Feels like kabam expects players to make zero mistakes for any progress

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  • SkyeBerrySkyeBerry Member Posts: 90
    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is
  • WorknprogressWorknprogress Member Posts: 7,233 ★★★★★
    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is
    You really need to learn how to ask for help
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,669 ★★★★★
    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is


    You literally had someone ask you to post your roster so they could help you and this was your response…

    Sigh.
  • SkyeBerrySkyeBerry Member Posts: 90
    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is


    You literally had someone ask you to post your roster so they could help you and this was your response…

    Sigh.
    I've literally posted my roster in a thread asking for help, I've posted it multiple times too, maybe instead of being rude about it and going "bruh skill issue skill issue" you could try to actually be helpful.
  • SkyeBerrySkyeBerry Member Posts: 90
    SkyeBerry said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is
    You really need to learn how to ask for help
    If the words "hey I'm asking for help here" aren't enough for you to realize someone's asking for help you lack a brain entirely
    And if you're basing your "learn to ask for help" off of the title and first comment only, then you need to learn to read a thread before replying
  • FiiNCHFiiNCH Member Posts: 1,669 ★★★★★
    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is


    You literally had someone ask you to post your roster so they could help you and this was your response…

    Sigh.
    I've literally posted my roster in a thread asking for help, I've posted it multiple times too, maybe instead of being rude about it and going "bruh skill issue skill issue" you could try to actually be helpful.
    No offence, but I don’t make it a priority to keep up with all your previous posts.
  • SkyeBerrySkyeBerry Member Posts: 90
    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    SkyeBerry said:

    FiiNCH said:

    Dude seriously bringing up PI when 3 of the top 6 champs shown are Rogue, AV, and Cosmic Spidey 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    I mean looking at OP’a responses, in all likelihood you’re arguing with a child/teenager
    So you never wanted to help, you just wanted to be rude, thanks
    Looking at your responses so far why would I bother? You just want me to tell you life’s not fair and this game is set up against you.
    Why would I respond politely to people not trying to help just being rude calling me bad at the game, on a thread where I'm asking for help? Use your brain man
    Your post didn’t ask any specific questions or for any help though, you were just whinging. Then we told you it’s much easier now than when the content originally launched and now you’re having a tantrum telling us all ‘we don’t know what it’s like being a new player’.

    Not really the best way to seek help in my opinion…
    If that's all you high level players got out of this post, then you really need to learn what empathy is


    You literally had someone ask you to post your roster so they could help you and this was your response…

    Sigh.
    I've literally posted my roster in a thread asking for help, I've posted it multiple times too, maybe instead of being rude about it and going "bruh skill issue skill issue" you could try to actually be helpful.
    No offence, but I don’t make it a priority to keep up with all your previous posts.
    When you're asking for information from someone it's usually good practice to see if they have that information already readily available
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,027 ★★★★★
    SkyeBerry said:



    Actually found an old roster pic from when I was working on Act 5 exploration. Looks like AV had gotten to R5 by then and a few more champs had been ranked. Still, in comparison to having new champs like Knull available, it should be pretty clear that players of today have it significantly easier

    Literally higher PI on your 4* champs than my rank 3 5*s, this is what I mean when I say top level players literally have no idea of the new player experience.

    He uses record tree mastery's. I didnt. This is my account from like 2015.
  • SkyeBerrySkyeBerry Member Posts: 90

    SkyeBerry said:



    Actually found an old roster pic from when I was working on Act 5 exploration. Looks like AV had gotten to R5 by then and a few more champs had been ranked. Still, in comparison to having new champs like Knull available, it should be pretty clear that players of today have it significantly easier

    Literally higher PI on your 4* champs than my rank 3 5*s, this is what I mean when I say top level players literally have no idea of the new player experience.

    He uses record tree mastery's. I didnt. This is my account from like 2015.
    Ok, and this is the roster you used to beat collector? Like I genuinely want to have a discussion here and get some help, just too many high level players telling me "too bad it was harder for us" and acting like that's some advice I can use to get better or something
  • SkyeBerrySkyeBerry Member Posts: 90
    SkyeBerry said:

    SkyeBerry said:



    Actually found an old roster pic from when I was working on Act 5 exploration. Looks like AV had gotten to R5 by then and a few more champs had been ranked. Still, in comparison to having new champs like Knull available, it should be pretty clear that players of today have it significantly easier

    Literally higher PI on your 4* champs than my rank 3 5*s, this is what I mean when I say top level players literally have no idea of the new player experience.

    He uses record tree mastery's. I didnt. This is my account from like 2015.
    Ok, and this is the roster you used to beat collector? Like I genuinely want to have a discussion here and get some help, just too many high level players telling me "too bad it was harder for us" and acting like that's some advice I can use to get better or something
    If it isn't, then do you remember what PI ish you had, or at least the champion ranks? It feels like I need someone with the same kind of stats to be able to not just act all superior
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,027 ★★★★★
    SkyeBerry said:

    SkyeBerry said:



    Actually found an old roster pic from when I was working on Act 5 exploration. Looks like AV had gotten to R5 by then and a few more champs had been ranked. Still, in comparison to having new champs like Knull available, it should be pretty clear that players of today have it significantly easier

    Literally higher PI on your 4* champs than my rank 3 5*s, this is what I mean when I say top level players literally have no idea of the new player experience.

    He uses record tree mastery's. I didnt. This is my account from like 2015.
    Ok, and this is the roster you used to beat collector? Like I genuinely want to have a discussion here and get some help, just too many high level players telling me "too bad it was harder for us" and acting like that's some advice I can use to get better or something
    No, it's not but it's what I was exploring act 4 and 5 with.

    You don't seem to want to be helped though because many have given you advice and you've been hostile nearly everyone here. You've yet to post your roster and other than complaining about being hit, you haven't said what you're struggling with.
  • xNigxNig Member Posts: 7,330 ★★★★★
    Wait till you meet end game content that takes off your full boosted bar of health in 3 hits…
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  • GOTGGOTG Member Posts: 1,040 ★★★★
    SkyeBerry said:

    Like the title says. I've been stuck on 5.1.6 for about a month now, and it's genuinely so stupid. How does kabam expect the average player to make any progress when the first iron man in the quest, takes a 5/50 knull to less than 50% health in a single 5 hit combo. So I make a single mistake, get hit once, and there's a 80% chance from there that I'm all of a sudden at 44% health OR LESS if he had a special saved too, off of only ONE mistake. Then at that point it's better to just restart the whole quest, if that happens 6 fights in? I've just wasted most of my energy. Kabam seems to want people to achieve UC as the kind of baseline for unlocking main content, yet 4* characters literally won't get the average player to UC, and 5*s only really start coming in after you already have UC anyways.

    Tldr, the balance in act 5 is abysmal for your average player, despite the best content being locked behind UC.

    You should ... get good.

    Iron man? Really? What kind of Iron man that is difficult to beat? And if you get hit you lose health that's simple and obvious. You want to be invincible and clear whole quest losing no health lol?

    Really? Still can't comprehend what I've just read.
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  • ThePharcideThePharcide Member Posts: 211 ★★★
    @SkyeBerry according to your roster pic in another thread this is you.



    As I said in another post, I took my QS to r3 and ran that IM.

    It's very doable if you take the time to look over your roster, mastery tree, and learn different champs. Added a video of my QS that has lower PI to show its doable without a 5/50

    https://youtu.be/j9Vw69rOqpE

    Don't just focus on the "God tiers" sometimes the overlooked champs are better. NOT that QS is overlooked but you could definitely try different teams.
  • ZolobacsiZolobacsi Member Posts: 127 ★★
    SkyeBerry said:

    Mate when act 5 was released ,everyone used to do it with 4*s and even 3*s; 5*s were almost non existent at that time, now players use 6* in these contents and still complain. This is not a roster issue but more of a skill and planning issue.
    If I remember correctly this is the brute force and kinetic instigator quest… post your roster here and people can help you plan your path but the skills are all yours so you gotta improve on that aspect yourself

    "Mate" when you're getting one mistake ruining your chances at beating an entire quest, that's just bad game design
    If you think one mistake is not fair in act5 wait for act6😄 Even tuned down it's painful. Acts are the things not going anywhere and you have time to prepare for them, better counters, more practice, grinding revievs and potions. Check out videos for easy path or path specific, there are plenty. For that iron man, I don't know the nods but in acts if it's metal, then Magneto is an easy solution 99,99% of the time.
  • Denslo500Denslo500 Member Posts: 905 ★★★
    @SkyeBerry
    1) you are correct, but at least it is 50% health loss. When I went through, one mistake = death.
    2) the old levels are harder now, because the AI is better than it was before. This is partially compensated by you having stronger champs

    What to do:
    Get nick fury and quake/antman. That synergy changes everything.

    Get recoil masteries. Shorter fights = less mistakes
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