Can you no longer reverse power gain?

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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
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  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    Congrats on proving yourself wrong?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    You said less than 0 bars of power. Zibiit said negative combat power rate. In what universe are they the same thing?

    You’ve said the sky is red, Zibiit came in and said the sky is blue. And you’ve gone, “You see? I have been proved right”.
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  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power =/= Combat Power Rate

    And I've never expected anything from you.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Can you actually explain your thought process on how combat power rate going negative and reversing, means lower than 0 bars? I mean this in no argumentative way, I just don’t know how you’ve come to the conclusion that you’re right.
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  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power =/= Combat Power Rate

    And I've never expected anything from you.
    Power = Combat Power Gain =/= Power Gain

    But I don't expect you to understand this
    Then explain it in clear and precise detail if people aren't understanding. Right now you've thrown out words with no explanation.
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    For some more proof that this I how the game works as well:

    Act 7.1.2 Vivified Lane.
    What do you think this means? It's not even possible to interpret this node with your logic. Go and do a fight, you'll notice that defender gains a ton of power per hit which is because combat power rate is what we have been saying it is.
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★
    ItsDamien said:

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power =/= Combat Power Rate

    And I've never expected anything from you.
    Power = Combat Power Gain =/= Power Gain

    But I don't expect you to understand this
    Then explain it in clear and precise detail if people aren't understanding. Right now you've thrown out words with no explanation.
    Not to mention it's completely wrong
  • TheBair123TheBair123 Member Posts: 5,344 ★★★★★

    Please focus on the topic, rather than arguing amongst yourselves like this.

    Why not just confirm what the interaction is. That response just makes me laugh.

    here's the response from zibit on my thread. it's a combat power rate thing, and not a power gain thing. void should be fine
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  • magnus_xixmagnus_xix Member Posts: 2,019 ★★★★★

    Please focus on the topic, rather than arguing amongst yourselves like this.

    Why not just confirm what the interaction is. That response just makes me laugh.
    They did?
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    For some more proof that this I how the game works as well:

    Act 7.1.2 Vivified Lane.
    What do you think this means? It's not even possible to interpret this node with your logic. Go and do a fight, you'll notice that defender gains a ton of power per hit which is because combat power rate is what we have been saying it is.
    That's Defensive Combat Power Rate. Not Power Combat Rate. Power Combat Rate is the Offensive and Defensive together. You don't even know the difference...
    Then explain how negative combat power gain means power below 0 bars. That’s what you said.
  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    For some more proof that this I how the game works as well:

    Act 7.1.2 Vivified Lane.
    What do you think this means? It's not even possible to interpret this node with your logic. Go and do a fight, you'll notice that defender gains a ton of power per hit which is because combat power rate is what we have been saying it is.
    That's Defensive Combat Power Rate. Not Power Combat Rate. Power Combat Rate is the Offensive and Defensive together. You don't even know the difference...
    Defensive combat power rate is the power rate from getting hit, blocking,etc. Offensive combat power rate is the power rate from hitting the opponent, etc. You don't get both at the same time otherwise everyone would have 200% powerate from everything you do. To test this, go and do a fight in 7.1.2 in the path I mentioned, you'll notice that defender doesn't gain as much from attacking as they do from getting hit. So, my point still stands through this.

    There's also this node in the game:


  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power =/= Combat Power Rate

    And I've never expected anything from you.
    Power = Combat Power Gain =/= Power Gain

    But I don't expect you to understand this

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  • The_Sentry06The_Sentry06 Member Posts: 7,787 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    For some more proof that this I how the game works as well:

    Act 7.1.2 Vivified Lane.
    What do you think this means? It's not even possible to interpret this node with your logic. Go and do a fight, you'll notice that defender gains a ton of power per hit which is because combat power rate is what we have been saying it is.
    That's Defensive Combat Power Rate. Not Power Combat Rate. Power Combat Rate is the Offensive and Defensive together. You don't even know the difference...
    Defensive combat power rate is the power rate from getting hit, blocking,etc. Offensive combat power rate is the power rate from hitting the opponent, etc. You don't get both at the same time otherwise everyone would have 200% powerate from everything you do. To test this, go and do a fight in 7.1.2 in the path I mentioned, you'll notice that defender doesn't gain as much from attacking as they do from getting hit. So, my point still stands through this.

    There's also this node in the game:


    What do you mean you don't get both, offensive and defensive combat power rate together? You just posted a screenshot of a node that proves you wrong. Energize 1 and 2, are increasing the Power Combat Rate by 100% and 200%. Vivified only increases Defensive Power Combat Rate by 200%
    I'm done explaining to you. Maybe try and read and comprehend what others are saying instead of trying to go on a streak of trying to prove that you are right and others are wrong. You'll eventually figure it out. Power rate, be it offensive or defensive functions the same. I've also noticed how you have no counter-arguement to the overall point everyone's been making but rather this whole offensive/defensive thingy which you yourself are confused.
  • UvoginUvogin Member Posts: 345 ★★★
    edited August 2021

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power =/= Combat Power Rate

    And I've never expected anything from you.
    Power = Combat Power Gain =/= Power Gain

    But I don't expect you to understand this
    If you have -ve combat power gain and you go from 2 bars of power to 1 bar of power, you're combat power gain is -ve but you power is still +ve, so no Power =/= Combat Power Gain.
    what you're comparing is like saying displacement is same as velocity
  • Furious_Fighter1Furious_Fighter1 Member Posts: 855 ★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power means the amount of Power youcurrently sit on. For example a bar of power or 2 bars of power or 3 bars of power.
    Combat power rate is the amount of Power you gain for each hit (given/offensive or taken/defensive).
    No way they both are same.
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  • Mr_PlatypusMr_Platypus Member Posts: 2,779 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power means the amount of Power youcurrently sit on. For example a bar of power or 2 bars of power or 3 bars of power.
    Combat power rate is the amount of Power you gain for each hit (given/offensive or taken/defensive).
    No way they both are same.
    So I guess I am the only one who with Power means Combat Power Rate?
    I call the other thing Power Meter, not just Power.
    Just you.
    Everyone I’ve ever spoken to refers to it as power (eg 1 bar of power. push them over a bar of power).
    Combat power rate is how much power you gain from hitting or being hit and referring to it as just power leads to confusion very easily as now no one knows if you mean combat power gain or passive power gain.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power means the amount of Power youcurrently sit on. For example a bar of power or 2 bars of power or 3 bars of power.
    Combat power rate is the amount of Power you gain for each hit (given/offensive or taken/defensive).
    No way they both are same.
    So I guess I am the only one who with Power means Combat Power Rate?
    I call the other thing Power Meter, not just Power.
    Just you.
    Everyone I’ve ever spoken to refers to it as power (eg 1 bar of power. push them over a bar of power).
    Combat power rate is how much power you gain from hitting or being hit and referring to it as just power leads to confusion very easily as now no one knows if you mean combat power gain or passive power gain.
    Plus the whole thing about saying negative power was going below 0 bars of power
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★

    When they say negative power they probably mean lower then 0 bars of power. If it was otherwise they should have said reversed

    But it doesn’t say negative power, it says negative power gain. As in the power gain no longer is positive and going up, it’s now negative.

    Hey there, to confirm, this is only for Combat Power Rate; Ability Power Rate isn't affected by this. The team will work on making this more clear in the patch notes.

    You see?
    That’s literally not what you said
    You really can't read right?
    Can you? It isn't negative power gain but neither does it mean negative power. Combat power rate usually refers to the power you get from hitting, blocking, etc.
    What do you think that power means? Combat Power Rate. But I don't expect much from you...
    Power means the amount of Power youcurrently sit on. For example a bar of power or 2 bars of power or 3 bars of power.
    Combat power rate is the amount of Power you gain for each hit (given/offensive or taken/defensive).
    No way they both are same.
    So I guess I am the only one who with Power means Combat Power Rate?
    I call the other thing Power Meter, not just Power.
    so if someone were to ask you, "how much power did the opponent have?", do you respond with ,"110% combat power rate adjusted for rank up increase"?
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