Shut down the buff program
AMS94
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At this point it's far more likely for a buffed champ to turn into an annoying defender than being actually useful in meaningful content
We don't need all 200 champs to clear content & we surely don't need to face any more annoyances than we already do
We don't need all 200 champs to clear content & we surely don't need to face any more annoyances than we already do
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Quality, not quantity.
Biggest mistake they ever made was having the first major buff in this iteration of them be the absolutely overturned Magneto. He should have never been released anywhere close to what he is and then we probably wouldn't have to sift through 30 threads everytime any champ is buffed and they're not relevant to late game players with large rosters.
Saying it is purely because magneto was one overpowered buff and everyone expects that is a deflection you are using because you can’t accept the truth that after the old program constantly delivered buffs *that were not OP but still amazing* people are fed up of being excited for buffs from this new program that delivers duds.
For me, I'll be happy if a buff is good (like Storm) and continue ignoring garbage champs like TJR. I wasn't using her before July, and I won't be using her now. So nothing has changed.
Don't get me wrong, I'd be jacked if the Groots and Rockets of my roster would become OP like Herc and Nimrod.
This has always been yet another case of this community adding 2+2 and getting 450,000. The stated goal has always been bringing the bottom closer to the middle. Not once was it ever said the intention was to bring old champs to the top or even near that.
They can take their time ( as in one buff per month) and have a look in how to modernize or add onto their kits to fit their class identities in 2022.
Those are the sorts of buffs people are asking for occasionally. Not all the time, not any of them being magneto level (he’s too powerful IMO), not every single one of them being at the top.
Where have you seen someone ask for a magneto level buff? If you can point to anyone saying that I’ll join right with you to tell them that’s a silly ask, buffs shouldn’t be that powerful. The majority of people are not asking for what you’re trying to paint them as saying. Be better than that.
When Miike said “the point of buffs has never been to make every champ a new top champ” I completely agree with him. But the key word here is “every”.
If the point of buffs was to make some champions a new top champ, then the use of the word every is fine. He’s saying ‘not every champ will be a new top champ, but some will be. Not every buff has to be the new top one’. But the use of the word every means that conversely, some will be a new top champ.
However, if buffs are not supposed to make *any* champions the new top champ. Then he wouldn’t have said every. He would have said “the point of buffs has never been to make ANY champ a new top champ”.
So we are not asking for every champion to be the new top champ. We are asking for any champion to be *one of* the new top champs. And when I say top champ, I don’t mean magneto level top champ. I mean some buffs should be in the range of champions that I listed at the start of this post.
1 of the remaining 2 is originally a buff from the previous program that then got tuned up in this one, so at best it's a tenuous example.
The last one is debatable, but lets side with you for arguments sake. 1/9 is a pretty poor showing of examples of why buffs are good at the moment.
We have the same exact program currently with the same stated goals but with a slower cadence.
Also how is the last one debatable? People used Storm for the mutant Abyss challenge. Not sure how much more relevant to late game players you want from these.
I view it as Old program: Time spent was only on the buff program
New program: Time is now spent on balancing, but occasional buffs.
It's not an opinion that less time is being spent on buffs now. To me, I make a differentiation between the pre and post balancing announcement because they spend different amounts of time on them, that's a fundamental change in the ethos of a program and therefore I label them different programs. If you'd rather say they are the same program, sure, be my guest! But you cannot deny the fact that less time is now being spent on the buffs.
Furthermore, I believe it's a pretty logical connection that less time on the buffs means lower quality since they cannot try more exciting things, change as much or be as adventurous. Just look at the recent buffs, staying away from how good a champion is do you really think that in terms of abilities added, these buffs are anything near to what we had in general before the recalibration of time committed to buffs?
Less time spent on buffs, lower quality buffs afterwards that are 1) less adventurous with abilites and 2) less impactful
How many of those end game players are using her without Apoc?
Sometimes... less is more. It may not be the best for something designed to be collected/sold as such, but in terms of making a quality game where all the characters matter with minimal testing... it helps a lot.