Unpopular opinion, the Classic Spidey buff is very good
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So I think this buff is a juggs level buff, not quite mags or kingpin or Ultron but juggs or hulk level
The decelerate is actually really good and the taunts and ignoring lumber is great
Shout out to BMcG for showcasing his true potential
And his damage is a really good and easy to start and maintain loop
The following is a practice fight, 4 star rank 1 Spidey classic Vs 6 star rank 2 bwcv
The reason I have 35 percent health is the bleeds off her special 1 are quite big to a 4 star and 1 hit to the face
But as you can see, 85 hits and 1 mins 5 secs is very good for a 4 star rank 1 dealing with 33k health
And a 7k crit sp2
Overall the damage rotation is very ez to maintain and the utility is more than meets the eye, so a pretty respectable buff
The decelerate is actually really good and the taunts and ignoring lumber is great
Shout out to BMcG for showcasing his true potential
And his damage is a really good and easy to start and maintain loop
The following is a practice fight, 4 star rank 1 Spidey classic Vs 6 star rank 2 bwcv
The reason I have 35 percent health is the bleeds off her special 1 are quite big to a 4 star and 1 hit to the face
But as you can see, 85 hits and 1 mins 5 secs is very good for a 4 star rank 1 dealing with 33k health
And a 7k crit sp2
Overall the damage rotation is very ez to maintain and the utility is more than meets the eye, so a pretty respectable buff
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This is the fight overview
But underrated in the terms of much better for early and mid game players, eg if you got him as your first 5 or 6 star, now it's not a reason to rage
So not very good for paragons but could be great for uc and cav
The comparison is inaccurate
More apt comparisons will be Civil Warrior, Yellow Jacket, Terrax, Yondu, DPXF
Like I said above, I was incorrect to compare him to juggs
He is a tier in between juggs and yellow jacket I think
But now you've got a very capable lane clearer
A lot of the science class is still better than him, but I think he's underrated right now
you don't go into a Red Mags buff the same way you go into a OG Spidey buff .. or a Chavez buff the way you go into a DDHK buff or an Iceman buff the way you go into a Diablo buff.
they all vary in objective.
I think it's a extremely meh buff.
The issue I have with Spider-Man's kit is the Taunt duration and excessive reliance on synergies. I prefer the reliability of the SP2 on S2099 and Symbiote Spidey, to give two examples.
A small tweak or two could really help. Here's some thoughts... (not all of them, maybe one or two).
- Increase base Taunt duration by 3 seconds
- Taunts are paused during either champion's special attacks
- Taunts are paused while the opponent is Stunned
- On the SP2, while the Stun is active, the Opponent’s Physical Resistance is lowered by X-200 for each Taunt and 200 for each stack of Webbing on them
For me, I like Taunts being paused during either champion's special attacks or while the opponent is Stunned. Seems fair.He's definitely better than he used to be (which is the main aim) and it's fairly easy to maintain semi-permanent Decelerate; twice if he's Awakened. That, plus Taunt and his Ability to ignore Limber makes for useful utility that he didn't have before.
His damage is the main issue - it's purely physical, dependent on stacking lots of debuffs, and concentrated in a very brief window of increased damage post-SP2. It's there, but very much in a burst that's easy to disrupt/be lost in far too many scenarios. As part of the buff, Kabam actually reduced his critical rating and removed his armour break; which helped spread his damage out throughout the fight. (and reduced his utility: Armour break is really useful)
I think it's an okay buff, and I'm happy that players new to MCOC picking up Spidey will find him useful (at least once he's Awakened) and potentially clear content with a team about him. That's going to be good for the long-term health of the game and it's player-base. Making the classic champions appealing (like my suggestions in this thread) is really important to attract and maintain new players, since the classic champions are probably the main draw to the game.
It's just a little hard not to be disappointed that (as a long-time player with an established roster) he really does very little for me right now, and isn't worth ranking up 😔.
One thing that I think would have gone a long way to making this a standout buff is he could "thwip" a webbing on evade. Throw some fun callouts in there when he does it. He would really have that Spidey feel if he did that. His ramp and utility would come faster with this. And he'd be able to deal with more champs with a lot of moves in their specials with the increased webbing.