Is Galan bugged?

ShepShep Member Posts: 172 ★
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Doctor Doom is is able to power control and stagger galan which is not supposed to happen, according to his kit.

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  • ShepShep Member Posts: 172 ★
    @GrassKnuckles
    What it states in both kits.

  • ShepShep Member Posts: 172 ★
    It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.
  • CoppinCoppin Member Posts: 2,601 ★★★★★
    Stagger unables u to get buffs..
    Nullify takes off buffs u got...
  • ReignkingTWReignkingTW Member Posts: 2,773 ★★★★★
    Staggers nullifies, but it isn't a Nullify. Not too confusing :)
  • ShepShep Member Posts: 172 ★
    @BitterSteel That makes more sense.
  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 619 ★★★★
    One question I’m not sure has been answered is if Galan is supposed to apply incinerates on SP2 even if you dex it. Because at the moment it doesn’t apply on hit and instead is on activation despite his SP2 description not explicitly stating that.
  • BitterSteelBitterSteel Member Posts: 9,264 ★★★★★
    Verreaux said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Shep said:

    It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.

    I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

    Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other
    Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

    Yeah agreed, that’s another reason why I said it’s not completely clear (I just forgot to write it lol)

    It is weird that nullify immune champs can have buffs staggered, but they’re likely just coded differently. Would be nice for it to be clearer wording in game though.
  • TyphoonTyphoon Member Posts: 1,875 ★★★★★
    BitterSteel said:

    Verreaux said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Shep said:

    It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.

    I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

    Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other
    Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

    Yeah agreed, that’s another reason why I said it’s not completely clear (I just forgot to write it lol)

    It is weird that nullify immune champs can have buffs staggered, but they’re likely just coded differently. Would be nice for it to be clearer wording in game though.
    Yeah, sym supreme still works great for nullify-immune champs in war. One of those things where I just don't ask questions...
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 8,177 Guardian
    Verreaux said:

    BitterSteel said:

    Shep said:

    It says specifically nullify effects and Stagger is a nullify... The power steal you're correct.

    I see why there’s confusion, and it’s not entirely clear but stagger is not “a nullify”.

    Nullify is nullify, and stagger is something different. If you check someone like Mr Negative, he is explicitly immune to nullify AND stagger, implying a difference and therefore implying someone being immune to one and not the other
    Well to quote Staggers own description: "When a staggered opponent gains a buff, all Buffs triggered at the same time are Nullified". So at least according to its description, a nullify immune champion should not have any buffs removed by Stagger.

    Even though the description says it nullifies, in kabams game system, they probably have stagger and nullify in different categories since they have different purposes. It probably says nullified in the description so we the players know that it removes the buffs, when in all actuality, what it is really doing is its own mechanic called staggered. However you can't have staggered in the definition of what staggers do.

    In conclusion, English sucks.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    It's like the difference between purify and cleanse
  • FeuerschwerFeuerschwer Member Posts: 444 ★★★
    although also, buffs being removed by stagger trigger Doom’s sig ability like nullify…so it’s a bit of a weird edge case. Definitely needs some better wording somewhere.
  • AverageDesiAverageDesi Member Posts: 5,260 ★★★★★
    Feuerschwer said:

    although also, buffs being removed by stagger trigger Doom’s sig ability like nullify…so it’s a bit of a weird edge case. Definitely needs some better wording somewhere.

    Good catch. Although If they change it then doom cheese would no longer exist
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  • Crine60Crine60 Member Posts: 1,446 ★★★★
    Axew said:

    One question I’m not sure has been answered is if Galan is supposed to apply incinerates on SP2 even if you dex it. Because at the moment it doesn’t apply on hit and instead is on activation despite his SP2 description not explicitly stating that.

    We've been asking this for 2.5 months with no response or acknowledgement. I have posted asking about this in multiple threads but here is one of the 1st ones I saw.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/311797/is-galan-supposed-to-be-able-to-do-this#latest
  • AxewAxew Member Posts: 619 ★★★★
    Crine60 said:

    Axew said:

    One question I’m not sure has been answered is if Galan is supposed to apply incinerates on SP2 even if you dex it. Because at the moment it doesn’t apply on hit and instead is on activation despite his SP2 description not explicitly stating that.

    We've been asking this for 2.5 months with no response or acknowledgement. I have posted asking about this in multiple threads but here is one of the 1st ones I saw.

    https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/311797/is-galan-supposed-to-be-able-to-do-this#latest
    Thanks for the post. That’s annoying, I wish they would just acknowledge if it’s intended or a bug, it doesn’t seem difficult to confirm that.
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