Iceman

RiderofHell

Was mentioned he getting a lighter update is it just the coldsnap immunity or something else as well? Bc that be really disappointing if it's only immunity to coldsnap lol.

Pikolu

It also said they're increasing his damage

Ortoun

To be fair, he doesn't really need much to make him decent, and there isn't a ton of stuff that would make sense to add to his kit, maybe put some frostbite on opponent when his armor shatters or something.

Adevati

Alright stop, collaborate and listen. Ice is back with my brand new invention.

RiderofHell

Catmanndo said:

This is promising, i wonder if they’ll stick to the trend of rolling their awakened ability into their kit and adding something new?

I like that where they take their sig ability and add to their kit where you don't necessary need dupes to be awesome but we all know dupes are awesome lol

SirGamesBond

Gotta fix his second medium hit box...
And Yes. That's the only reason I despise using him.
Iceman suffers from 2019 sym, torch, og guilly etc hit box issue. Super hard to parry mid screen after his second medium.

Squammo

Hopefully he wont be immune to cold snap but rather heal from it, so be resistant to it.

Chobbly

Nocko said:

Adevati said:

Alright stop, collaborate and listen. Ice is back with my brand new invention.

Something grabs a hold of me tightly. Flow like a harpoon daily and nightly/
Will it ever stop? Yo I don't know

You might want to stop. Kabam could change their mind about buffing Iceman if you carry on.

BigPoppaCBONE

Spring 2024. His Frostbite and Coldsnap damage will be increased but the duration will increase also. Resulting in a net dps loss. He'll be coldsnap but not frostbite immune.

Texas_11

Just took my iceman to R4 so good news . Excited to see what they decide to do. I imagine increasing the chance on crits to 100% apply a frostbite instead of 40% which i think it is now.

Sw0rdMaster

Can somebody post the link to the announcement?

SirGamesBond

Sw0rdMaster said:

Can somebody post the link to the announcement?

It's the first post in news and announcements

AzKicker316

Took mine to r3 today, can't wait. He's an OG, one of the champs that I used a ton as a 4* and 5*!

Now they just need to add Magik and Quake to the 6* pool!

13579rebel_

AzKicker316 said:

Took mine to r3 today, can't wait. He's an OG, one of the champs that I used a ton as a 4* and 5*!

Now they just need to add Magik and Quake to the 6* pool!

And wolverine

Deacon

Sw0rdMaster said:

Can somebody post the link to the announcement?

here's the bulk of it ..

What’s Next
We’re currently working on a lighter update to Iceman! We’ll be looking to bring his base damage up and make some tweaks to his Utility. Yes, he will be Immune to Coldsnap.

Magrailothos

Catmanndo said:

This is promising, i wonder if they’ll stick to the trend of rolling their awakened ability into their kit and adding something new?

That, and some kind of Damage boost on the SP2 is the usual thing...

Axew

Hopefully we see some unique utility added to his kit to make him stand out in the mutant class

SpideyFunko

13579rebel_ said:

AzKicker316 said:

Took mine to r3 today, can't wait. He's an OG, one of the champs that I used a ton as a 4* and 5*!

Now they just need to add Magik and Quake to the 6* pool!

And wolverine

Don’t know why there isn’t six star Magic or Wolverine

Mkdemaria

I'd be excited for 6* Quake in a Feature.

Viking_St3v3

Great! I posted on this a few months back. The fact that he is not immune to coldsnap is fairly ridiculous. He should be immune to anything cold related as you know his name is ICEMAN.

Shadowstrike

Axew said:

Hopefully we see some unique utility added to his kit to make him stand out in the mutant class

I don't know how more unique you can make him, he has quite a few immunities as is (Bleed, Poison, Incinerate) and with the exception of the upcoming cold snap immunity, the stuff that he isn't immune to makes the most sense.

Anybody who plays Iceman knows all of his tricks, so they'll tell you he doesn't need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

DemonicStalker

iceman

Basic hits deal energy instead of physical damage
Coldsnap and (hopefully frostite) immunities
Frostbite debuff reduces both offensive and defensive ability accuracy by 15% to 18% per frostbite
Opponents suffering from frostbite are slowed (cannot trigger evade and unstoppable)
Whenever a debuff is purified, gain 1 prowess
Iceman's prowess debuffs last x seconds and deals +X% special attack damage
Ice armor can also block unblockable special attacks

Should have new synergies with vision aarkus, sasquatch, warlock, rogue and kitty pryde...

pathak_arp

I think it's high time they introduce nova flame immunity in game and iceman seems perfect for it

K00shMaan

The buff can be very minimal and be effective. He has a ton of utility already. What separates him from what we consider good champs is the he never benefits from any of that utility triggering. 4 immunities (bleed, poison, incinerate, stun) but nothing good happens when they're triggered. He can prevent evade via coldsnap but once again nothing positive happens when that ability triggers. What makes champions great are usually some other positive effect when their abilities are otherwise triggered. Human Torch for example gains a smolder every time his incinerate immunity triggers. That makes you particularly encouraged to use him when you need his immunity because he's also actually stronger than normal in those matchups. Kingpin not only shrugs off the debuffs but converts them to rage/overpower which once again powers him up in situation where you need his utility. Adding one or two changes to Iceman's abilities so that doing the things he does well also enhances his damage is probably enough to make him a really solid champ again.

altavista

What would be really exciting would be if they added a Lover's Synergy, with some Coming Soon mystery boxes.
Daken would be cool especially if they had some type of pheromones abilities.

Logan00

What about BPCW? Wasn't his buff announced long ago and no news afterwards?

Axew

Shadowstrike said:

Axew said:

Hopefully we see some unique utility added to his kit to make him stand out in the mutant class

I don't know how more unique you can make him, he has quite a few immunities as is (Bleed, Poison, Incinerate) and with the exception of the upcoming cold snap immunity, the stuff that he isn't immune to makes the most sense.

Anybody who plays Iceman knows all of his tricks, so they'll tell you he doesn't need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

I’m not saying he’s bad, but Emma has all those immunities + she’s also an evade counter. Frankly he’s a worse version of her, barring the ice armor.

I just want to see him stand out in the mutant class, like giving him a power “freeze” to control the enemy’s power or the ability to freeze enemies (like mantis’ sleep but exclusive to iceman). I don’t expect a whole rework, just some additions.

Texas_11

Axew said:

Shadowstrike said:

Axew said:

Hopefully we see some unique utility added to his kit to make him stand out in the mutant class

I don't know how more unique you can make him, he has quite a few immunities as is (Bleed, Poison, Incinerate) and with the exception of the upcoming cold snap immunity, the stuff that he isn't immune to makes the most sense.

Anybody who plays Iceman knows all of his tricks, so they'll tell you he doesn't need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

I’m not saying he’s bad, but Emma has all those immunities + she’s also an evade counter. Frankly he’s a worse version of her, barring the ice armor.

I just want to see him stand out in the mutant class, like giving him a power “freeze” to control the enemy’s power or the ability to freeze enemies (like mantis’ sleep but exclusive to iceman). I don’t expect a whole rework, just some additions.

I disagree, Emma loses a lot of utility when you are going to try to use her DPS form. He is better for straight immunities and can tank SP3. I honestly never relied on Emma for her immunities, she and iceman are similar but iceman is more effective . She does have a good evade counter though.

Axew

Texas_11 said:

Axew said:

Shadowstrike said:

Axew said:

Hopefully we see some unique utility added to his kit to make him stand out in the mutant class

I don't know how more unique you can make him, he has quite a few immunities as is (Bleed, Poison, Incinerate) and with the exception of the upcoming cold snap immunity, the stuff that he isn't immune to makes the most sense.

Anybody who plays Iceman knows all of his tricks, so they'll tell you he doesn't need to be rebuilt from the ground up.

I’m not saying he’s bad, but Emma has all those immunities + she’s also an evade counter. Frankly he’s a worse version of her, barring the ice armor.

I just want to see him stand out in the mutant class, like giving him a power “freeze” to control the enemy’s power or the ability to freeze enemies (like mantis’ sleep but exclusive to iceman). I don’t expect a whole rework, just some additions.

I disagree, Emma loses a lot of utility when you are going to try to use her DPS form. He is better for straight immunities and can tank SP3. I honestly never relied on Emma for her immunities, she and iceman are similar but iceman is more effective . She does have a good evade counter though.

I agree she loses that immunity utility in her DPS form, but you can easily retain the diamond form by spamming SP1s. Ice Man is more consistent though, he keeps those immunities constantly and can tank SP3s as you said.

I just hope we don’t get a Psychoman or Nova type buff which “increases” his damage marginally and does nothing to boost his utility. I would love to see a couple minor additions to his kit that make him more unique.