Best punishment for MODDERS !

With everything going in the game ATM, this issue needs to be addressed ASAP.

Handling Modders

There are 2 kinds of Modders in the game

1. Modders who are not caught by KABAM
2. Modders who are caught by KABAM

The focus of this post is to make a practical suggestion to KABAM to handle the second kind (one who are caught)

Currently, once a Modder is caught they are banned for a week. After that they can keep their rewards and go around flaunting their LEGEND title and all the Rank 4 / 5 champions they got illegitimately and compete in BGs and join high tier alliances playing AQ / AW. The current punishment seems like a tiny nudge more than a deterrent for Modders.

The following punishment should be dealt to the Modders who are caught:

1. Permanently delete their top 20 champs
2. Reset their story content to ACT 5 (if they have progressed beyond ACT 5)
3. Reset Carina Challenge Objectives
4. Reset Gauntlet Keys
5. Reset Abyss paths
6. Reset EOP Paths
7. Remove the following titles from their account (LEGEND / PARAGON / THRONEBREAKER / ABYSS STARRED BACK)
8. Delete / Empty all catalyst and gems from their inventory

The first response with deleting their top champs is crucial as this is what allows them to unfairly compete in BGs. But then again if they stop modding they won't do that well in BG's anyways. But this will cripple them from join high tier alliances. This will also lower their prestige and stop them from basically using unfairly obtained champs in any kind of content in general until they earn them again fairly.

Most of the resetting content suggestion is aimed at bringing them to a Cavalier status which again might be unfair for other honest cavalier players. But I guess there has to be some compromise. This also gives them a chance for redemption by playing the game honestly and try to win the rewards fairly. I din't include contents like ROL / LOL / Variants on purpose as the rewards from them are already out-dated with the current meta of the game.

Everything above is assuming this is the first time they are caught. If they are caught again it should be a permanent reset on their account. Again they can still choose to play right from ACT 1. All the changes suggested here will give honest players some value to the time and effort they genuinely put in the game and will strongly deter any Modder or their children / grandchildren (as said by our very own @Kabam Miike

) from Modding in the first place.

Comments

WhoDaPoo

I like what Fall Guys did with cheaters/modders. They'd get flagged and put into their own server/lobby. They'd sit on loading screens for longer times and requeue over and over if I remember right. This lets the bot code think it's doing it's job without letting the persons behind it know they got caught.

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Punishment for modding/hacking should be, absolutely, in any case, without a doubt, permanently banned on all associated accounts, and maybe even on future accounts as well.

Crusaderjr

Punishment for modding/hacking should be, absolutely, in any case, without a doubt, permanently banned on all associated accounts, and maybe even on future accounts as well.

should include the most obvious cheaters and the alliances they joined, should be deducted points for any events they participated in. loads of BG cheaters raking up points and many still arent banned. means those alliances are benefiting as well

Xtremenits

@Rohit_316 You may be right about the modders being spenders / whales. But if we continue to play a game where modding is a smart and obvious way to get a head start then what's the point of having any discussion be it revive farming, input issues etc. We need to push KABAM to be more brutal on modders. This will save their game and give honest players more incentive to spend their time / effort and money.

Cano29848

I might add something, once they be caught send them to another server when you can monitor if they still modding. On this server you can shut off all content like eop, abyss, etc or just leave something soo tasty that they can pass the opportunity to mod then perma banned

Vegas_baby

Punishment for modding/hacking should be, absolutely, in any case, without a doubt, permanently banned on all associated accounts, and maybe even on future accounts as well.

I consider this too lenient punishment, I propose to permanently block mobile devices and credit cards for modders!

Langu

I like the idea of moving modders to a separate server so they can "battle" among themselves on the same level.

Just like in bodybuilding, the big guys help out and have their own class. It is illegal/forbidden, everyone knows it, but it is tolerated because there is a big lobby behind it.

Angryneeson52

The only punishment should be a permanent ban. Giving an account a 7 day ban with the hopes the user turns over a new leaf and doesn’t cheat again is not the appropriate way to handle the problem.

Sad that Kabam can’t see that.

Artoria77

Or you know just permanently delete the account that’s been caught modding/cheating.
It’s not that hard

GinjabredMonsta

I agree they should be permanently banned. Don’t even let them play again

Vydra

I could get behind some of those suggestions. It’s still in line with the game team’s idea of making players repent

Just one more suggestion. I have no idea if it’s possible - but if a player is a repeat offender and on multiple accounts, look into an IP/device ban or something. I think IP is the one that can be changed and worked around with? Again, Got no clue but if it’s possible - it’s a good way to permanently erase such vile players

Cyta

The following punishment should be dealt to the Modders who are caught:

1. Permanently delete their top 20 champs
2. Reset their story content to ACT 5 (if they have progressed beyond ACT 5)
3. Reset Carina Challenge Objectives
4. Reset Gauntlet Keys
5. Reset Abyss paths
6. Reset EOP Paths
7. Remove the following titles from their account (LEGEND / PARAGON / THRONEBREAKER / ABYSS STARRED BACK)
8. Delete / Empty all catalyst and gems from their inventory

So if not caught, and got **** openings in those challenges, make it obvious you are a cheater, everything will be reset, and do it again like you did 1st time when undetected...repeat till you are satisfied with the rewards(with eventual 7 days break in between)...sounds like an awesome "punishment"

Chuck_Finley

Not bad OP.

Or you know just permanently delete the account that’s been caught modding/cheating.
It’s not that hard

This is the only answer if a game is serious about cheating.

SirGamesBond

Yep,
Rewards stripped with progression reset to the point when they started modding.

Chuck_Finley

Anything less than a permanent ban ignores the losses legit players suffer from modders.

Why is this NEVER discussed? I mean if we are going with a strike or regression stance in hopes of “repentance” - well, (to keep the analogy in the moral/religious categories) where is the “restitution” to those harmed?

Right now there is none. Less than permanent bans requires restitution to those alliances or BG opponents who suffered from it.

Of course, those affected by modders in today’s set up have to spend more to compensate for their losses to modders….

Draw your own conclusions.

Mackey

Points 2,3,4,5,6 are a bit silly. You want their progress to reset so that they're allowed to go back in get the rewards all over again ... likely by modding 🤔

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Mackey

Anything less than a permanent ban ignores the losses legit players suffer from modders.

Why is this NEVER discussed? I mean if we are going with a strike or regression stance in hopes of “repentance” - well, (to keep the analogy in the moral/religious categories) where is the “restitution” to those harmed?

Right now there is none. Less than permanent bans requires restitution to those alliances or BG opponents who suffered from it.

Of course, those affected by modders in today’s set up have to spend more to compensate for their losses to modders….

Draw your own conclusions.

Right with you there, its extremely shameful that Kabam haven't even touched on the topic of the loss of resources honest players lose to modders. It's bad enough we lose to them and then lose our resources but for them to just get a week ban and be allowed back out is a huge kick in the teeth

tusharNair

With everything going in the game ATM, this issue needs to be addressed ASAP.

Handling Modders

There are 2 kinds of Modders in the game

1. Modders who are not caught by KABAM
2. Modders who are caught by KABAM

The focus of this post is to make a practical suggestion to KABAM to handle the second kind (one who are caught)

Currently, once a Modder is caught they are banned for a week. After that they can keep their rewards and go around flaunting their LEGEND title and all the Rank 4 / 5 champions they got illegitimately and compete in BGs and join high tier alliances playing AQ / AW. The current punishment seems like a tiny nudge more than a deterrent for Modders.

The following punishment should be dealt to the Modders who are caught:

1. Permanently delete their top 20 champs
2. Reset their story content to ACT 5 (if they have progressed beyond ACT 5)
3. Reset Carina Challenge Objectives
4. Reset Gauntlet Keys
5. Reset Abyss paths
6. Reset EOP Paths
7. Remove the following titles from their account (LEGEND / PARAGON / THRONEBREAKER / ABYSS STARRED BACK)
8. Delete / Empty all catalyst and gems from their inventory

The first response with deleting their top champs is crucial as this is what allows them to unfairly compete in BGs. But then again if they stop modding they won't do that well in BG's anyways. But this will cripple them from join high tier alliances. This will also lower their prestige and stop them from basically using unfairly obtained champs in any kind of content in general until they earn them again fairly.

Most of the resetting content suggestion is aimed at bringing them to a Cavalier status which again might be unfair for other honest cavalier players. But I guess there has to be some compromise. This also gives them a chance for redemption by playing the game honestly and try to win the rewards fairly. I din't include contents like ROL / LOL / Variants on purpose as the rewards from them are already out-dated with the current meta of the game.

Everything above is assuming this is the first time they are caught. If they are caught again it should be a permanent reset on their account. Again they can still choose to play right from ACT 1. All the changes suggested here will give honest players some value to the time and effort they genuinely put in the game and will strongly deter any Modder or their children / grandchildren (as said by our very own @Kabam Miike ) from Modding in the first place.

I am with perma delete the acc bandwagon if cheating(anything that violates ToS). But if kabam is not strong enough to do it, all the OP said and a nice Cheater profile pic on their account which overlays whatever the player puts there

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Ghost_Fan

Punishment for modding/hacking should be, absolutely, in any case, without a doubt, permanently banned on all associated accounts, and maybe even on future accounts as well.

No. They must suffer first!

Eb0ny-O-M4w

Punishment for modding/hacking should be, absolutely, in any case, without a doubt, permanently banned on all associated accounts, and maybe even on future accounts as well.
No. They must suffer first!

Give them Groots on all of their next 6-stars before banning the account

Ghost_Fan

Punishment for modding/hacking should be, absolutely, in any case, without a doubt, permanently banned on all associated accounts, and maybe even on future accounts as well.
No. They must suffer first!
Give them Groots on all of their next 6-stars before banning the account

Devil would like to meet you

Syndicated

It's a Lot of work to Kabam, they Will keep the one week ban and that's all.

Stellar

With everything going in the game ATM, this issue needs to be addressed ASAP.

Handling Modders

There are 2 kinds of Modders in the game

1. Modders who are not caught by KABAM
2. Modders who are caught by KABAM

The focus of this post is to make a practical suggestion to KABAM to handle the second kind (one who are caught)

Currently, once a Modder is caught they are banned for a week. After that they can keep their rewards and go around flaunting their LEGEND title and all the Rank 4 / 5 champions they got illegitimately and compete in BGs and join high tier alliances playing AQ / AW. The current punishment seems like a tiny nudge more than a deterrent for Modders.

The following punishment should be dealt to the Modders who are caught:

1. Permanently delete their top 20 champs
2. Reset their story content to ACT 5 (if they have progressed beyond ACT 5)
3. Reset Carina Challenge Objectives
4. Reset Gauntlet Keys
5. Reset Abyss paths
6. Reset EOP Paths
7. Remove the following titles from their account (LEGEND / PARAGON / THRONEBREAKER / ABYSS STARRED BACK)
8. Delete / Empty all catalyst and gems from their inventory

The first response with deleting their top champs is crucial as this is what allows them to unfairly compete in BGs. But then again if they stop modding they won't do that well in BG's anyways. But this will cripple them from join high tier alliances. This will also lower their prestige and stop them from basically using unfairly obtained champs in any kind of content in general until they earn them again fairly.

Most of the resetting content suggestion is aimed at bringing them to a Cavalier status which again might be unfair for other honest cavalier players. But I guess there has to be some compromise. This also gives them a chance for redemption by playing the game honestly and try to win the rewards fairly. I din't include contents like ROL / LOL / Variants on purpose as the rewards from them are already out-dated with the current meta of the game.

Everything above is assuming this is the first time they are caught. If they are caught again it should be a permanent reset on their account. Again they can still choose to play right from ACT 1. All the changes suggested here will give honest players some value to the time and effort they genuinely put in the game and will strongly deter any Modder or their children / grandchildren (as said by our very own @Kabam Miike ) from Modding in the first place.

Simply permanently ban them is enough

Chief_prime

Cheaters should be banned permanently. Period.

Whatever kabam says about wanting to give a chance for players to reform is stupid and weak. Hence why the game is at this current attrocious state.

If someone wants to reform: they can start a new account and work for it from scratch.

No wonder cheaters are so shameless in this game.

Bot arena? Keeps the champs.
Mod BGs? Keeps the rewards.
Manipulates end game content? Keeps everything.
Cheats in AW? Nothing to see here.

Just drop the hammer. And keep dropping until these losers eventually find it's not worth it their time to cheat coz they don't get anywhere.

Adevati

I like what Fall Guys did with cheaters/modders. They'd get flagged and put into their own server/lobby. They'd sit on loading screens for longer times and requeue over and over if I remember right. This lets the bot code think it's doing it's job without letting the persons behind it know they got caught.

I saw that episode of Mythic Quest.

But seriously, this is the smartest way to handle them. Give them a 3 day ban and say they are removed from all chats/alliances and banned from joining/creating an alliance. Then they get dumped in a shell server with no way of really knowing they aren’t on the production server. BG wait times are super long and they only face other modders. Meanwhile, all these accounts are flagged and Kabam can data-mine them constantly to improve mod detection.

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GinjabredMonsta

I disagree with anyone who says they should put more resources into things for cheaters. They shouldn’t build them their own server, give them their own titles, or make special emojis for them. Just ban them permanently. Short sweet and simple

Kerneas

Modders should simply get an IP ban and their account permanently banned. There is 0 reason why anyone should bother with them. Coming up with cruel punishments for them in-game would unnecessarily occupy the servers' capacity, which could be better used for legit, honest players. Just ban them, prevent them from trying that again and don't bother with such low, dishonest scum. They aren't worth anyone's time any money