Cosmic Eclipse Sym Spidey

What the heck is this fight

So I took in my 6* r1 Venom to counter the evade, no problem. The thing that cost me 4 revives, however, was the 10 block limit; Spidey's sp1 hits 5 times and hits hard, so how do you all counter this? People are saying he's the easiest fight but honestly, I can't do that daily

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rockykoston

Here's how you do it. You need to block the first 2 projectile hits, then dash back and avoid the contact hits.

Once you are at 8 or 9 blocked hits, then don't push him to sp1, block a hit , dex the unblockable hit and repeat the cycle.

If you have a doubt, tag me.

Total_Domin01

Dodge the final 3 hits

King_Sterny

Or just use AA!

AA needs to be duped, right?

SkyLord7000

Roblin seems super straight forward with doom. 5* shards are underrated IMO

SpideyFunko

you can dodge the final 3 hits

still if he throws it five times you’ve no choice but to attempt the dex

Hammerbro_64

Alternatively, you can parry to manipulate the bubble count

Sir_Globalot

It's do-able but took me 3 revives for Venom/Doom, not ideal per day at aaaall. Might try Roblin but honestly, these "daily missions" are the hardest I've seen in 2 years of playing

AzKicker316

Bring Venom and AA, no revives needed.

Lpoo

I did AA and moleman. The mole didn’t make it, but AA took care of the rest

Crcrcrc

I used nf for a solo, just right after the second web hits dash back. Then once you hit 10 charges dex a medium so that the word unblockable appears and you're good for another 10

hungryhungrybbq

What the heck is this fight

So I took in my 6* r1 Venom to counter the evade, no problem. The thing that cost me 4 revives, however, was the 10 block limit; Spidey's sp1 hits 5 times and hits hard, so how do you all counter this? People are saying he's the easiest fight but honestly, I can't do that daily

He's doable with Venom, but AA is arguably one of the best attackers for him if you have. Basically, in this fight, damage is going to be one of the keys. The longer you are in the fight, the more trouble you can get into. If you're using an R1 Venom (without Suicides?) The fight will be markedly longer than say an r2 or r3 (let alone with Suicides).

But yeah, the combination of Bubble Shield and his sp1 is the main puzzle to solve in this fight.

Combat techniques you can use to try to play around it:

Practice AI manipulation techniques. Specifically, convince them to hold special. Can do this by stopping your combos short. MLLL directly into block. The reason this works is that you will recover from your light attack fast enough to enter a block before the computer is recovered/able to enter an input. Gives you a momentary "frame advantage" (you are able to enter your next input first). When you complete a full combo, there is a small recovery time applied to you before you can enter your next input (this is what prevents us from having an unlimited combo). If you end a combo (normal MLLLM for example), the AI will have a small frame advantage (recover slightly before you). And will read you as open during that split second and likely fire the special. You recover in time to dex or block, but it's already been fired none the less.

From there, the next technique you can try is to reparry. Basically you take the first hit on block (in order to avoid them throwing special), then lift block for a second to then parry the second hit. But it takes practice and can get wrecked when first learning it (practice mode ftw).

Now, let's say he throws the special:

His sp1 is actually fully dex-able, but distance is required to dex the webshots usually. MLLL combo also applies here as well. As with any defender who requires distance to cleanly dex their sp1 (think YJ and Electro), using a MLLL combo into a dash back will set you up with the distance required to dex it. Again practice mode could be useful here.

Aside from that, the other option is to practice blocking the webshots, then dexing out of the punches at the right moment. This is an old technique that players have been using for years to avoid Spidey Unblockable at sp1. The webshots are blockable, but the punches are not, when the Enhanced SP1 node is active. Once again, the new practice mode is amazing for this. You'll still take 2 hits to block this way, but probably better than 5 at least.

All that being said... AA makes this fight markedly easier for 2 reasons. Damage (sooner the fight is over the better) and AAR (if awakened). He will turn off the evade and the nodes. 🙂 Hope any of this is useful. Good luck!

hungryhungrybbq

Posted a link to some footage, but I think it has to go through approval first.

Kennado

Or just use AA!

hungryhungrybbq

Idk.. I'll try linking again?

https://youtu.be/eqvQ_ycteBE

hungryhungrybbq

Or just use AA!

Yup, that's who I'm using to blast through my runs.

https://youtu.be/5QnsJiU_mww

Deacon

Stryfe laughs at his unblockable attempts.

willrun4adonut

Would Miles with his new buff on unblockables work here? I haven't seen anyone suggest him yet on any of the multiple threads and was wondering before I bring him in.

hungryhungrybbq

Would Miles with his new buff on unblockables work here? I haven't seen anyone suggest him yet on any of the multiple threads and was wondering before I bring him in.

Probably? I don't know enough about his new kit yet tbh.

Dontsellthem

My max rank 4* Chi cleans house solo all 3 champs in epic difficulty

Fryday

Stryfe laughs at his unblockable attempts.

@DeaconVelvet
This is a really good point, it got me think about this boss and the AV as well.

I don't have Styfe, would Mr Sinister have a chance (as he also can stop Unblockable)?

I do understand that Spidy SP hit into block pretty hard too so will have to dex.

@hungryhungrybbq , thank you a great indept explaination with a lot of useful tip. I also don't have AA. Would a Immortal Abom work instead for extra passive damages?

As some people have shown that it is doable, with the right champs, but to do this for 28 days, seem a bit much, especially since it is the only way to fully Rank up Summoner Symbiote Steve. Seem a bit unbalance in my opinion.

hungryhungrybbq

Stryfe laughs at his unblockable attempts.
@DeaconVelvet
This is a really good point, it got me think about this boss and the AV as well.

I don't have Styfe, would Mr Sinister have a chance (as he also can stop Unblockable)?

I do understand that Spidy SP hit into block pretty hard too so will have to dex.

@hungryhungrybbq , thank you a great indept explaination with a lot of useful tip. I also don't have AA. Would a Immortal Abom work instead for extra passive damages?

As some people have shown that it is doable, with the right champs, but to do this for 28 days, seem a bit much, especially since it is the only way to fully Rank up Summoner Symbiote Steve. Seem a bit unbalance in my opinion.

Sure, no problem. What makes these boss fights difficult (depending on roster and experience level) is they are designed to have multiple things going on, right? It divides your focus in the fight. Focus on one thing too much and the other bites you. 🙂 So anything you can do to limit or remove one of the complications from the fight will make it easier. Like, the evade for example. Remove this from the equation and you can now focus more on the other factors. Like the Bubble Shield, etc.

I don't have iBom, but I don't think he has an anti-evade mechanic. Which is why folks are turning to Venom and such. But, even with a good counter, I'd still recommend utilizing the new practice function. To learn to deal with his SP1. Like in the first footage I posted. That's the practice mode. I will be using this new tool a lot myself.

As for the relative difficulty of these quests... It's not always a popular opinion, but I think it's fights like these that teach us new things and make us better players in the long run. And yeah, for anyone whose roster and/or experience is a little more limited, it's going to be more challenging. But, the combat experience and the rewards to help grow your account are usually worth the effort. And you'll be better prepared for the next challenge that arises.

However, again.. a very unpopular opinion, regardless of what others say. There's nothing wrong with making the decision to do a different difficulty if that's what you decide. This game is to have fun, not a race. If Legendary doesn't feel right yet. But either way.. the event has just started. With practice and/or undiscovered counters in your roster, you may find that it's doable for you. Spend some time each day in practice mode before you go in. Good luck!

Reptoid

Cable with Apocalyse synergy, Spidey is dead before you reach 10 blocked hits.

Hector_1475

@Sir_Globalot if Bubble Shield is the issue, I suggest you bring along Guardian (any rarity, preferably the highest you have). It makes a big difference.

slacker

Do Falcon work ? i don't have AA and my Venom only 5r4

Sir_Globalot

@Sir_Globalot if Bubble Shield is the issue, I suggest you bring along Guardian (any rarity, preferably the highest you have). It makes a big difference.

Thank the RNG for my sig 140 5* Guardian then! I've been trying to practice dexing the sp1 but after the first 2 webs, I get locked in the block despite my swiping left

TimestoneAdarsH

I used Red Gaurdian bubble shield is no problem but got hit after he evaded and not slowed.. Just 2 hits and I am Dead and was so much over kill
Afterthat played Slow and job done

TimestoneAdarsH

Do Falcon work ? i don't have AA and my Venom only 5r4

Yes And hits hard As fight goes on
But careful with LockOn

Mic-El

My 5* Venom (5/65 sig 200), and my 5* Red Magneto (5/65 sig 1) make easy meat of this specific SQ.

dangarang122

This is also a fight I am having issues with in terms of revives. I use 6 star r1 Venom, and does take a couple of revives to get him down, which is not sustainable in the long term. I do have archangel at r4, but he is unawakened. Would he still be better than Venom?

Shamir51

Stick 3 points in Stand Your Ground mastery and use Mole Man. Just make sure you have at least 1 Monster Mass active and say good bye to unblockable hits.