Would you R4 him to be Paragon?

JAsummonar

I already have 6r4 Doom. Once I explore this month’s cav eq, I will have enough material to R4 one champ. And I have science 3->4 gem but I don’t have very good options for science rank up. Following are my options


My torch is already r3 and many people say he is not worthy of r4 or if I put it this way, there are other science champs who would do better as r4 compared to the bump HT would get. My questions are..

Would you rank HT just to become Paragon?

Also, from my roster, would you suggest any champ over him?

OR you would suggest to wait for a good champ. If so, who are the champs would you suggest?

PS. I don’t have units and am not in hurry of getting cyber Monday deals but I am really eager to become a Paragon.

Nichj99

Rulk is very good. I also R4 my Thing unduped

MiniMF

I have a R4 spider ham and he's lit, it's a good option, i wouldn't go for HT

Rookiie

I can’t wait to take Torch to R4
The only competition my HT has is iBom, who is probably the only Science champ I would R4 over Torch

JAsummonar

MiniMF said:

I have a R4 spider ham and he's lit, it's a good option, i wouldn't go for HT

Does not he need awakening to be more effective?

JAsummonar

Nichj99 said:

Rulk is very good. I also R4 my Thing unduped

Yes in BG when people ban my torch he is my go to champ.. I like him as well

JAsummonar

Rookiie said:

I can’t wait to take Torch to R4
The only competition my HT has is iBom, who is probably the only Science champ I would R4 over Torch

Could you please help me with reasoning? Or you are saying Torch is your favourite?

JAsummonar

Would you rank CAIW assuming that eventually you would dupe him? OR void?

Not ignoring you mr. fantastic!!

Malreck04

Torch rulk are both good options

Rookiie

JAsummonar said:

Rookiie said:

I can’t wait to take Torch to R4
The only competition my HT has is iBom, who is probably the only Science champ I would R4 over Torch

Could you please help me with reasoning? Or you are saying Torch is your favourite?

1) Still the best option for Mystic champions
2) Miss counter
3) Regen counter
4) Nova flame passives which nobody is immune to
5) Power sting passives which are good for That’s Gonna Sting nodes
6) Energy damage so he doesn’t take damage from Thorns (Korg, Attuma)
7) Gains a lot of Temperate and Smolder in matchups against champions that deal Energy Damage
8) 3 immunities: Incinerate, Coldsnap and Frostbite

He still makes a compelling case for Top 3 Science.

Hector_1475

With 7* being already here, I would not hesitate to take Torch to R4. He can actually benefit from the health increase and perhaps the combat power rate. He is a solid option stand-alone and he pairs nicely with your Doom. Do it.

Timmy2xs

Mr Fantastic. Torch gets banned in everything. I took mine to R4 and hes probably my favorite champ in the game since then.

Rookiie

Amazing_Demon05 said:

Rookiie said:

JAsummonar said:

Rookiie said:

I can’t wait to take Torch to R4
The only competition my HT has is iBom, who is probably the only Science champ I would R4 over Torch

Could you please help me with reasoning? Or you are saying Torch is your favourite?

He still makes a compelling case for Top 3 Science.

he doesn't make a case for it.
he simply is the top science champ
there is a reason torch is eternally banned in AW
it wouldn't be a stretch to say torch is the reason whitelist became a thing

Yaaaaas

pseudosane

Yes HT is worth it

Ironman3000

with that roster, and it being a 3->4 gem go torch.