Crossbones were not throw specials crossbones will not throw specials

Skydad23

Crossbones will not throw specials crossbones will not throw specials. I understand this fight is supposed to be hard that’s the fun part, but when you make changes to your AI for the fight so crossbones will be completely passive it really just comes off as a unit grab! I mean it’s pretty blatant that it’s written into the fight when you can corner him launch your special and even coming out of the special he won’t throw his.

QuikPik

I've found that by starting over you can "get" a different AI. First few times I tried, I couldn't get a special out of him at all.

PoolBoyRoy

Agreed, only villain champ I got that can work is apoc who isn’t poison immune. Makes it very hard to get anything done if he won’t throw specials and just holds block; End up either poisoned or degenerating. Sucks but we’ll just need to deal with it.

Lovejoy72

I had to adjust my play style. Shallow dexs, spending more time in his face, and he got much freer throwing. I would characterize my style as a bit timid, defensive. I don’t spend a great deep of time playing in high-level war or any other thing that would compell me to get tighter. I needed to.

GinjabredMonsta

This is similar to the cross bones in act 6. You have to try and bait alot as well as potential restart, but normal baiting tactics doesn't always work and that poison on him means business

Natehawk43

Yeah I agree with these comments… just keep on trying. It took me probably 30 restarts (or more!) to get one fight that really fell into the right rhythm and then it just kept on going until Crossbones was KO’d. If you get frustrated just take a break and come back to it (I know that’s easier said than done). You’ll get there!

Pikolu

Omega red makes this fight a breeze with 1 point in coagulate. I had no problems getting crossbones to throw specials by just hitting his block twice and dashing back. He was very cooperative with his specials for me

Squirrelguy

Try standing super still, then dashing back at the very last second as he dashes towards you. Or being reckless and attacking in a less predictable pattern. I didn’t see anything unusual with when he would throw his special.

Maybe you’re not used to the new beta timings.

TheBair123

i found that sentinel actually helps you with the bane timer. since you're getting so much power back after you launch a special, you'll almost always have a bar of power or more. then you don't need to basic intercept, just get him to come towards you and throw a special. won't always work, but it's more reliable than intercepting

GinjabredMonsta

Squirrelguy said:

Try standing super still, then dashing back at the very last second as he dashes towards you. Or being reckless and attacking in a less predictable pattern. I didn’t see anything unusual with when he would throw his special.

Maybe you’re not used to the new beta timings.

Nah, this is definitely a specific AI for this version. He is very passive

Ultragamer

The ai is made so bane kills you

Berjibs

This has been driving me up the wall.

Back a year ago the last time the game worked for me, coincidentally during the first week of SOP, I used to manipulate the Ai into blocking and retreating by tapping block as they initially advanced towards me. It was a great way to tee up an intercept or back then into their corner without touching them.

The issue I have now is that I have to dex so early these days to even stand a chance of avoiding getting hit (ie as soon as I think I see the first frame of a dash). The result is that it can end up manipulating the Ai into a block/retreat if they are actually just advancing rather than dashing.

It used to be I could dex or parry right at the moment of impact, stand around idling to initiate actions before reacting etc but those are distant memories.


Anyway might explain why some with particularly bad input/timing issues appear to have a different Ai. I watch a couple YT videos and the animation speeds are like a different game to the one I get to play 🤷🏽‍♂️

Adevati

I dont want to play this game anymore.

This fight is the reason why.

JhonST33

I have noticed that when you begin the figth and instantly parry the AI is so passive, I don't know how you figth against him but when I want I defender acts more aggressive I dex the first hit then intercept.
This works for me if there are no nodes that become the defender acts passive.

Deacon

not throwing specials has been an issue for a while now but yes it's more so in this fight for sure. RNG eh? smh almost as bad as ROL sometimes lol

Malreck04

Ultragamer said:

The ai is made so bane kills you

This makes perfect sense. Not saying it's a good thing, but it's a very logical conclusion for players. I try not to blame the game when many people are getting solos.

Ironman3000

This AI is a **** disaster.

DrZola

It took me a while to get the rhythm, but I found CB easy to backdraft intercept when I had him pinned to the wall. I tried DM and Nimrod, but Warlock worked best for me. Just need to get the villain objective now.

But…I do agree. CB playing hard to get this fight. Refuses to give it up.

Dr. Zola

Etm34

I had a pretty aggressive AI in this fight. Baited SP1 all day with no issue. Crazy how differently the fight is for everyone

GinjabredMonsta

Like I said earlier, from what I saw and experienced, this is the same crossbones AI from act 6 just a little beefed up. I recently explored that chapter a few months back and the AI behaved the same way and was extremely passive and not wanting to throw specials. It's very aggravating

altavista

Crossbones AI is not passive per se, but is programmed to appear 'smart.'

Crossbones with 1 bar of power seems more prone to throw the special when there is more than 50% of the Bane timer left. When it is less than 50%, he seems less likely to throw his Special. Once the Bane timer passes onto you, Crossbones will again be more likely to throw his special, or start to dex away like mad.

Ever notice that the Defender tends to run away when you have Unblockable on? Intercepting or hitting into block with normal Nick Fury is a piece of cake. But when Nick Fury is unblockable, suddenly it is much more common for the AI the suddenly dex your intercepts when before they would have just blocked it. I think it is a similar thing here.

The AI is just programmed to respond to advantageous/disadvantageous timers.

Crusaderjr

when the degen is applied to you, xbones holds block down like the homies in LA
the nodes are enough to make it a challenge but the AI being that passive does not seem fair.

Darth_Stewie

Bane has killed me more than any part of this fight. I dont mind all of the nodes necessarily. But with Crossbones fighting style it makes it impossible to get in a hit unless you time your combo perfectly so it's hitting him as soon as bane runs out on his side.

This fight is stupid

The_Sentry06

When the ai actually played into me, I rather enjoyed this fight.

0casual0

AI not throwing specials? What's new?

TrongNov

He's definitely not any AI. The AI is tweaked for this fight and especially for the bane node. I realized that after trying several times with Ghost. Not throwing special attacks, being a turtle especially when the bane is about to end on his side or the bane is on me.
Ended up using Sentinel for him and seems like the best choice for 3 points at one go. When CB is passive, pinned him to the wall and heavy him because Sentinel's heavy is unstoppable at 100 charges. Had to use 1 revive though.

PoolBoyRoy

I left this fight for a day and coming back to it this morning the AI was much better to deal with.

AverageDesi

I found him normal. I think the added constraints of him needing to throw specials and
maintaining three furies,
the Bane timer,
not being able to block or parry as well
as it being unideal to push him to sp2 combine
to make it seem like he's being stingier than normal

redsoxpatsfan89

AverageDesi said:

I found him normal. I think the added constraints of him needing to throw specials and
maintaining three furies,
the Bane timer,
not being able to block or parry as well
as it being unideal to push him to sp2 combine
to make it seem like he's being stingier than normal

Agreed. I really didnt see anything out of the ordinary with the AI. Just more of the usual fighting in a way to bait out his sp. And not to depend on punishing his sp as the way to get the his/restart bane timer.