I’ve put in another thread that Battle Grounds should be skill and roster based. If you have an underdeveloped roster then you snooze you lose. Why should cav’s get an easy route to the same rewards.
But then when you look at the BG store I’m pretty sure they have a different store items and values, so the reality is, the rewards they get aren’t worth the same as Paragon players. I don’t think they can buy 6* Sig Stones or 6* shards or R4 material, at least not as cheaply as it costs paragon. So because of that it’s probably right the pool of players they face should be appropriate and roster based.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
And you can't beat someone with a similar strength roster to yours. What makes you think you belong anywhere other than you are?
This is such a terrible argument. There's no shame in losing to someone with a 15700+ roster.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
Is silver 1 'their tier'?
Yes because Kabam decided to put everyone in Bronze, which screwed everything up.
Your argument should be that Paragons should be put in higher tiers to begin with so you never see them unless you progress.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
And you can't beat someone with a similar strength roster to yours. What makes you think you belong anywhere other than you are?
This is such a terrible argument. There's no shame in losing to someone with a 15700+ roster.
There's no shame in losing at all. However, there should be a whole bunch of shame in needing to castrate your deck to get easy wins bc you can't beat anyone near your own level.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
And you can't beat someone with a similar strength roster to yours. What makes you think you belong anywhere other than you are?
This is such a terrible argument. There's no shame in losing to someone with a 15700+ roster.
There's no shame in losing at all. However, there should be a whole bunch of shame in needing to castrate your deck to get easy wins bc you can't beat anyone near your own level.
lol, You seem like a guy who's only strategy to get around a door is to punch through it instead of seeing if it's locked first. Slugging it you in Bronze and Silver vs 15700+ accounts is a waste of everyone time and resources.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
And you can't beat someone with a similar strength roster to yours. What makes you think you belong anywhere other than you are?
This is such a terrible argument. There's no shame in losing to someone with a 15700+ roster.
There's no shame in losing at all. However, there should be a whole bunch of shame in needing to castrate your deck to get easy wins bc you can't beat anyone near your own level.
it seems like you didnt get it. they are saying they got matched to big whales which they arent so in a way they are also affected by matchmaking because they are facing big accounts which they cant beat because of roster strength probably. so they are adjusting roster strength to face rosters of lower strength which is a d move but all in all matchmaking is to be cursed. hopefully kabam does find a way to make matchmaking
Oh I definitely get it. He's been complaining about not being able to win while matching people at his own level or higher since the mode went live. Apparently that's a travesty but neutering his deck to do the same to weaker players is A-OK. It's all kinds of sad imo.
Weaker players shouldn't be able to dodge stacked players and stronger players shouldn't be able to dodge anyone either.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
And you can't beat someone with a similar strength roster to yours. What makes you think you belong anywhere other than you are?
Taking all 30 champs into account, yes the overall deck sizes are similar as I'm using 5* and 4* and they have half 6* and half 2*. However, once the select process has completed my 5* + 4* are facing off against awakened 6* rank 2 + 3. I can defeat some, but they kill my defenders much faster than me given the difference in champs involved.
I'm uncollected with only 3 six star champions. You think it's fair for me to go up against TB players with rank 3 6* champs because half their deck is 2*?
If you can't beat someone with half a roster of 2* champs, then you don't deserve to be in their tier.
And you can't beat someone with a similar strength roster to yours. What makes you think you belong anywhere other than you are?
This is such a terrible argument. There's no shame in losing to someone with a 15700+ roster.
There's no shame in losing at all. However, there should be a whole bunch of shame in needing to castrate your deck to get easy wins bc you can't beat anyone near your own level.
it seems like you didnt get it. they are saying they got matched to big whales which they arent so in a way they are also affected by matchmaking because they are facing big accounts which they cant beat because of roster strength probably. so they are adjusting roster strength to face rosters of lower strength which is a d move but all in all matchmaking is to be cursed. hopefully kabam does find a way to make matchmaking
Oh I definitely get it. He's been complaining about not being able to win while matching people at his own level or higher since the mode went live. Apparently that's a travesty but neutering his deck to do the same to weaker players is A-OK. It's all kinds of sad imo.
Weaker players shouldn't be able to dodge stacked players and stronger players shouldn't be able to dodge anyone either.
No, I've been complaining about getting Paragon only matchups when using a full deck, which is exactly what you say at the bottom. Not sure why you're so combative when we're arguing the same thing.
As ever hidden algorithms force some players into making different decisions, I assume in the given to save time, get better rewards.
I have seen people with 15.8k accounts use a full deck of 4* champs to get through the first levels faster. They match people with all 4* decks as well, so the fight is fair, but imagine some will still Moan.
I see a lot of accounts crying about the matchmaking based on roster/deck and wanted it similar to AW.
In AW, the match making happens on rating and to some extent prestige, but they don’t happen based on SKILL level.
A cavalier/uncollected who has got the skill can beat a TB defenders ?
If the argument goes about match making vs progression levels, then does the cavaliers and uncollected don’t deserve a place in Gold 1/2/3 alliances and deserve only Bronze rewards ?
I see the argument and asking is totally baseless!!
Cheers Vino
AW Rating is a result of success in the game mode. Success is determined by a combination or Roster Depth, Skill, and Strategy. Until proven otherwise, the majority of the player base has decided that this is the best system for matchmaking and would prefer to have it applied to BGs. Saying War Matchmaking isn't determined by Skill is a very short sighted opinion.
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But then when you look at the BG store I’m pretty sure they have a different store items and values, so the reality is, the rewards they get aren’t worth the same as Paragon players. I don’t think they can buy 6* Sig Stones or 6* shards or R4 material, at least not as cheaply as it costs paragon. So because of that it’s probably right the pool of players they face should be appropriate and roster based.
Your argument should be that Paragons should be put in higher tiers to begin with so you never see them unless you progress.
Weaker players shouldn't be able to dodge stacked players and stronger players shouldn't be able to dodge anyone either.
However, once the select process has completed my 5* + 4* are facing off against awakened 6* rank 2 + 3.
I can defeat some, but they kill my defenders much faster than me given the difference in champs involved.
I have seen people with 15.8k accounts use a full deck of 4* champs to get through the first levels faster. They match people with all 4* decks as well, so the fight is fair, but imagine some will still
Moan.