The Thronebreaker Daily is Rubbish

DrZola

Why do “TB” materials tend to grow less useful to TBs? One theme that seems to permeate things in game is that the rewards you get are precisely what would have helped you get the level you recently obtained. It often feels like a problem of “too little too late.”

As an example, why do TBs get Cav crystals and shards? What is there so much useless junk in TB dailies? Why are there no TB events? Why is there no TB level of quests? Why do I get Grandmaster shards?

I realize Paragon is the new thing. I’m fine that Paragons gets things TBs don’t. But it would be logical if TB had actually been fleshed out before the team created their next monetization point. It hasn’t been.

Dr. Zola

GinjabredMonsta

What annoys me is that TB are still getting uncollected crystals shard crystals in the monthly calander. These are useless even for uncollected. The amount of shards that come out of it are tiny and they just annoy me everytime I get one

SpideyFunko

you mean you don’t like getting level 3 health potions and some energy refills all the time?

Angryneeson52

Well go get paragon

TheBair123

Angryneeson52 said:

Well go get paragon

Thanks for being positive! Maybe things are going well for those at the top, but that doesn’t mean things can’t be fixed for everyone else. Issues can still be pointed out, and changed, and there’s no reason for you to be negative in a thread about a positive suggestion

Graves_3

Angryneeson52 said:

Well go get paragon

Lol..the title has been out for like 5 days now..I am sure the OP will get it when he is ready for it. How about you focus on getting paragon on your level 49 alt account?

Riptide

Angryneeson52 said:

Well go get paragon

What about that alt of yours…. Oh wait

Carnage313

DrZola said:

Why do “TB” materials tend to grow less useful to TBs? One theme that seems to permeate things in game is that the rewards you get are precisely what would have helped you get the level you recently obtained. It often feels like a problem of “too little too late.”

As an example, why do TBs get Cav crystals and shards? What is there so much useless junk in TB dailies? Why are there no TB events? Why is there no TB level of quests? Why do I get Grandmaster shards?

I realize Paragon is the new thing. I’m fine that Paragons gets things TBs don’t. But it would be logical if TB had actually been fleshed out before the team created their next monetization point. It hasn’t been.

Dr. Zola

Agreed. I decided to push for thronebreaker about 3 months ago despite all the input issues. I just got tired of waiting honestly. Wasted so many resources and unnecessary units to push through. Obviously that was my stupidity I guess I’ll own that. Since then I’ve thought to myself why did I even do that? There has been no beneficial change to my account. One would think I would have a feeling of accomplishment but all I’ve felt is I’ve wasted my time. Needless to say paragon is a title I do not care about nor will ever push to get. I’ll just try and be content with thronebreaker getting 2018 rewards. Key word try.

DrZola

Angryneeson52 said:

Well go get paragon

Cute. Go get bent.

Dr. Zola

Dontsellthem

I’ve always felt that each title is soooo off.

Uncollected get stuff they could’ve used to get uncollected and now don’t really need as much. Same goes for each title.

Reaching the any title is time consuming and has its challenges. Then you reach said title and think …damn, I could’ve use this BEFORE I reached this🤬.

After I got TB, it’s slow and steady. Don’t care about the rush of getting rank 2-3 6*’s…I’m made it!

Reference

I agree it is pretty off for those progressing TB, but in general I found the opening fit in the drop rate. Most of the time the daily gives 18000 T4cc shards and 9000 T2a regularly, with T5b shards periodically and a full form T5b / 5* champ occasionally.

Shiroihara

Angryneeson52 said:

Well go get paragon

Bad form but I somewhat agree with the sentiment. If pulling t2a and t5 doesn’t do it for you anymore, the you might be ready to move on to the next thing. TB has been out for a while and many players would be in that situation.

One thing I fully believe is that we should’ve had TB crystals for a while now. 300 units for a 3* is a joke.

I will also say that I don’t think free stuff should necessarily help you progress (roll on the disagrees).

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Ercarret

Rillian said:

I’m afraid I’m against dr zola here.

Thronebreaker crystals seemed game breakingly good on release, we’ve just got used to them.

Try opening cav or even conqueror dailies for a while

I don't think we've gotten used to them, I think a lot of TBers have simply moved past them. When I first became TB a year ago, they were awesome! A year later, I'm in a whole different stage of my TB phase and their shine has dropped significantly.

I think the problem is that the crystals are designed for Day 1 Thronebreakers (or whichever progression tier we're talking about), not Day 365 ones. Ideally Kabam would reevaluate daily crystals after a year or so when a fair amount of people have reached deeper into the progression tier, but I doubt that'll happen.

The_Chump

These are daily crystals. You, presumably, get 30 of these per month, minus a couple due to not logging in the same time each day. They're not supposed to be game breaking.

With that said, these crystals were absolute bangers when they came out, and a ridiculously huge step up from cav dailies. They still seemed ok, not amazing, but decent, when I made the move to Paragon. If these crystals feel that stale to you you're probably nearing Paragon. Good luck!

Worknprogress

Lol I remember people calling them game breaking when TB first came out 😂. I said that was nonsense then of course, but so is this. This is a funny community sometimes.

Worknprogress

I'm actually pretty sure OP was involved in some of those conversations as well 🤣

The_Sentry06

These crystals are fine. They offer me a nice amount of catalysts and the occasional shards drop which gets me excited. They could be better (maybe tune the drop rates a bit) but whatever, they are free stuff which we get for doing nothing. Calling them rubbish is a bit too harsh imo.

DrZola

Worknprogress said:

I'm actually pretty sure OP was involved in some of those conversations as well 🤣

It’s probably way back in the forums archives, but there were several of us who tracked our drops and reported them for the first year or so. They were far from the promise of “game-breaking” then and continue to be average stuff for the most part now. I stopped recording after about a year of pulls that were almost 60% T4 shards and T4 cats.

Some good points made, and I would agree that everything new becomes less relevant as accounts progress. TB dailies are no exception, just like Cav level EQ and Cav level solo events.

I am not surprised this is a divisive take. But I don’t think things like GM shards belong in TB events any more than, say, Cav crystals belong in Paragon prizes. I’m happy for the Paragon dailies that wind up as things like 6* dupes—which is great—but I also wonder why 6* dupes don’t pay out more than they do. TB dailies are for me a symptom of a broader need for updating game-wide.

Dr. Zola

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Worknprogress

DrZola said:

Worknprogress said:

I'm actually pretty sure OP was involved in some of those conversations as well 🤣

It’s probably way back in the forums archives, but there were several of us who tracked our drops and reported them for the first year or so. They were far from the promise of “game-breaking” then and continue to be average stuff for the most part now. I stopped recording after about a year of pulls that were almost 60% T4 shards and T4 cats.

Some good points made, and I would agree that everything new becomes less relevant as accounts progress. TB dailies are no exception, just like Cav level EQ and Cav level solo events.

I am not surprised this is a divisive take. But I don’t think things like GM shards belong in TB events any more than, say, Cav crystals belong in Paragon prizes. I’m happy for the Paragon dailies that wind up as things like 6* dupes—which is great—but I also wonder why 6* dupes don’t pay out more than they do. TB dailies are for me a symptom of a broader need for updating game-wide.

Dr. Zola

Yeah I'm talking about the reaction some of you had in that first week or so of TB going live. Not after you actually got the TB title. It was way over the top and ridiculous as is this take. It's a daily crystal, it's not supposed to be a big deal.

OGAvenger

You’re talking about the crystals you get for just logging in to the game, correct?

BuggyDClown

I ask one thing from kabam

Please can we get any info if you guys planning about TB difficulty (MEQ & MSQ). I mean that if devs considering next level of difficulty????

Malreck04

They were never amazing. In all my time I think I’ve seen 1-2 actual screenshots of pulling the 10k

Gamer

Malreck04 said:

They were never amazing. In all my time I think I’ve seen 1-2 actual screenshots of pulling the 10k

I’m see like 10 so far never got lucky my self

BitterSteel

I’m surprised so many are against getting stuff like T4B and T4CC from dailies. Both of which are used to rank 6*s. I love getting them as a steady income of those resources.

Re: objective crystals, yeah they should get an update for Thronebreaker players and potentially Paragon players.

DrZola

Worknprogress said:

DrZola said:

Worknprogress said:

I'm actually pretty sure OP was involved in some of those conversations as well 🤣

It’s probably way back in the forums archives, but there were several of us who tracked our drops and reported them for the first year or so. They were far from the promise of “game-breaking” then and continue to be average stuff for the most part now. I stopped recording after about a year of pulls that were almost 60% T4 shards and T4 cats.

Some good points made, and I would agree that everything new becomes less relevant as accounts progress. TB dailies are no exception, just like Cav level EQ and Cav level solo events.

I am not surprised this is a divisive take. But I don’t think things like GM shards belong in TB events any more than, say, Cav crystals belong in Paragon prizes. I’m happy for the Paragon dailies that wind up as things like 6* dupes—which is great—but I also wonder why 6* dupes don’t pay out more than they do. TB dailies are for me a symptom of a broader need for updating game-wide.

Dr. Zola

Yeah I'm talking about the reaction some of you had in that first week or so of TB going live. Not after you actually got the TB title. It was way over the top and ridiculous as is this take. It's a daily crystal, it's not supposed to be a big deal.

That I recall vividly, which was why I began recording when I became TB. While some notable community members championed how amazing the crystals were, I quickly realized mine had been Zolaed after about a month.

Dr. Zola

DrZola

BitterSteel said:

I’m surprised so many are against getting stuff like T4B and T4CC from dailies. Both of which are used to rank 6*s. I love getting them as a steady income of those resources.

Re: objective crystals, yeah they should get an update for Thronebreaker players and potentially Paragon players.

Personally, not against it per se, but T4 level cats should be full cats at that level. That wouldn’t be a heavy lift as an improvement.

Dr. Zola

BitterSteel

DrZola said:

BitterSteel said:

I’m surprised so many are against getting stuff like T4B and T4CC from dailies. Both of which are used to rank 6*s. I love getting them as a steady income of those resources.

Re: objective crystals, yeah they should get an update for Thronebreaker players and potentially Paragon players.

Personally, not against it per se, but T4 level cats should be full cats at that level. That wouldn’t be a heavy lift as an improvement.

Dr. Zola

I think it was phrased poorly before, but I think the answer to that is just push to the next level. Get Paragon and increase your amounts.

First you didn’t like T4cc and T4B being in Daily’s, now it’s the amount. I appreciate wanting more, but daily’s are just rewards for logging in. You’re doing very little, for generally a few T4B, T4C and T2A in an average week. Sometimes you get T5B or other rarer drops. But it is just logging in at the end of the day.

I’d support a push to get objective crystals updated to today’s game, but buffing a free daily crystal that requires no effort? I’m afraid you’ve lost me there.

Malreck04

BitterSteel said:

DrZola said:

BitterSteel said:

I’m surprised so many are against getting stuff like T4B and T4CC from dailies. Both of which are used to rank 6*s. I love getting them as a steady income of those resources.

Re: objective crystals, yeah they should get an update for Thronebreaker players and potentially Paragon players.

Personally, not against it per se, but T4 level cats should be full cats at that level. That wouldn’t be a heavy lift as an improvement.

Dr. Zola

I think it was phrased poorly before, but I think the answer to that is just push to the next level. Get Paragon and increase your amounts.

First you didn’t like T4cc and T4B being in Daily’s, now it’s the amount. I appreciate wanting more, but daily’s are just rewards for logging in. You’re doing very little, for generally a few T4B, T4C and T2A in an average week. Sometimes you get T5B or other rarer drops. But it is just logging in at the end of the day.

I’d support a push to get objective crystals updated to today’s game, but buffing a free daily crystal that requires no effort? I’m afraid you’ve lost me there.

Agreed. A full t4cc just for logging in is quite the ask, considering t4cc is quite relevant for six stars