Imagine cancelling anybody over anything and demanding free speech and the right to your own opinions lol just a bunch of Muppet sheep 🐑..
Don't mistake freedom of speech with being able to say whatever you want mate. If I'm right in what they said, it was bang out of order.
Imagine finding jokes offensive... Freedom of speech is cool until the other one says something I don't like I guess
You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.
Hmmmmm, the power or right to express one's opinions without censorship, restraint, or legal penalty.
If that's not it then please enlighten me
No.
Am I failing to see something here? I don't understand why you said 'You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.'
And what you said isn't the definition. You can be censored, restrained and incur legal penalties, just not from the government.
Well, Google and Oxford Languages lied to me... But I can see where you coming from. You took my words a bit more literally than you should have and maybe you missed the actual point of my comment
Imagine cancelling anybody over anything and demanding free speech and the right to your own opinions lol just a bunch of Muppet sheep 🐑..
Don't mistake freedom of speech with being able to say whatever you want mate. If I'm right in what they said, it was bang out of order.
Imagine finding jokes offensive... Freedom of speech is cool until the other one says something I don't like I guess
You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.
Hmmmmm, the power or right to express one's opinions without censorship, restraint, or legal penalty.
If that's not it then please enlighten me
No.
Am I failing to see something here? I don't understand why you said 'You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.'
And what you said isn't the definition. You can be censored, restrained and incur legal penalties, just not from the government.
Well, Google and Oxford Languages lied to me... But I can see where you coming from. You took my words a bit more literally than you should have and maybe you missed the actual point of my comment
No, I get it. Homophobia is silly to you. "Jokes" shouldn't matter at all.
Imagine cancelling anybody over anything and demanding free speech and the right to your own opinions lol just a bunch of Muppet sheep 🐑..
Don't mistake freedom of speech with being able to say whatever you want mate. If I'm right in what they said, it was bang out of order.
Imagine finding jokes offensive... Freedom of speech is cool until the other one says something I don't like I guess
You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.
Hmmmmm, the power or right to express one's opinions without censorship, restraint, or legal penalty.
If that's not it then please enlighten me
No.
Am I failing to see something here? I don't understand why you said 'You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.'
And what you said isn't the definition. You can be censored, restrained and incur legal penalties, just not from the government.
Well, Google and Oxford Languages lied to me... But I can see where you coming from. You took my words a bit more literally than you should have and maybe you missed the actual point of my comment
No, I get it. Homophobia is silly to you. "Jokes" shouldn't matter at all.
It’s def silly to them, I’m sure they would love to say whatever pops in their head whenever they want regardless of what others feelings are and while they are absolutely free to do that, to your point it does not exempt them from consequences from the public at large.
Although if I’m honest, I would rather these types of folks felt emboldened to say these things, this way I know who to avoid.
Imagine cancelling anybody over anything and demanding free speech and the right to your own opinions lol just a bunch of Muppet sheep 🐑..
Don't mistake freedom of speech with being able to say whatever you want mate. If I'm right in what they said, it was bang out of order.
Imagine finding jokes offensive... Freedom of speech is cool until the other one says something I don't like I guess
You should really go back and look up the definition of freedom of speech.
Hmmmmm, the power or right to express one's opinions without censorship, restraint, or legal penalty.
If that's not it then please enlighten me
I really didn’t want to weigh in on this but you’re so close to getting it.
Freedom of speech was perfectly exercised. Trucos said what he wanted to say. The words were not censored, he was not forced to remove or alter them by anybody, and he faced no legal ramifications for engaging in his speech.
In response to his speech, others utilized *their right to free speech* to tell him they didn’t like what he had to say. This exercise of free speech by other people did not *force* Trucos to remove a post or alter his behavior in any way. He *chose* to respond in the way he did. He faced no consequences other than others exercising the very same right that he used.
He now chooses to exercise his freedom to *not* say anything, which is also his choice and not something forced upon him by anybody. Nobody with any authority or power over Trucos forced or influenced this decision in any way.
That’s how freedom of speech works. You can say what you want, people can respond how they want. If you don’t like the response you get, then maybe you decide not to say those things anymore. But nobody forces anything.
Freedom of speech guarantees that the government won’t punish you for what you say. Freedom of speech doesn’t save you from the court of public opinion.
Just to wrap that aspect of the conversation up, it's not a question of freedom of speech. People have the right to express their opinions. However, they also must face the consequences and reactions of those opinions. When people call it out, they're responsible for the effects of those words. I'm definitely not an angel. I have a pretty twisted sense of humor. I'm also aware that my humor is not appropriate for many people. Which is why I share jokes in a private setting with people who share like humor. That's not the same as being a voice that's heard by many people, in a public format. The guidelines are somewhat different. It's not a joke shared among friends. It's a statement that is felt by many. Yes, people have the right to speak. That right comes with the responsibility of the effects of those words. We wouldn't reside in a civilized society if everyone said whatever hurtful or disrespectful thing that came to mind, whenever they felt it. Words are power. That power is magnified with a large platform. Just registering so the conversation can move on.
when people smell the hint of a political debate no one holds back these days. People on these forums childish for arguing about this stuff imo
Yes, because arguing about a mobile game is any better. We're grown adults who argue on the forums constantly about something that's not even real but political stuff is the childish thing.
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But I can see where you coming from. You took my words a bit more literally than you should have and maybe you missed the actual point of my comment
Although if I’m honest, I would rather these types of folks felt emboldened to say these things, this way I know who to avoid.
Freedom of speech was perfectly exercised. Trucos said what he wanted to say. The words were not censored, he was not forced to remove or alter them by anybody, and he faced no legal ramifications for engaging in his speech.
In response to his speech, others utilized *their right to free speech* to tell him they didn’t like what he had to say. This exercise of free speech by other people did not *force* Trucos to remove a post or alter his behavior in any way. He *chose* to respond in the way he did. He faced no consequences other than others exercising the very same right that he used.
He now chooses to exercise his freedom to *not* say anything, which is also his choice and not something forced upon him by anybody. Nobody with any authority or power over Trucos forced or influenced this decision in any way.
That’s how freedom of speech works. You can say what you want, people can respond how they want. If you don’t like the response you get, then maybe you decide not to say those things anymore. But nobody forces anything.
I'm definitely not an angel. I have a pretty twisted sense of humor. I'm also aware that my humor is not appropriate for many people. Which is why I share jokes in a private setting with people who share like humor. That's not the same as being a voice that's heard by many people, in a public format. The guidelines are somewhat different. It's not a joke shared among friends. It's a statement that is felt by many.
Yes, people have the right to speak. That right comes with the responsibility of the effects of those words. We wouldn't reside in a civilized society if everyone said whatever hurtful or disrespectful thing that came to mind, whenever they felt it. Words are power. That power is magnified with a large platform.
Just registering so the conversation can move on.
Priorities I guess.