Who is the best mystic defender in your opinion ?

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  • Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 ★★★★★
    MoeyTehr said:

    How the hell don't you have Hood?!

    You find Hood hard to fight ?
  • I_tell_no_tales_1I_tell_no_tales_1 Member Posts: 1,198 ★★★★
    Doom
    He still slaps
    SuelGames said:

    I dont think Rintrah is hard, he s just a bad matchup in BG because of the time, he s so tanky!

    Ima go with Spidey since he s quite new and i still havent figured him out too well yet

    Abs man also isnt hard if u have the right counter

    Doom u gotta play perfect, cause 1 mistake and u re probably dead, tanky and op

    I do hate to fight Maw and Mangog tough, very annoying defenders that require specific gameplay

    Just don't medium him and you will be fine
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,907 ★★★★★
    Mojo
    No one's saying Mojo? While some buff immune champs have made him much easier to defeat, I still really struggle whenever I bring anyone who isn't immune to buffs. I absolutely hate that degen.

    I would also say Dormammu, for similar reasons. I hate fighting him.
  • MarouenMarouen Member Posts: 44
    Mystic Spidey
    Rintrah very easy to defeat if you understand the mechanic
  • phillgreenphillgreen Member Posts: 4,111 ★★★★★
    I normally parry/heavy sasquatch and rintrah but maw, that guy bothers me.

    Stupid mystic spidey annoys me too if I dont have torch.
  • Salve_maker05Salve_maker05 Member Posts: 418 ★★★
    Doom
    Put him on a shock node and he will only throw heavy attacks and b-slap you out of existence
  • SSJSSJ Member Posts: 15
    Mojo
    Fun and interactive damage if you don’t have a buff immune champion
  • Shake_a_QuakeShake_a_Quake Member Posts: 462 ★★★
    edited June 2023
    Can't choose just one. Doom is really annoying to fight, and his unblockable sp2 doesn't help, I'm still learning to Dex that.

    Mojo is another pain in the cheeks, if i don't specifically bring spider-ham.

    And then there's Rintrah, who still consumes too much time and energy (prolly coz i still don't know how to fight him right.)

    For me personally, abs man is not annoying due to a simple heal block and heavy. And sasquatch can get unpredictable with the AI sometimes. I think he is bugged, bcoz i find him saving specials and throwing them mid-combo (in my case too often)
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 950 ★★★
    Mephisto

    Can't choose just one. Doom is really annoying to fight, and his unblockable sp2 doesn't help, I'm still learning to Dex that.

    Mojo is another pain in the cheeks, if i don't specifically bring spider-ham.

    And then there's Rintrah, who still consumes too much time and energy (prolly coz i still don't know how to fight him right.)

    For me personally, abs man is not annoying due to a simple heal block and heavy. And sasquatch can get unpredictable with the AI sometimes. I think he is bugged, bcoz i find him saving specials and throwing them mid-combo (in my case too often)

    For doom, his sp2 isn't unblockable unless he manages to steal two bars of power from you using the sp1, because aura shouldn't be active when he fills two bars of power unless you're running a buff heavy champ and mystic dispersion gives him that much.

    For rintrah, knock him down consistently so he doesn't go unstoppable, he goes unstoppable at 10+ charges, each knockdown removes five.
  • Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 ★★★★★

    Can't choose just one. Doom is really annoying to fight, and his unblockable sp2 doesn't help, I'm still learning to Dex that.

    Mojo is another pain in the cheeks, if i don't specifically bring spider-ham.

    And then there's Rintrah, who still consumes too much time and energy (prolly coz i still don't know how to fight him right.)

    For me personally, abs man is not annoying due to a simple heal block and heavy. And sasquatch can get unpredictable with the AI sometimes. I think he is bugged, bcoz i find him saving specials and throwing them mid-combo (in my case too often)

    For doom, his sp2 isn't unblockable unless he manages to steal two bars of power from you using the sp1, because aura shouldn't be active when he fills two bars of power unless you're running a buff heavy champ and mystic dispersion gives him that much.

    For rintrah, knock him down consistently so he doesn't go unstoppable, he goes unstoppable at 10+ charges, each knockdown removes five.
    I have noticed that if Rintrah's back is not against the wall , he doesn't go unstoppable even on 10 charges . As soon as he goes towards the wall , he goes unstoppable on 10 charges if you use a medium attack.
  • Shake_a_QuakeShake_a_Quake Member Posts: 462 ★★★
    @KnightOfTheRealm tysm, I'll definitely keep all of this mind when i next counter these champs
  • Caleb1705Caleb1705 Member Posts: 259 ★★★
    Chavez
    Chavez shouldn't be so tough but I feel so helpless when she throws 2 heavies into the air and then hides in the corner for a sp3
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    Maw
    Maw,
    Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
    Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

    Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
    Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

    Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.
  • KnightOfTheRealmKnightOfTheRealm Member Posts: 950 ★★★
    Mephisto
    noclutch said:

    Maw,
    Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
    Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

    Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
    Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

    Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

    Ham is better for maw as he has 150% degen resistance , and you don’t need a miss counter. Just watch falter timer
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,554 ★★★★★
    Rintrah
    noclutch said:

    Maw,
    Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
    Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

    Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
    Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

    Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

    I use ibom, surprisingly he works for me everytime, torch and archangel are good counters too
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,554 ★★★★★
    Rintrah
    noclutch said:

    Maw,
    Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
    Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

    Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
    Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

    Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

    Omega sentinel is a underrated counter to maw.. she is nullify immune,and tracking debuff prevent miss,so you can easily shut him down,and kill him easily
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    Maw

    noclutch said:

    Maw,
    Dude degens you out with nulliy on sp1
    Also kills the tempo with the falter and projectile dash attack.

    Most restrictive character in terms of counter.
    Needs An Anti-miss and Nullify/buff immune character who can control tempo.

    Realistically Torch is the most reliable counter but even he gets degen death in a tempo reliant fight.

    Ham is better for maw as he has 150% degen resistance , and you don’t need a miss counter. Just watch falter timer
    Yeah Ham is very good but its a work around not a proper counter.
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    Maw
    @captain_rogers
    You are right,
    That makes her a perfect counter.

    Can somebody point out more such characters?
    (Characters who can counter his degen and miss)

    I completely overlooked Omega sentinel
  • Rohit_316Rohit_316 Member Posts: 3,415 ★★★★★
    noclutch said:

    @captain_rogers
    You are right,
    That makes her a perfect counter.

    Can somebody point out more such characters?
    (Characters who can counter his degen and miss)

    I completely overlooked Omega sentinel

    Titania , Cassie are excellent counters to him . Both are buff immune.
  • Wu_Bangerz23Wu_Bangerz23 Member Posts: 1,002 ★★★
    Mephisto

    Everytime I don’t ban maw, the opponent will pick him and I’ll get wrecked, especially with nodes where you need to knock down. He’s one of my core bans. I just find him so annoying with his unparriable mediums and having to watch the falter timer.

    Most people won't do it or try because of class disadvantage but have u ever tried Angela? Destroys him.... especially if u struggle with knocking him down. She can parry his non contact attacks
  • KerneasKerneas Member Posts: 3,825 ★★★★★
    Doom
    I personally hate Doom. His block penetration is borderline unfair. I understand you all will disagree, and that is fine, everyone can have their opinion.

    I just feel it's slightly unfair when I lose 40-60% hp just from parries. But again, just my opinion
  • noclutchnoclutch Member Posts: 186 ★★
    Maw
    Kerneas said:

    I personally hate Doom. His block penetration is borderline unfair. I understand you all will disagree, and that is fine, everyone can have their opinion.

    I just feel it's slightly unfair when I lose 40-60% hp just from parries. But again, just my opinion

    He does insane amount of dmg through block. and probably most annoyinig in general.
    But He doesnt restrict your playstyle or characters the way Rintrah or maw does.
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,233 ★★★★
    Maw

    Everytime I don’t ban maw, the opponent will pick him and I’ll get wrecked, especially with nodes where you need to knock down. He’s one of my core bans. I just find him so annoying with his unparriable mediums and having to watch the falter timer.

    Most people won't do it or try because of class disadvantage but have u ever tried Angela? Destroys him.... especially if u struggle with knocking him down. She can parry his non contact attacks
    I didn’t know that, I haven’t ever used her. But that seems super helpful if she can parry. Most of the time I play a guy with max limber so I have to get the heavy off fast, but his second hit ends up being non contact where I then fail the heavy and take a combo to the face lol.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,613 ★★★★★
    edited September 2023
    Mojo
    He’s not here but Kindred
  • A_FungiA_Fungi Member Posts: 999 ★★★★
    I think the issue I run into BGs is when people have most of these champs in their decks because they all require similar counters. I don't have torch in my deck, makes it easy for me to ban theirs without sacrificing my options.

    I basically have scorpion, sp99 and AA to deal with the mystics. Thats hoping for a lot if they get 3 of these painful choices. (especially wong, dorm, maw together since sp99 is by far best at all of these)
  • A_FungiA_Fungi Member Posts: 999 ★★★★
    I enjoy all the Maw hate. I got super lucky and duped my 7 star... he is almost R2.
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