6* generic on knull/hype or shang chi? All can go to r3

Creeseaz

Only have about 30 sig stones for whichever I pick

Yodabolt21

Hype and leave at sig 1

Maratox

I think hype has the best awakened ability for low sig. but knull is overall a better investment I think

Gamer

Safe a generics personal way better then those for a generic

Creeseaz

Interesting. 3 diff opinions so far lol let's see where this goes

Creeseaz

Really can't decide

GinjabredMonsta

I'd say hype benefits the most from a sig than the others, but I'm not sure about shang chi since I don't have a higher rarity to use

TyEdge

Sig 1 hype unless you’re gonna spin another feature before it expires.

Creeseaz

TyEdge said:

Sig 1 hype unless you’re gonna spin another feature before it expires.

Yeah since there's only 8 days left of it I figure I'll wait to use the generic until after it's done cuz I'm spinning nothing but features till then. Knulls in it too

Creeseaz

TyEdge said:

Sig 1 hype unless you’re gonna spin another feature before it expires.

Also is 6* hype different then the 5 star in that I remember with the 5 star his best sig level was like 40

solopolo

@TyEdge @Creeseaz @Yodabolt21

20 is the ideal for Hype. You get around 5% extra for the first 20 points in his sig, versus 1% more if you go to 40.

TheLegend27

I wouldn't use a generic on any of them.

odishika123

Hype

Creeseaz

Still split

PapaMidnite007

Shiang chi doesnt need it Knull doesnt need it but he goes to next level... Hyperion benefits the most at low sig so i would go with hyperion or knull. If you can try for featured before it expires good luck.

Strangecraft069

Not Shang chi

TyEdge

solopolo said:

@TyEdge @Creeseaz @Yodabolt21

20 is the ideal for Hype. You get around 5% extra for the first 20 points in his sig, versus 1% more if you go to 40.

It’s not, and your numbers are wrong. He goes up to 75% at 200. People focus on multiples of 20 because that’s how many sigs you get for dupes.

You’re asserting that there are diminishing returns beyond sig 20, which is true, but it starts way before that. And what you ignore is whether some/all of those sigs would be better used elsewhere, which is roster dependent. You’re unlikely to notice a difference between 65, 70 and 75% longer buffs.

Here’s how it actually scales, though:

Sig 1: 65.35
Sig 6: 68.07 (.554% per stone for these 5 levels)
Sig 11: 69.1 (.206% per stone for these 5 levels)
Sig 16: 69.78 (.136% per stone for these 5 levels)
Sig 20: 70.19 (.1025% per stone for these 4 levels)

To put it another way, you get the same increase for going from sig 1 to sig 5 that you get from going from 5 to 20. Whether that’s worth 15 stones or not (or whether you feel a need to operate in multiples of 20) is up to the user.

13579rebel_

use the gem on hype rank up knull or chi

Creeseaz

TyEdge said:

solopolo said:

@TyEdge @Creeseaz @Yodabolt21

20 is the ideal for Hype. You get around 5% extra for the first 20 points in his sig, versus 1% more if you go to 40.

It’s not, and your numbers are wrong. He goes up to 75% at 200. People focus on multiples of 20 because that’s how many sigs you get for dupes.

You’re asserting that there are diminishing returns beyond sig 20, which is true, but it starts way before that. And what you ignore is whether some/all of those sigs would be better used elsewhere, which is roster dependent. You’re unlikely to notice a difference between 65, 70 and 75% longer buffs.

Here’s how it actually scales, though:

Sig 1: 65.35
Sig 6: 68.07 (.554% per stone for these 5 levels)
Sig 11: 69.1 (.206% per stone for these 5 levels)
Sig 16: 69.78 (.136% per stone for these 5 levels)
Sig 20: 70.19 (.1025% per stone for these 4 levels)

To put it another way, you get the same increase for going from sig 1 to sig 5 that you get from going from 5 to 20. Whether that’s worth 15 stones or not (or whether you feel a need to operate in multiples of 20) is up to the user.

Thank you this helped

Creeseaz

Should I save the gem?

Oakenshield

Do you run suicides most of the time? If you do, not sure I would make the investment in Hyperion. I’d probably save it in that case.

If you don’t, then I would say keep trying to naturally dupe him from the featured then - if no luck - consider awakening him.

Final thought - you might want to hold off till after Spring Cleaning (assuming it happens) in case there are some offers or new champs that give you some other options.

PowerOfACandle

I'd save it.

phillgreen

I would save it but I normally wait a long time before using any gem unless its a gamechanging sig (like aegon or nick fury for example)

I love hyperion but I don't think his sig is gamechanging.