The T4CC Conundrum

Hambone_Zone1Hambone_Zone1 Member Posts: 31
edited April 2022 in Suggestions and Requests
I'm going to start with a compliment. Thank you Kabam for lowering the glory store costs and increasing the quantity available. It's nice to not always run out of basic rank-up equipment when I have a full t5cc waiting to be used for my Hyperion. I'm a thronebreaker, I recently completed Act 7, the Kang was a fun boss fight, don't judge me I liked it. I just have one problem, t4cc availability. The fact is, t5cc has become more accessible than t4cc. You need 1 t5cc for a rank 3 but 8 t4cc for a rank 3. A lot of t5cc is coming in the form of sectors, which is amazing THANK YOU! I could never have ranked Shang-Chi, Mister Negative, Nimrod, and Sorcerer Supreme without the selectors. I just wish we could get less of the t4cc RNGesus and RNGarunteed value with t4cc selectors. If the glory store offered selectors of 50% or a full catalyst instead of Greater Glory crystals, that would be nice. Just an idea to make t4cc easier to come by for advanced players who keep running out of a resource they shouldn't be bottlenecked by this late in the game.
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  • Noise72Noise72 Member Posts: 337 ★★★
    I have been facing the same problems. T4CC is the only thing I have trouble with because its entirely RNG based. There's more T5CC selectors out there than T4CC which makes no sense to me. Just change the glory store to a selector and it will eliminate the issue for TB players entirely. Kabam was so close to doing the right thing by increasing the quantity and reducing the cost. But we are still at the mercy of RNG.
  • spacejumper5193spacejumper5193 Member Posts: 154 ★★

    I'm going to start with a compliment. Thank you Kabam for lowering the glory store costs and increasing the quantity available. It's nice to not always run out of basic rank-up equipment when I have a full t5cc waiting to be used for my Hyperion. I'm a thronebreaker, I recently completed Act 7, the Kang was a fun boss fight, don't judge me I liked it. I just have one problem, t4cc availability. The fact is, t5cc has become more accessible than t4cc. You need 1 t5cc for a rank 3 but 8 t4cc for a rank 3. A lot of t5cc is coming in the form of sectors, which is amazing THANK YOU! I could never have ranked Shang-Chi, Mister Negative, Nimrod, and Sorcerer Supreme without the selectors. I just wish we could get less of the t4cc RNGesus and RNGarunteed value with t4cc selectors. If the glory store offered selectors of 50% or a full catalyst instead of Greater Glory crystals, that would be nice. Just an idea to make t4cc easier to come by for advanced players who keep running out of a resource they shouldn't be bottlenecked by this late in the game.

    I 100% agree this is an issue, yet Kabam refuses to address this issue... @Kabam Miike @Kabam Zibiit @Kabam Porthos
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    I think I saw @BitterSteel break it down best. It costs 15 t4cc to take a 6* r1 champion to r3. There is no regular way to target full t4cc, so you have to pop the random crystals. Statistically speaking, and assuming you are starting from 0, that means opening 90 t4cc crystals for one champion.

    If you want to rank a second champ of the same class? Good luck. Now you have to deal with some serious overflow maintenance issues. I used to avoid this by ranking my classes in proportion to each other, but now I’m at a point where I have other priorities and that’s not really feasible. It sucks to be throttled by a material that was designed as a limiter for 4* champions now in 2022.

    I would love to take credit but that was actually @Rockypantherx ’s excellent point he shared in a line chat, and I parroted it on the forum!

    I would just add though (and this is a BitterSteel Original Thought) that 90 t4cc is 13 weeks straight of buying 7 crystals; I.e. 31.5k glory if you have 0 of one class
  • JustAGuyJustAGuy Member Posts: 84
    Gotta say that my T4CC time hasn’t been going great, from glory and event crystals that I saved up, I got this


  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,367 ★★★★★
    JustAGuy said:

    Gotta say that my T4CC time hasn’t been going great, from glory and event crystals that I saved up, I got this


    Tell me you weren’t looking for Mystic
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★
    i've been able to keep around 350ish t4cc crystals in stash mainly because the t5b bottleneck is so severe i can never rank anyone lol
  • QuikPikQuikPik Member Posts: 814 ★★★★
    I bet he wasn't looking for tech :D
  • LpooLpoo Member Posts: 2,215 ★★★★★
    I previously had not thought about the difference in choice between t5cc and t4cc. I don’t know if there is a quest or reward with T4cc selectors. Just put it in the glory store already
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Lpoo said:

    I previously had not thought about the difference in choice between t5cc and t4cc. I don’t know if there is a quest or reward with T4cc selectors. Just put it in the glory store already

    There have occasionally been very small numbers in side quests or events but I don't think we've ever had t4cc selectors in regular content just occasional random stuff or offers. It's absolutely ridiculous
  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,367 ★★★★★

    Lpoo said:

    I previously had not thought about the difference in choice between t5cc and t4cc. I don’t know if there is a quest or reward with T4cc selectors. Just put it in the glory store already

    There have occasionally been very small numbers in side quests or events but I don't think we've ever had t4cc selectors in regular content just occasional random stuff or offers. It's absolutely ridiculous
    We have selectors now in the new daily quest, but it’s for like 10% of one catalyst. You’d have to do that 150 times for a single rank up. So uhhhhh yeah we need some updates there.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Wicket329 said:

    Lpoo said:

    I previously had not thought about the difference in choice between t5cc and t4cc. I don’t know if there is a quest or reward with T4cc selectors. Just put it in the glory store already

    There have occasionally been very small numbers in side quests or events but I don't think we've ever had t4cc selectors in regular content just occasional random stuff or offers. It's absolutely ridiculous
    We have selectors now in the new daily quest, but it’s for like 10% of one catalyst. You’d have to do that 150 times for a single rank up. So uhhhhh yeah we need some updates there.
    Yeah I don't even count those or the glory store daily. It's such a pittance when you need 15 catalysts to R1 to R3 someone. It's beyond laughable
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    I said in the season 33 announcement that they should just remove the t4cc cost from R3S 6*s. It's the only rankup across all rarities that requires 2 tiers of class catalysts. It's absolutely absurd
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,380 ★★★★★

    I said in the season 33 announcement that they should just remove the t4cc cost from R3S 6*s. It's the only rankup across all rarities that requires 2 tiers of class catalysts. It's absolutely absurd

    Agreed. It's is silly imo that to r3 a 6* you still need t4cc that 4* use. Like t4b it shouldn't be used past 6r2 level. For the first time in a long time I was down to about a dozen crystals after carrying a few champs to r3. At this point I will have to just sit on my champs until I get crystals.
  • RaiderbobRaiderbob Member Posts: 169
    T4cc is a problem? Really? Try doing content, EQ and events. I’ve had T4cc coming out my ears for the last two+ years. Between shards and whole T4cc crystals I haven’t needed to chase them at all
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  • Zeronaut81Zeronaut81 Member Posts: 290 ★★
    edited March 2022
    It’s only been recently that I’ve struggled with any t4cc, but the RNG aspect of crystals is pretty frustrating. I was all ready to R3 Kitty Pryde back on March 4. I popped the remaining t4cc crystals I had and got zero mutant. I was already overflowing with science and skill t4cc, and the majority I popped were science and skill. Ha.





    I wound up trading in some of the overflow science & skill cats, still no mutant. I’ve opened several more this month, and still no mutant. Thankfully, we got a 2->3 rank up gem for completing 7.4 and I was able to rank up Kitty. But man, it would be nice if we could get a selector if we traded in class cats.
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    Bc running map 5 and chiming in here is super yikes
  • H3t3rH3t3r Member, Guardian Posts: 2,882 Guardian
    Raiderbob said:

    T4cc is a problem? Really? Try doing content, EQ and events. I’ve had T4cc coming out my ears for the last two+ years. Between shards and whole T4cc crystals I haven’t needed to chase them at all

    What does your t5cc count look like?
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★

    Raiderbob said:

    T4cc is a problem? Really? Try doing content, EQ and events. I’ve had T4cc coming out my ears for the last two+ years. Between shards and whole T4cc crystals I haven’t needed to chase them at all

    Lol try being farther along in the game and get back with me
    i mean i'm close to your level and have hundreds :wink:
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  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★

    Raiderbob said:

    T4cc is a problem? Really? Try doing content, EQ and events. I’ve had T4cc coming out my ears for the last two+ years. Between shards and whole T4cc crystals I haven’t needed to chase them at all

    Lol try being farther along in the game and get back with me
    i mean i'm close to your level and have hundreds :wink:
    Not my fault you don't have champs/t5b 😂. I've got 5 or 6 t5b in overflow
  • danielmathdanielmath Member Posts: 4,103 ★★★★★

    Raiderbob said:

    T4cc is a problem? Really? Try doing content, EQ and events. I’ve had T4cc coming out my ears for the last two+ years. Between shards and whole T4cc crystals I haven’t needed to chase them at all

    Lol try being farther along in the game and get back with me
    i mean i'm close to your level and have hundreds :wink:
    Not my fault you don't have champs/t5b 😂. I've got 5 or 6 t5b in overflow
    I have plenty of champs, just no t5b
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