Is Angela's awakened ability useless against passive dmg?

rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
edited August 2021 in Strategy and Tips
Would her ability work against Rising Sun node?

Rising Sun - Land a hit (any hit other than a heavy attack), you get a +2.5% damage fury per hit, when you reach 10 of these furies, you'll get a passive degeneration. Doing a heavy attack removes all fury.
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  • ItsDamienItsDamien Member Posts: 5,626 ★★★★★
    Passive Damage Effects aren't Damaging Debuff Effects.

    So no. She doesn't prevent any passive damage.
  • MCOCHazzaMCOCHazza Member Posts: 897 ★★★
    It works for icarus because icarus apples degeneration debuffs.

    However rising sun applies passive degenerations which aren’t targeted by Angela’s sig as mentioned.
  • Scarcity27Scarcity27 Member Posts: 1,906 ★★★★★
    Terra said:

    It works against Icarus so I'd assume so?

    Icarus isn't passive damage, tho. I don't think it works against Rising Sun. I remember an earlier thread on this where it said so.
  • PulyamanPulyaman Member Posts: 2,365 ★★★★★
    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    How many other champs can reduce the duration of every single debuff? The sig stones are not wasted. Passive damage is something very few champs can ignore. By your logic, Gulk is the only champ who is special because he can mitigate the passive damage.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    TheBair123 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    Nothing special is the opposite of what she is. We literally just told you how she works. If you didn’t know that already, why did you put sig stones into her?
    No need to be so angry, it's Sunday, relax a little.

    She is nothing special for my roster, many champs reduce or shrug debuffs.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    How many other champs can reduce the duration of every single debuff? The sig stones are not wasted. Passive damage is something very few champs can ignore. By your logic, Gulk is the only champ who is special because he can mitigate the passive damage.
    From my roster, many can counter debuffs.

    Moleman, Nick Fury, CapIW, Kingpin

    Namor can even dmg back if I stay aggresive enough.

    Hit monkey can shrug off debuffs too.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    Neev_4321 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    What did I just read, my eyes are bleeding
    Why would your eyes bleed.

    She's nothing special for a decently advanced roster.
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  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    Worknprogress said:

    rockykoston said:

    Neev_4321 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    What did I just read, my eyes are bleeding
    Why would your eyes bleed.

    She's nothing special for a decently advanced roster.
    Well how did you get to the point of having this super roster of yours without learning how to read champ abilities yet?
    You don't have to be a mcoc nut to get a great roster tbh, it's just a mobile game that needs you to know how to fight.

    My alliance does a great job of analyzing champs and I just ask them when I'm in doubt about something. I posted here because everyone's enjoying their Sunday.
  • rockykostonrockykoston Member Posts: 1,505 ★★★★
    Pulyaman said:

    rockykoston said:

    Pulyaman said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    How many other champs can reduce the duration of every single debuff? The sig stones are not wasted. Passive damage is something very few champs can ignore. By your logic, Gulk is the only champ who is special because he can mitigate the passive damage.
    From my roster, many can counter debuffs.

    Moleman, Nick Fury, CapIW, Kingpin

    Namor can even dmg back if I stay aggresive enough.

    Hit monkey can shrug off debuffs too.
    Those are very situational. Moleman cannot shrug once he reaches frenzy, Nick needs to knock down the defender, CAIW needs skill synergy, Kingpin needs Hood synergy to be guaranteed. Hitmonkey also needs to be in some phase, I forgot which one. All of them you mentioned also shrug off non-damaging debuffs, which may not be ideal. Angela only speeds up damaging ones. She also needs no synergy to do this. I am not saying all the champs you mentioned don't work, just that Angela has some unique mechanic that none of the champs you mentioned have. Only champs that can shrug off debuffs faster than normal are Karnak( needs dupe), Groot, Rogue, Blade( Full power - 95% reduction) and Beast( Only bleeds) as far as I remember. So, she is pretty special in that regard. Your sigs are not wasted my friend.
    Sounds all good and I agree.

    My r5 moleman disagrees, he's just a versatile champ and yes with the right synergies he's unstoppable. Guardian for block proficiency, Nick Fury, CAIW.

    I didn't even mention my r3 invisible woman who negates a lot of debuff damage with her shield.

    But yes probably you're right, Angela has something unique but it needs a high sig to be effective.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    rockykoston said:

    Neev_4321 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    What did I just read, my eyes are bleeding
    Why would your eyes bleed.

    She's nothing special for a decently advanced roster.
    She has refreshable armor ups for Havok, fury buffs for that one poison node I’m forgetting the name of, armor break, good damage, nullify-proof, dot debuff-proof, autoblock-proof, projectile parry, and has 150% of her stated health bar with her regen buffs. I’m not super end game, but I’m advanced enough to know she is very handy for lots of different stuff. She’s no Ghost or CAIW, but she is very reliable in most areas, and doesn’t rely on blocking or not facing true sense to get by with her debuff shortening. Source: have her 6* duped r3.

    Not to mention she obliterates most cosmic cavEQs
  • TerraTerra Member Posts: 8,505 ★★★★★
    Hammerbro_64 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Neev_4321 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    What did I just read, my eyes are bleeding
    Why would your eyes bleed.

    She's nothing special for a decently advanced roster.
    She has refreshable armor ups for Havok, fury buffs for that one poison node I’m forgetting the name of, armor break, good damage, nullify-proof, dot debuff-proof, autoblock-proof, projectile parry, and has 150% of her stated health bar with her regen buffs. I’m not super end game, but I’m advanced enough to know she is very handy for lots of different stuff. She’s no Ghost or CAIW, but she is very reliable in most areas, and doesn’t rely on blocking or not facing true sense to get by with her debuff shortening. Source: have her 6* duped r3.

    Not to mention she obliterates most cosmic cavEQs
    Caustic Temper?
  • LovekLovek Member Posts: 216 ★★★
    Angela is a god now. and her abilities is so great. she is perfect like it.
  • Hammerbro_64Hammerbro_64 Member Posts: 7,463 ★★★★★
    Terra said:

    Hammerbro_64 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Neev_4321 said:

    rockykoston said:

    Hazzalec1 said:

    Angela’s sig ability applies a reduction in damaging debuff duration. This only affects damaging debuffs, and as such, passive effects, and non-damaging debuffs are unaffected.

    For example, nick fury’s bleed debuffs would have reduced duration.

    However, mojo’s passive degen, or the rising sun node degen, wouldn’t.

    Additionally, fatigue, concussion and all the other debuffs that don’t deal damage, are not reduced either.

    Hope this helps you understand!

    Thank you.

    This totally makes her nothing special. I'm sad to have wasted my sig stones.
    What did I just read, my eyes are bleeding
    Why would your eyes bleed.

    She's nothing special for a decently advanced roster.
    She has refreshable armor ups for Havok, fury buffs for that one poison node I’m forgetting the name of, armor break, good damage, nullify-proof, dot debuff-proof, autoblock-proof, projectile parry, and has 150% of her stated health bar with her regen buffs. I’m not super end game, but I’m advanced enough to know she is very handy for lots of different stuff. She’s no Ghost or CAIW, but she is very reliable in most areas, and doesn’t rely on blocking or not facing true sense to get by with her debuff shortening. Source: have her 6* duped r3.

    Not to mention she obliterates most cosmic cavEQs
    Caustic Temper?
    That’s the one ty ty
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