40 features 3 featured champs
Pandingo
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Yup. Just sharing. Im done until the odds are legitimately displayed and numbers run by a streamer. This is disgusting. Naturally duped bb to 200 and cw to 100. This can't be legitimate.
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Is it random? Feels like it. But all I am is a single data point.
Dr. Zola
Just bad rng for you
You open that crystal, you’ll get a 6 star. That’s all you know for sure.
Absorbing man - 3
Shuri - 1
iDoom - 1
Other pulls were one each of Sasquatch, Civil Warrior, Mr. Sinister, OG Spidey, Gambit, Sun Spot, Daredevil, Overseer, Agent Venom, Ant Man, King Groot.
It's random.
It would still be 100% chance to be a six star.
No text in game explicitly states all champion pull chances are equal. Although they are.
Also, it is always illegitimate when one of them gets bad luck. It never matters how often anyone else gets good luck, because good luck is an anecdote, bad luck is data.
I know many other things for sure about champion crystals. I know that while I cannot prove champion crystals are absolutely perfectly evenly random, I have opened enough of them to know that most of the *ways* people claim they are broken are false. For example, the featured crystals are not skewed away from new featureds. I have a couple hundred openings of featured crystals to be able to determine that no such obvious skew exists. If it exists, it has to be small enough to not show up in my data, and anything that small isn't going to be noticeable by a player opening a few crystals. I know there's no strong skew away from "god tier champs" because that also would show up in the crystal data I have.
Whatever skews could possibly exist, they would have to be small enough to evade detection. And I've seen enough crystal openings to know that "small enough" is too small for any one player opening any small number of crystals to be able to detect with just eyeballs. You'd need thousands of crystal openings to detect such a small skew.
We can never know if the crystal is absolutely random, because there is no test for absolute randomness. In a random crystal, all sequences of drops are equally likely, which means even unlikely sequences will happen over enough openings. All we can say is how closely the crystals deviate from what we'd expect random crystals to generate. And across all data that doesn't contain biases, that range of possibilities is very narrow.
1x Gambit
1x Absorbing man
3x iDoom
They could, for example, state on the 6* featured "every champ listed drops evenly from the crystal" and that would be wrong, because every champ doesn't drop evenly. Every champ as an equal chance to drop, but by definition it is extremely unlikely that every champ would drop an identical number of times. If we say "every champ listed as an equal chance to drop from the crystal" the tin foil hat brigade could argue that Groot drops more often because there's two different Groots in the crystal, each with the same chance to drop. We would have to say something like "each of the twenty four champs listed in the crystal contents has a one in twenty four chance to drop per crystal opening, with each crystal opening generated independently and each crystal opening having identical drop mechanics for all players regardless of account status."
And then you would have to translate that unambiguously and without nuance errors into all the other languages besides English. And *then* the crystal crazies would resort to saying that since the Featured crystal contains this disclaimer and the other crystals don't, this proves the other crystals must be rigged, and that's why Kabam was deliberately avoiding placing the same disclaimer. So you would have to do this again and again and again, modifying the language to take into account rarity distributions (which are stated and not equal) and basic pool updates and featured odds and nexus crystals.
And even if we did that for all crystals, we would then have to counter the fact that bugs sometimes happen, and every time a crystal is bugged in such a way to not behave identically to the extremely lengthy pedantic crystal mechanics description, this would be ammunition to the deRNGed that since the crystal doesn't follow the description exactly all the time, the descriptions can't be trusted at all.
Or, we can dispense with all of that and just say crazy people are going to be crazy, and we just have to tolerate them and/or ignore them while we go on with our lives.
At least I farmed quite a lot of 7* shards on that.
Not what I would have expected, and not the luck I usually have.
Dr. Zola
Is this including your original “can’t believe the odds” post saying approx 26 crystals and only 1 new feature ?
If so, your luck has improved. So of the latest 14, you got 2 new ones ? Still below average, but better than first post, and still statistically probable (actually 40 crystals of the very exact same champ for all 40 is technically possible too, doesn’t necessarily mean conspiracy)
Kabam official statements were previously shown in your prior crystals post. In these type of crystals, NO champ has better or worse odds than any other champ.