Eternity of Pain Class Nexus Selector Tool

21Eggatron

Hello all,

So last year, for Summer of Pain, KT1 made a really amazing tool to help people make a decision about what 6* Class Nexus to pick. I updated it and with his permission am now making it available to the community. I have it lined up so that it currently lists every champion that will be in the Basic Pool by the time we receive the crystal.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zmGeb4Kk2GFQrAwBw1-GgYDxmvlo1FCklD4HBGA_HQs/edit?usp=sharing

As the top line says, you have to first make a copy for you to be able to edit. There should be an example copy that is viewable as well.

I hope others find it as useful as I have. Enjoy, and thanks again KT!

Sean_Who

Good lookin' out.

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willrun4adonut

Man, I wished you hadn't posted this. I was all ready to go Cosmic and try to get a Hyperion dupe or Herc, but now I'm heavily leaning towards science.

Squirrelguy

Love me some spreadsheets.

Malreck04

Why should the probability of individual positions within the nexus be different? It's not like we can get the same champ twice or more in a nexus, so we have to apply the one success, two misses independent probabilities regardless of when the champion appears. Which is also why the "total" probability makes no sense to me in this case.

@DNA3000 If you could take the time to clarify this

GrassKnuckles

Thanks!

SirGamesBond

No tool needed in my case.
I have r4 gem rotting in the inventory.

DNA3000

Malreck04 said:

Why should the probability of individual positions within the nexus be different? It's not like we can get the same champ twice or more in a nexus, so we have to apply the one success, two misses independent probabilities regardless of when the champion appears. Which is also why the "total" probability makes no sense to me in this case.

@DNA3000 If you could take the time to clarify this

If I understand KT1’s spreadsheet correctly, the “first, second, third” chances listed are the odds of one of your choices showing up in the first spot, then progressively the odds of one of your choices showing up in the second and third spots assuming none show up earlier. They have nothing to with the overall chance listed which is computed independently and directly by binomial expansion. They seem to be more of a “for fun” calculation on the sheet.

The nexus calculations for each spot aren’t independent calculations because the pulls aren’t independent. If there are 41 champs in the pool then the first spot can be one of 41 champs. But the second can only be one of 40 champs because it can’t duplicate the first. The third spot will be one of 39 for similar reasons.

Something to help think about the situation. A hypothetical 41 spot nexus would have a 100% chance to drop what you want (from a pool of 41) because in a sense every spot would be determined. The order could be different but every champ must appear exactly once by force. If you consider why this is, and what the math must look like, it becomes more obvious why each spot calculates differently.

Malreck04

Ahh, thanks. I was making a logical mistake by subconsciously assuming success=pulling one specific champ (which is not necessarily the case) which would prevent multiple successes in a single nexus.