Time for a CQC Challenge with Shang-Chi!

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  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Carmel1 said:

    A game should be fun but I don't find it enjoyable when not only there are 2-3 champs that can beat it but also the play style of hitting only through block.
    It was also boring to watch YouTubers so I can't even imagine how it feel to actually run it.
    When you see top YouTubers burn items and frustrated during the quest, you know this one is not for you...
    It should have been a local node on one defender at most, but not as global node. (both for close encounters and invade)

    And if someone say it was a fun quest, I don't believe him... maybe he's confuse about having fun playing it or happy it finally over.

    I used Gambit as a horseman and Nick fury. I really enjoyed it actually, but if you don’t believe me, that’s fine I guess? I suppose I must be lying.

    It challenges you to not use block, if that’s outside your comfort zone and you didn’t enjoy then fair enough. But I did enjoy it.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,329 ★★★★★
    Carmel1 said:

    A game should be fun but I don't find it enjoyable when not only there are 2-3 champs that can beat it but also the play style of hitting only through block.
    It was also boring to watch YouTubers so I can't even imagine how it feel to actually run it.
    When you see top YouTubers burn items and frustrated during the quest, you know this one is not for you...
    It should have been a local node on one defender at most, but not as global node. (both for close encounters and invade)

    And if someone say it was a fun quest, I don't believe him... maybe he's confuse about having fun playing it or happy it finally over.

    2-3 champs that can beat it? Nonsense.
  • CoatHang3rCoatHang3r Member Posts: 4,965 ★★★★★
    Ebony_Naw said:

    A bit drastic to say just because of one Node.

    Not when you consider that this node is more likely than not going to show up in a significant portion of endgame content, especially since Kabam said that the purpose of this node is to counter Quake and Ghost.
    Werewrym said:

    Seraphion said:

    Ghost was my easy R4 choice a few months ago.

    I guess I shouldn't do that anymore.
    True focus global node in 7.3 and next V too?

    Really lame kabam...

    It's absolutely not worth investing in Ghost past r3 anymore. P2099 would be a better tech r4 than her now.
    What do you have against P2099? He's quite good these days.
    Nothing, that was a genuine statement. I have had mine at 6r3 ever since his buff and use him more often than I use Ghost nowadays.
    We don't need to hear that statement over and over. It's not even exact.
    Will it show up? Most likely. All the time? Not necessarily, no. It's a new Node, so it's going to be used, especially at the moment. When that isn't a challenge anymore, it will be something else. Change is the only constant in this game.
    Not really sure how that's relevant to anything I said, but okay.
    The statement that they created the Node to deal with Quake and Ghost explicitly is not accurate. That was never stated in those words.
    As for the rest of my comment, it applies when you're saying it's always going to be in content. That's an exaggeration.
    It's the newest challenge. It won't be in everything.
    When they released the node, they said it was because “two champs have dominated the meta”.
    Where did they say that? I don’t see them saying anything when the node was introduced. The only time they’ve addressed the nodes use was in a specific piece of content, aw boss island, which was some time after it first appeared. There, aw boss island, it is used to counter some specific champions but in general it’s used to counter evade and miss, saying it’s intent is ubiquitously or solely for ghost and quake is a mighty assumption.

    Carry on.
    You don’t really believe that, do you? We never see true strike anymore. We never see vigilance. Why not try to counter auto block once in a while? It’s always true focus. What is so OP about miss and evade that they need to be neutered? Other than the fact that it takes out quake and ghost in a single stone.

    We know when they are trying to counter ghost and quake they use true focus. We can also understand wanting to counter both in this challenge. It doesn’t take a quantum physicist to conclude intent of a true focus global.
    It’s not some great leap to think that when Kabam gives every champion unblockable specials they might not want Players ignoring those with Miles and Gwen.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,329 ★★★★★
    edited September 2021

    xNig said:

    Carmel1 said:

    A game should be fun but I don't find it enjoyable when not only there are 2-3 champs that can beat it but also the play style of hitting only through block.
    It was also boring to watch YouTubers so I can't even imagine how it feel to actually run it.
    When you see top YouTubers burn items and frustrated during the quest, you know this one is not for you...
    It should have been a local node on one defender at most, but not as global node. (both for close encounters and invade)

    And if someone say it was a fun quest, I don't believe him... maybe he's confuse about having fun playing it or happy it finally over.

    2-3 champs that can beat it? Nonsense.
    sure, every champ can theoretically beat it since there is nothing truly restricting any champ like bleed or required conditions. but how many can feasibly do it without requiring absurd ai cooperation and luck?

    only champs i've seen are thing, aegon(this is whom i used) and corvus, and diablo for shang chi
    That’s because you’ve “seen” too little. Or the people you associate with that play this game have very limited scope in champ usage.

    I used Elsa / Tigra / Gulk / NF / KM on my main, and Elsa / Gulk / NF / Aarkus / BWCV on my alt. Weird that you’ve seen none of the champs used. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I can assure you though, after exploring it twice, it isn’t luck.
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,157 ★★★★★
    I liked the combination of the nodes except close encounters and invade together.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,329 ★★★★★


    Ohhh check out that mountain of salt lol
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    xNig said:

    xNig said:

    Carmel1 said:

    A game should be fun but I don't find it enjoyable when not only there are 2-3 champs that can beat it but also the play style of hitting only through block.
    It was also boring to watch YouTubers so I can't even imagine how it feel to actually run it.
    When you see top YouTubers burn items and frustrated during the quest, you know this one is not for you...
    It should have been a local node on one defender at most, but not as global node. (both for close encounters and invade)

    And if someone say it was a fun quest, I don't believe him... maybe he's confuse about having fun playing it or happy it finally over.

    2-3 champs that can beat it? Nonsense.
    sure, every champ can theoretically beat it since there is nothing truly restricting any champ like bleed or required conditions. but how many can feasibly do it without requiring absurd ai cooperation and luck?

    only champs i've seen are thing, aegon(this is whom i used) and corvus, and diablo for shang chi
    That’s because you’ve “seen” too little. Or the people you associate with that play this game have very limited scope in champ usage.

    I used Elsa / Tigra / Gulk / NF / KM on my main, and Elsa / Gulk / NF / Aarkus / BWCV on my alt. Weird that you’ve seen none of the champs used. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I can assure you though, after exploring it twice, it isn’t luck.
    i stand corrected. it was short sightedness on my part and unwillingness to try other champsions.
  • Thanos1149Thanos1149 Member Posts: 1,136 ★★★
    Almost everyone who’s completed it has said that Aegon or Corvus or even both were their MVP’s, so if someone doesn’t have either of them at a good rarity/ranked up and isn’t extremely skilled, then it’s gonna be a revive fest for them. It would have been so much better without invade or close encounters, not both because it would have been too easy then ngl. Since close encounters was there in the previous quests and they liked continuing the previous nodes in all the quests after the respective quest, they should have at least removed invade. But we did get some great rewards in the first chapter we almost no effort, so I’m not gonna complain much.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,329 ★★★★★

    xNig said:

    xNig said:

    Carmel1 said:

    A game should be fun but I don't find it enjoyable when not only there are 2-3 champs that can beat it but also the play style of hitting only through block.
    It was also boring to watch YouTubers so I can't even imagine how it feel to actually run it.
    When you see top YouTubers burn items and frustrated during the quest, you know this one is not for you...
    It should have been a local node on one defender at most, but not as global node. (both for close encounters and invade)

    And if someone say it was a fun quest, I don't believe him... maybe he's confuse about having fun playing it or happy it finally over.

    2-3 champs that can beat it? Nonsense.
    sure, every champ can theoretically beat it since there is nothing truly restricting any champ like bleed or required conditions. but how many can feasibly do it without requiring absurd ai cooperation and luck?

    only champs i've seen are thing, aegon(this is whom i used) and corvus, and diablo for shang chi
    That’s because you’ve “seen” too little. Or the people you associate with that play this game have very limited scope in champ usage.

    I used Elsa / Tigra / Gulk / NF / KM on my main, and Elsa / Gulk / NF / Aarkus / BWCV on my alt. Weird that you’ve seen none of the champs used. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I can assure you though, after exploring it twice, it isn’t luck.
    i stand corrected. it was short sightedness on my part and unwillingness to try other champsions.
    I find that, no offence to you, most of the community likes to pigeon hole themselves into the “if I do not have xxx or yyy champ, I won’t be able to do this quest” mindset. It’s self inflicting and honestly, quite dumb, simply because it puts a laziness cap on themselves for not wanting to “think” and wanting to “follow” instead.

    Trust me, once you get out of that mindset, you’ll see a whole world of puzzle challenges that the game offers that can be overcomes by a large portion of defenders, and skill.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    Almost everyone who’s completed it has said that Aegon or Corvus or even both were their MVP’s, so if someone doesn’t have either of them at a good rarity/ranked up and isn’t extremely skilled, then it’s gonna be a revive fest for them. It would have been so much better without invade or close encounters, not both because it would have been too easy then ngl. Since close encounters was there in the previous quests and they liked continuing the previous nodes in all the quests after the respective quest, they should have at least removed invade. But we did get some great rewards in the first chapter we almost no effort, so I’m not gonna complain much.

    Breaking news! Difficult content with great rewards is difficult !


    I used horseman gambit and Nick fury. There are plenty of options if you use your roster. If you don’t have the options, maybe this one isn’t for you.

  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,512 ★★★★★

    Almost everyone who’s completed it has said that Aegon or Corvus or even both were their MVP’s, so if someone doesn’t have either of them at a good rarity/ranked up and isn’t extremely skilled, then it’s gonna be a revive fest for them. It would have been so much better without invade or close encounters, not both because it would have been too easy then ngl. Since close encounters was there in the previous quests and they liked continuing the previous nodes in all the quests after the respective quest, they should have at least removed invade. But we did get some great rewards in the first chapter we almost no effort, so I’m not gonna complain much.

    It's supposed to be for people that are extremely skilled. The biggest hurdle is not relying on Block, but there's been a fair amount of content that has required that. Some Perfect Block works as well. Guardian for one.
  • TyEdgeTyEdge Member Posts: 3,107 ★★★★★
    Is there any value in GHulk with Face Me or Dragon Man with sp3 for this?
  • Sarvanga1_Sarvanga1_ Member Posts: 4,157 ★★★★★
    TyEdge said:

    Is there any value in GHulk with Face Me or Dragon Man with sp3 for this?

    Ghulk works for sunspot fight.
  • SpaceRouteSpaceRoute Member Posts: 1
    nice
  • StellarStellar Member Posts: 1,083 ★★★★

    Almost everyone who’s completed it has said that Aegon or Corvus or even both were their MVP’s, so if someone doesn’t have either of them at a good rarity/ranked up and isn’t extremely skilled, then it’s gonna be a revive fest for them. It would have been so much better without invade or close encounters, not both because it would have been too easy then ngl. Since close encounters was there in the previous quests and they liked continuing the previous nodes in all the quests after the respective quest, they should have at least removed invade. But we did get some great rewards in the first chapter we almost no effort, so I’m not gonna complain much.

    Breaking news! Difficult content with great rewards is difficult !


    I used horseman gambit and Nick fury. There are plenty of options if you use your roster. If you don’t have the options, maybe this one isn’t for you.

    Great rewards 😳

    Summer of had great rewards du to the difficulty.
    This has standard rewards for a difficulty nearly the level of summer of pain
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Stellar said:

    Almost everyone who’s completed it has said that Aegon or Corvus or even both were their MVP’s, so if someone doesn’t have either of them at a good rarity/ranked up and isn’t extremely skilled, then it’s gonna be a revive fest for them. It would have been so much better without invade or close encounters, not both because it would have been too easy then ngl. Since close encounters was there in the previous quests and they liked continuing the previous nodes in all the quests after the respective quest, they should have at least removed invade. But we did get some great rewards in the first chapter we almost no effort, so I’m not gonna complain much.

    Breaking news! Difficult content with great rewards is difficult !


    I used horseman gambit and Nick fury. There are plenty of options if you use your roster. If you don’t have the options, maybe this one isn’t for you.

    Great rewards 😳

    Summer of had great rewards du to the difficulty.
    This has standard rewards for a difficulty nearly the level of summer of pain
    1) did you consider that SoP rewards may be WAY above average in terms of rewards for its difficulty? And this champ challenge might be a bit closer to what it’s supposed to be

    2) SoP was made much easier by the fact that we could restart fights over and over to get the perfect run. You can’t compare the difficulty like for like because they’re such different content forms.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★

    This challenge is a units fest, boring hitting into block and kabam low on money. I will not be doing this challenge rather save my units for other content

    You know you don’t need to hit into block?
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,329 ★★★★★

    xNig said:

    xNig said:

    xNig said:

    Carmel1 said:

    A game should be fun but I don't find it enjoyable when not only there are 2-3 champs that can beat it but also the play style of hitting only through block.
    It was also boring to watch YouTubers so I can't even imagine how it feel to actually run it.
    When you see top YouTubers burn items and frustrated during the quest, you know this one is not for you...
    It should have been a local node on one defender at most, but not as global node. (both for close encounters and invade)

    And if someone say it was a fun quest, I don't believe him... maybe he's confuse about having fun playing it or happy it finally over.

    2-3 champs that can beat it? Nonsense.
    sure, every champ can theoretically beat it since there is nothing truly restricting any champ like bleed or required conditions. but how many can feasibly do it without requiring absurd ai cooperation and luck?

    only champs i've seen are thing, aegon(this is whom i used) and corvus, and diablo for shang chi
    That’s because you’ve “seen” too little. Or the people you associate with that play this game have very limited scope in champ usage.

    I used Elsa / Tigra / Gulk / NF / KM on my main, and Elsa / Gulk / NF / Aarkus / BWCV on my alt. Weird that you’ve seen none of the champs used. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    I can assure you though, after exploring it twice, it isn’t luck.
    i stand corrected. it was short sightedness on my part and unwillingness to try other champsions.
    I find that, no offence to you, most of the community likes to pigeon hole themselves into the “if I do not have xxx or yyy champ, I won’t be able to do this quest” mindset. It’s self inflicting and honestly, quite dumb, simply because it puts a laziness cap on themselves for not wanting to “think” and wanting to “follow” instead.

    Trust me, once you get out of that mindset, you’ll see a whole world of puzzle challenges that the game offers that can be overcomes by a large portion of defenders, and skill.
    yeah. i agree. tried diff champs like killmonger and he works exceptionally well
    That’s great to hear.

    All the best dude.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,512 ★★★★★
    Rillian said:

    Rillian said:

    Almost everyone who’s completed it has said that Aegon or Corvus or even both were their MVP’s, so if someone doesn’t have either of them at a good rarity/ranked up and isn’t extremely skilled, then it’s gonna be a revive fest for them. It would have been so much better without invade or close encounters, not both because it would have been too easy then ngl. Since close encounters was there in the previous quests and they liked continuing the previous nodes in all the quests after the respective quest, they should have at least removed invade. But we did get some great rewards in the first chapter we almost no effort, so I’m not gonna complain much.

    It's supposed to be for people that are extremely skilled. The biggest hurdle is not relying on Block, but there's been a fair amount of content that has required that. Some Perfect Block works as well. Guardian for one.
    How did you pick your team for this challenge?
    Eenie meenie mynie mo.
    I have lurked for a while and have long suspected your skills might be on a level with swedeah and msd.

    Would you consider starting a YouTube channel, giving yourself a platform to get your wisdom out to a wider audience?

    I was being sarcastic. I skipped Chapter 2. I didn't have the patience. That doesn't mean I'm not aware of the intention of the content.
  • Colinwhitworth69Colinwhitworth69 Member Posts: 7,425 ★★★★★
    Planning to use Corvus. Any reason not to run double edge and liquid courage?
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