7-Star Celebration unfair

I want to start by thanking Marvel for the awesome event this is…NOT.

For the first time since playing this game as FTP, I am unable to complete a quest, and that’s total garbage.

Requiring 5 x 7-Star to complete a quest is such a bad move, as not all players have their 6-Star roster close to complete, so whenever you open another one, to get shards of 7-Star.

For every single quest in the game, no matter the difficulty, you can spend units for revives, etc, and get it done, but not this special one.

Since the start of the event, I’ve been farming like crazy for Arena to get those units, as I did not spend money in this game in all these years.

All I got after spending all my units, my time, all the Paragon Crystals I got, not a single 7-Star.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not upset about that, given the chance. I just wasn’t that lucky.

What upsets me is that I can’t complete a quest due to not having enough 7-Star champions, unless I spend money to buy Paragon crystals.

Is that fair ?
The difference between non spending and spending players should not be the ability to complete a quest, but the rewards.

I rest my case, hopefully you won’t pull the same move in the upcoming events.

All the best !

Comments

HSS75

7 stars are not meant to be that much available in the first place(at their release at least). if those gates weren't there thronebreakers and cavaliers maybe could have obtain their first 7 star easily using revives and units and it really lowers the hype of 7 stars if everyone can get their hands on one this early in their release.
And besides those 7 star gates motivate others to get 7 stars and try harder if they are F2P.
Some things are unfair believe me i know but if all things were fair in this game it wouldn't be fun in the first place.
If you don't like them doing this in the game then don't play it, you can just NOT play it, it's THAT SIMPLE!
Not every quest can be done by everyone for example cavalier can't do thronebreaker event quest and for a good reason.
Do you really want to see a case where for example in danger room two months ago of some people and i mean a lot of people getting a legends title by getting carried by a hacker or being a hacker themselves?
The answer to this is a hard NOOOO!!!
No hard feelings

SirGamesBond

The event will sit in your account and it will wait till eternity for you to explore it. Ofcourse when you have 5 7*s. Such loyalty have never been see before.

HSS75

that's the point of the quest, sometimes not everything is fair

RonSwanson

The quest isn't going anywhere, it's permanent content.

noclutch

Its is permanent quest, you will be able to complete it later.
However you will miss the points from exploration reward(paragon crystal) for the 7star event.

Ashacekar

It's a long term event. Once you have more 7*s come back to it. It's just not about solo objectives. They would add more chapters as well. And it being open to TB is a further bonus. I have 2 7*s and didn't have any issues with the event. The cute Pfp is sufficient for now with all the shards.

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Mauled

I didn’t spend and I’ve been able to hit every alliance milestone. There’s an enormous amount of free stuff mixed in with the milestones so you only need about 2k units to hit everything and that’s if you don’t have a lot of 7* shards anyway.

MiculMan

Its is permanent quest, you will be able to complete it later.
However you will miss the points from exploration reward(paragon crystal) for the 7star event.

That was my whole point, perhaps I did not explain it well.
Let’s be honest for a second, that everyone is looking to complete the quest while the event is still ongoing.
It is about equitability.
Let’s put it this way: A player gets those 10 Paragon, and while opening, gets 7-Star heroes, allowing him to complete 100% the entire quest.
Those 8 Paragon crystal that could have earned from completion would have made a difference for me into reaching a milestone in Solo for T6 or T3, that was all. - 6400 points added.
I don’t care at all if I get a 7-Star or not, I would have still opened those Paragon using my units.
But that’s limited to a point as to how much time I have allocated for the game and farming.
Anyway, you are entitled to an opinion just like I am. Not here to argue and I am definitely understanding your point of view.
Thanks !

GinjabredMonsta

It’s nowhere near unfair

pseudosane

It is a permanent quest, how is that unfair?

DudeMaGude

Not all content in the game should be available to everyone. The game rewards for progressing your account and you don't need to spend a dime to do it.

GeneralMerce

as a free to play, I've spent a net of 1900 units. With that, clearing the quest and my alliance rewards i've be able to get plenty and more from this event. Only rolling 2x7*s from my own shard bank, the event has netted me: 2xT6, 2xT6CC, 2xT3a, 1 x 7* (so now have 3 7*), almost another 7* with just under 15K crystals, 1 x 6* striker, 2 x 5* strikers, 4 x 6* pulls from paragon crystal (no 7* pulls which is a bummer)

all of that with only 1900 units from my bank. how is this unfair?

Typhoon

So what you’re saying is… you’d like your cake… and you’d like to eat it too.

mgj0630

For every single quest in the game, no matter the difficulty, you can spend units for revives, etc, and get it done, but not this special one.

This is a completely false statement.

Act 6 had lanes gated behind the number of 6* champs you brought in.

Some earlier Acts (can't recall which) had specific champ gates if I'm not mistaken.

I think some other quests in Act 6 also had class gates.

Long story short, there's precedent for these types of gates, and I've only ever seen them placed in permanent content, so let's be honest about why you're mad....you can't complete the content in the time frame you want to complete it, and that's a far stretch from a problem.

willrun4adonut

I didn’t spend and I’ve been able to hit every alliance milestone. There’s an enormous amount of free stuff mixed in with the milestones so you only need about 2k units to hit everything and that’s if you don’t have a lot of 7* shards anyway.

Forgive my stupidity, but how do you hit all the milestones with that few of units? I have 3 7*, have opened 8 paragon crystals, and still I’m not close. I also have 3500 units still.

Coppin

I want to start by thanking Marvel for the awesome event this is…NOT.

For the first time since playing this game as FTP, I am unable to complete a quest, and that’s total garbage.

Requiring 5 x 7-Star to complete a quest is such a bad move, as not all players have their 6-Star roster close to complete, so whenever you open another one, to get shards of 7-Star.

For every single quest in the game, no matter the difficulty, you can spend units for revives, etc, and get it done, but not this special one.

Since the start of the event, I’ve been farming like crazy for Arena to get those units, as I did not spend money in this game in all these years.

All I got after spending all my units, my time, all the Paragon Crystals I got, not a single 7-Star.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not upset about that, given the chance. I just wasn’t that lucky.

What upsets me is that I can’t complete a quest due to not having enough 7-Star champions, unless I spend money to buy Paragon crystals.

Is that fair ?
The difference between non spending and spending players should not be the ability to complete a quest, but the rewards.

I rest my case, hopefully you won’t pull the same move in the upcoming events.

All the best !

U must be new.. act 6 was gated to 6*...

GMAX77

A) The concepts of fairness and equity, while noble, often result in the idea that everyone is somehow entiteld to the "same" thing as everyone else, even if that person did not do the same thing (buy units, get lucky on a paragon crystal, advance to the paragon progression level, etc) as they did.

As stated. This is permanent content and while the celebration event is not a continual thing, everyone will eventually be able to get the rewards, just not at the same time.

C) The idea of free to play players being entitled to the same as "pay to win" players baffles me. I do not have YouTube premium...I have a friend who does. I understand as a result of him paying a premium, he will not have to deal with ads in the way that I do. If free to play players have access to the same as those who pay (and make no mistake, everyone has the option to pay even if they choose not to take it) what is the point of the game having a pay option?

GMAX77

I want to start by thanking Marvel for the awesome event this is…NOT.

Since the start of the event, I’ve been farming like crazy for Arena to get those units, as I did not spend money in this game in all these years.

All I got after spending all my units, my time, all the Paragon Crystals I got, not a single 7-Star.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not upset about that, given the chance. I just wasn’t that lucky.

All the best !

This is also a point that I'd like you to consider my friend...had you gotten lucky and pulled one or even two 7 star champs, they your ability to complete the quest would have not come as a result of paying and spending money, but rather as a result of luck.

This same luck is what allows some summoners to complete difficult content or content which needs a specific counter.

I clearly see your point and I appreciate the way that you've expressed it, I just would like you to consider that "luck" (and yes spending) have always been ingrained in the fabric of MCOC.

Mauled

I didn’t spend and I’ve been able to hit every alliance milestone. There’s an enormous amount of free stuff mixed in with the milestones so you only need about 2k units to hit everything and that’s if you don’t have a lot of 7* shards anyway.
Forgive my stupidity, but how do you hit all the milestones with that few of units? I have 3 7*, have opened 8 paragon crystals, and still I’m not close. I also have 3500 units still.

Opened:
5 x 7 = 12,500
47 x Paragon = 37,600
Total points: 50,100

Free Paragon:
15 x solo/alliance milestones
18 x 7* Quest

Free Units:
1100

Paragon crystals to buy = 14 = 2,800 units. Take away free units = 1700

Starting units = ~350

I got a 7* from Paragon crystal #30 or so which allowed me to fully explore the 7* Quest. However, without that I’d have had 6 less Paragon Crystals. But that would have only stopped me hitting the 50k solo milestone for the 700 units.

Loki_Poki1280

I did the initial run. I'm just TB. Got a 6* Cap Sam Wilson from Paragons and the initial clear of the event gave me enough shards to open a 7*. It's Mangog. But I got my first 7*. Now, I'll happily wait until I get more to finish the event one day. I ain't in a rush.
Btw, at 7* Mangog actually kinda feels good ngl. Tanky boi too

Mauled

I didn’t spend and I’ve been able to hit every alliance milestone. There’s an enormous amount of free stuff mixed in with the milestones so you only need about 2k units to hit everything and that’s if you don’t have a lot of 7* shards anyway.
Forgive my stupidity, but how do you hit all the milestones with that few of units? I have 3 7*, have opened 8 paragon crystals, and still I’m not close. I also have 3500 units still.

Opened:
5 x 7 = 12,500
47 x Paragon = 37,600
Total points: 50,100

Free Paragon:
15 x solo/alliance milestones
18 x 7* Quest

Free Units:
1100

Paragon crystals to buy = 14 = 2,800 units. Take away free units = 1700

Starting units = ~350

I got a 7* from Paragon crystal #30 or so which allowed me to fully explore the 7* Quest. However, without that I’d have had 6 less Paragon Crystals. But that would have only stopped me hitting the 50k solo milestone for the 700 units. Obviously it depends how big your alliance is - I’m in a fairly high spending alliance so all the alliance milestones are unlocked and I just had to hit the minimum for the rewards.

EBG78

The frustrating part for me is that the alliance event is a two week event, but you have to be in the alliance for two weeks to collect milestones. I don’t recall any kind of notification stating that you would need to be in an alliance that long to collect. At least with the Christmas gifting event there is plenty of notification on these things to be able to plan. Not so with this one as far as I’m aware of.

GoingBack

So you don’t use your money to support the game, and are complaining you can’t beat permanent content, the moment it is released with the newest rarity of characters that have been introduced. FML, our world is doomed…

MiculMan

I want to start by thanking Marvel for the awesome event this is…NOT.

Since the start of the event, I’ve been farming like crazy for Arena to get those units, as I did not spend money in this game in all these years.

All I got after spending all my units, my time, all the Paragon Crystals I got, not a single 7-Star.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not upset about that, given the chance. I just wasn’t that lucky.

All the best !
This is also a point that I'd like you to consider my friend...had you gotten lucky and pulled one or even two 7 star champs, they your ability to complete the quest would have not come as a result of paying and spending money, but rather as a result of luck.

This same luck is what allows some summoners to complete difficult content or content which needs a specific counter.

I clearly see your point and I appreciate the way that you've expressed it, I just would like you to consider that "luck" (and yes spending) have always been ingrained in the fabric of MCOC.

Hey, man. Thanks !
I appreciate your answer and this is what I like to see, arguments, and I take it.
Not replying for the sake of being part of a thread and a duck, just because “it is what it is”.
I couldn’t agree more, I know for sure I am not entitled to the same prizes as someone that spends on the game, units or money, or any other resource more than I do.
I was a bit triggered with the quest, while the event lasts, because I am farming like crazy.
And even after opening Paragon crystals using all of my units, I am unable to progress due to number of heroes.
As stated in my previous replies, I understand, and did mention this, yet some are reading between the lines and calling me crazy

All the best !

Warlord_615

7 stars are not meant to be that much available in the first place(at their release at least). if those gates weren't there thronebreakers and cavaliers maybe could have obtain their first 7 star easily using revives and units and it really lowers the hype of 7 stars if everyone can get their hands on one this early in their release.
And besides those 7 star gates motivate others to get 7 stars and try harder if they are F2P.
Some things are unfair believe me i know but if all things were fair in this game it wouldn't be fun in the first place.
If you don't like them doing this in the game then don't play it, you can just NOT play it, it's THAT SIMPLE!
Not every quest can be done by everyone for example cavalier can't do thronebreaker event quest and for a good reason.
Do you really want to see a case where for example in danger room two months ago of some people and i mean a lot of people getting a legends title by getting carried by a hacker or being a hacker themselves?
The answer to this is a hard NOOOO!!!
No hard feelings

Stupid new quest is only available for tb and paragon

GoingBack

Its is permanent quest, you will be able to complete it later.
However you will miss the points from exploration reward(paragon crystal) for the 7star event.
That was my whole point, perhaps I did not explain it well.
Let’s be honest for a second, that everyone is looking to complete the quest while the event is still ongoing.
It is about equitability.
Let’s put it this way: A player gets those 10 Paragon, and while opening, gets 7-Star heroes, allowing him to complete 100% the entire quest.
Those 8 Paragon crystal that could have earned from completion would have made a difference for me into reaching a milestone in Solo for T6 or T3, that was all. - 6400 points added.
I don’t care at all if I get a 7-Star or not, I would have still opened those Paragon using my units.
But that’s limited to a point as to how much time I have allocated for the game and farming.
Anyway, you are entitled to an opinion just like I am. Not here to argue and I am definitely understanding your point of view.
Thanks !

My question is this…RNG aside.

Why do you feel you get the same access as people who are willing to give more. In a game like this time is not equitable to $$ spent on the game, money will always give people a huge leg up. This is something that should happen as they keep the game going. I am not a whale or a dolphin, but I do spend around $20-50/mo on the game and even I will not be able to 100% the content unless I get lucky on Paragon crystals. To get ahead in a game like this you either have to spend an ungodly amount of time grinding, spend money, or get lucky.

This is not the first time there has been content that behind a paywall/champ rarity gate and it will not be the last.

CyborgNinja135

7 stars are not meant to be that much available in the first place(at their release at least). if those gates weren't there thronebreakers and cavaliers maybe could have obtain their first 7 star easily using revives and units and it really lowers the hype of 7 stars if everyone can get their hands on one this early in their release.
And besides those 7 star gates motivate others to get 7 stars and try harder if they are F2P.
Some things are unfair believe me i know but if all things were fair in this game it wouldn't be fun in the first place.
If you don't like them doing this in the game then don't play it, you can just NOT play it, it's THAT SIMPLE!
Not every quest can be done by everyone for example cavalier can't do thronebreaker event quest and for a good reason.
Do you really want to see a case where for example in danger room two months ago of some people and i mean a lot of people getting a legends title by getting carried by a hacker or being a hacker themselves?
The answer to this is a hard NOOOO!!!
No hard feelings
Stupid new quest is only available for tb and paragon

Why would Cav and lower need 7* anyway? And the quest was only supposed to be open to Paragons in the first place, but Kabam made a mistake and decided to leave it available to TB too

MiculMan

Its is permanent quest, you will be able to complete it later.
However you will miss the points from exploration reward(paragon crystal) for the 7star event.
That was my whole point, perhaps I did not explain it well.
Let’s be honest for a second, that everyone is looking to complete the quest while the event is still ongoing.
It is about equitability.
Let’s put it this way: A player gets those 10 Paragon, and while opening, gets 7-Star heroes, allowing him to complete 100% the entire quest.
Those 8 Paragon crystal that could have earned from completion would have made a difference for me into reaching a milestone in Solo for T6 or T3, that was all. - 6400 points added.
I don’t care at all if I get a 7-Star or not, I would have still opened those Paragon using my units.
But that’s limited to a point as to how much time I have allocated for the game and farming.
Anyway, you are entitled to an opinion just like I am. Not here to argue and I am definitely understanding your point of view.
Thanks !
My question is this…RNG aside.

Why do you feel you get the same access as people who are willing to give more. In a game like this time is not equitable to $$ spent on the game, money will always give people a huge leg up. This is something that should happen as they keep the game going. I am not a whale or a dolphin, but I do spend around $20-50/mo on the game and even I will not be able to 100% the content unless I get lucky on Paragon crystals. To get ahead in a game like this you either have to spend an ungodly amount of time grinding, spend money, or get lucky.

This is not the first time there has been content that behind a paywall/champ rarity gate and it will not be the last.

I am starting to get the feeling that people don’t even read my previous reply and don’t see the bigger picture and I’d rather stop than hurting someone’s feelings.
I am not entitled to the same rewards as others that are spending money or more units

Have fun !

klobberintyme

Its is permanent quest, you will be able to complete it later.
However you will miss the points from exploration reward(paragon crystal) for the 7star event.
That was my whole point, perhaps I did not explain it well.
Let’s be honest for a second, that everyone is looking to complete the quest while the event is still ongoing.
It is about equitability.
Let’s put it this way: A player gets those 10 Paragon, and while opening, gets 7-Star heroes, allowing him to complete 100% the entire quest.
Those 8 Paragon crystal that could have earned from completion would have made a difference for me into reaching a milestone in Solo for T6 or T3, that was all. - 6400 points added.
I don’t care at all if I get a 7-Star or not, I would have still opened those Paragon using my units.
But that’s limited to a point as to how much time I have allocated for the game and farming.
Anyway, you are entitled to an opinion just like I am. Not here to argue and I am definitely understanding your point of view.
Thanks !
My question is this…RNG aside.

Why do you feel you get the same access as people who are willing to give more. In a game like this time is not equitable to $$ spent on the game, money will always give people a huge leg up. This is something that should happen as they keep the game going. I am not a whale or a dolphin, but I do spend around $20-50/mo on the game and even I will not be able to 100% the content unless I get lucky on Paragon crystals. To get ahead in a game like this you either have to spend an ungodly amount of time grinding, spend money, or get lucky.

This is not the first time there has been content that behind a paywall/champ rarity gate and it will not be the last.
I am starting to get the feeling that people don’t even read my previous reply and don’t see the bigger picture and I’d rather stop than hurting someone’s feelings.
I am not entitled to the same rewards as others that are spending money or more units

Have fun !

The bigger picture is folks here don't take kindly to entitled whining and excuses, and the kings of those haven't even weighed in on this thread yet.

Probably should take note for future reference.