions which feels alien.(not for mags but for the game)
    this makes people to question just a text on champ like dimensional beeing or metal.(ah they made him non metal just for this blah blah blah)

    2.
    he is kinda the best if he fits and probably a bit bad if he isnt targeting specific champs.
    which forces you to play him and this makes the top champ everyone plays situation a bit worse.(doom,mags,blade you get it)

    3.
    he is very strict and direct at what he does.
    he needs to heavy to get prowess, so this brings you to pary someone and heavy him and he has everything in his kit to do this insanely well.which kills any atack combo varient (mm,mlllm from increased stun or m,h just has nothing dfferent from a single h)

    4.
    beeing this linear makes him either work or deosnt work, there is just no middle ground or arguing to be made.
    (he can be shotdown very easily too, but thanks to his aa reduct he can bypass these sometimes)

    5.
    and beeing that good in some parts of his kit completely kills other parts of his kit.(if you can use any other special other than sp1 you will use it instead).

    these arent thecnically bad. but using mags feels like another game than using any other champ.

    normally ı would not write this but crosbones had me worried.
    like collosus is an exceptional buff but everyone talks about mag.
    ı understand magneto level buff doesnt mean magneto like playstyle but ı hate the "MaGNetO LEvEl BuFf" term.
    every champ suffering deserves a beastly buff but ı dont want buffs to be bunch of mags and nonmags to come over for these 2 or 3 years.
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