Let's get rid of the Pause button in Battlegrounds

thewass1980

This latest season of Battlegrounds has been challenging, with its combination of nodes requiring players to use champions that they might not have used in BG before. But that's not the point of my post today.

Here is my statement: I believe that Kabam should completely eliminate the Pause button during BG matches. Anyone who's been playing BG knows that this button is being misused/abused to essentially run down the clock while their attacker has full health. I can see of no legitimate reason to have a pause button in BG matches: what practical purpose, other than abusing it, does it serve? The timer doesn't pause, the other person's fight doesn't pause. And the continued misuse of this button is causing so many folks to just start the fight, pause, and get their 15,000 points for the match.

Kabam, it might be too late to change it for this season, but I strongly encourage you to remove that ability from Battlegrounds.

Jefechuta

I was very hardly against the pause button but, with this unfair nodes, i think an unfair way to win becomes fair.

GroundedWisdom

Yes, I agree. If you can't commit to a Fight then you don't have time to play it. No reason to have it, much less being used to default a Win.

World Eater

Not until they correct the bug where there’s no fight timer. When there’s no fight timer, the pause menu is the only way to see how much time is in the fight.

Xguard77

I like pause being available, but a max of like 15 seconds would be a fair middleground

Worknprogress

Been saying it needs to be removed since the betas

MarvelSPMAN14

Xguard77 said:

I like pause being available, but a max of like 15 seconds would be a fair middleground

they would just pause before they die and time out

thewass1980

World Eater said:

Not until they correct the bug where there’s no fight timer. When there’s no fight timer, the pause menu is the only way to see how much time is in the fight.

Are you running the latest MCOC version? I've never had this particular issue.

L0TUS_MANTIS

Yes get rid of it. There really is no debate to be had. Its disappointing to see how many players are ok with abusing it. I saw "Pause and get your 15k" a dozen times yesterday

World Eater

thewass1980 said:

World Eater said:

Not until they correct the bug where there’s no fight timer. When there’s no fight timer, the pause menu is the only way to see how much time is in the fight.

Are you running the latest MCOC version? I've never had this particular issue.

Yea I’m running latest versions of MCOC and my devices. I’ve been reporting the no-fight-timer problem since betas, over 6 months ago, but Kabam mods/support have done a great job of ignoring it and burying Their heads in the sand.

https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/305508/battlegrounds-bug-no-fight-timer/p1

Yodabolt21

L0TUS_MANTIS said:

Yes get rid of it. There really is no debate to be had. Its disappointing to see how many players are ok with abusing it. I saw "Pause and get your 15k" a dozen times yesterday

The be better and get more than 15k points. I’ve won a handful of matches easily where they paused “got their 15k” and got destroyed. I look at it as an easy win when that happens.

thewass1980

Yodabolt21 said:

L0TUS_MANTIS said:

Yes get rid of it. There really is no debate to be had. Its disappointing to see how many players are ok with abusing it. I saw "Pause and get your 15k" a dozen times yesterday

The be better and get more than 15k points. I’ve won a handful of matches easily where they paused “got their 15k” and got destroyed. I look at it as an easy win when that happens.

Git Gud is really your response? And you're fine with a feature that's being widely abused?

Aleor

How about first they implement correct time calculating? With Android device you lose 10-15 seconds of fight whole staring at loading screen
Pause button is available to both players, nothing unfair here

Giantslayer88

If you are getting beat by people running out the clock, remember this is a PVP mode so your opponent is dealing with the same features you are so there’s no reason to say it isn’t fair. If you have a good defender and suspect your opponent will run out the time, you could always dash back at the start of the fight then land one hit, even into a block if it does damage, then pause yourself. Outthink your opponent who is dealing with the same feature and win by a few points, problem solved! If that sounds too risky just remember your opponent takes that risk every time they try the time out method.

Chatterofforums

I see all these arguments a lot lately, and I really have to wonder what fights ya doing where 15k gets a win? I think I've seen maybe 3 times in my last 100 BG fights or so (to include last season) where 15k would win the round.

JessieS

I feel like a lot of people around here don’t really understand how life works . While the hardcore gamers may be the most active part and the ones that gives the most money the largest part of the player base are normal everyday people who want to have fun and who you know … actually have a life . Pausing has always been an important part of every mode because it allows to literally pause if something comes up without losing a match . It would be beyond absurd to remove it just because a few people suck so much they can even make over 15k points per match

NastyPhish

They should be actively discouraging clock abuse or the number one Nick fury counter is going to become pausing. Since there is a negligible point difference between actually killing him and getting him to 1% and pausing.

This type of play should be discouraged.

I think the solution is 15-30 second pauses. But after a minute into the fight. It goes away. To prevent any pause timeout shenanigans.

CoatHang3r

As pointed out previously removing the pause button does nothing when you can get the same effect by putting the app in the background or force closing it. You’re going to need a more creative solution.

GroundedWisdom

CoatHang3r said:

As pointed out previously removing the pause button does nothing when you can get the same effect by putting the app in the background or force closing it. You’re going to need a more creative solution.

I suppose you could add an automatic Forfeit if that happens.

DNA3000

GroundedWisdom said:

CoatHang3r said:

As pointed out previously removing the pause button does nothing when you can get the same effect by putting the app in the background or force closing it. You’re going to need a more creative solution.

I suppose you could add an automatic Forfeit if that happens.

I accidentally swipe up/down near the top of my phone all the time. If all of those became automatic forfeits, I would be somewhat perturbed.

GroundedWisdom

DNA3000 said:

GroundedWisdom said:

CoatHang3r said:

As pointed out previously removing the pause button does nothing when you can get the same effect by putting the app in the background or force closing it. You’re going to need a more creative solution.

I suppose you could add an automatic Forfeit if that happens.

I accidentally swipe up/down near the top of my phone all the time. If all of those became automatic forfeits, I would be somewhat perturbed.

Fair. I don't mean to be so staunch on the subject, I just think something intended to account for life happening shouldn't become an easy Win for people.

GroundedWisdom

Perhaps a timed Penalty that allows a certain amount of forgiveness, and then deducts Points.

GroundedWisdom

It's not a total fix, but it makes it less advantageous and more risky.

AustinU823

Pause button abusers will disagree heavily but I’m fully on board. It’s cowardly and on the same level as sandbagging. There’s literally zero reason to pause especially when there’s a pre-fight screen that runs down all the nodes before each fight

Ironman3000

At least add the health penalty for timing out like in every other place w/ a timer.

GroundedWisdom

Another idea is to add a small Degen effect to being paused. Something at a rate which still allows for recovering from legitimate pausing, and things coming up, but still penalizes sitting on Pause the entire Fight.

AustinU823

CoatHang3r said:

As pointed out previously removing the pause button does nothing when you can get the same effect by putting the app in the background or force closing it. You’re going to need a more creative solution.

When that happens in alliance war, it counts as a death. Same should go for BGs

AmaadAkira

How about no

NastyPhish

GroundedWisdom said:

Another idea is to add a small Degen effect to being paused. Something at a rate which still allows for recovering from legitimate pausing, and things coming up, but still penalizes sitting on Pause the entire Fight.

GroundedWisdom said:

Another idea is to add a small Degen effect to being paused. Something at a rate which still allows for recovering from legitimate pausing, and things coming up, but still penalizes sitting on Pause the entire Fight.

This would do it. Pause all you want. You take 1% damage per second. This hits far enough to both sides to be just about perfect

Plantesan

Aleor said:

How about first they implement correct time calculating? With Android device you lose 10-15 seconds of fight whole staring at loading screen
Pause button is available to both players, nothing unfair here

Just means those abusing it are a bunch of spineless cowards…if you (those using it) can’t handle fighting, at least have the honor of taking the combo to your champ properly. Hopefully some kind of solution can be provided

DrZola

Pausing is a calculated strategy, just like holding in blackjack.

Not sure why anyone has an issue with someone deciding that taking/dealing a certain amount of damage is how they want to end a fight. Typically their scores aren’t that high, so the suggestion for those complaining would be to get better scores than the pausers.

Dr. Zola