And once again for the last time. I didn’t record the whole fight cause the AI only started acting up near the end of the fight, so I didn’t record everything, now I’m recording all my fights from beginning to end even if no bugs pops up until find more examples. And once again, I’m sorry if I’m coming off as some one complaining for the sake of complaining when that couldn’t be farther from the truth.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
Again, all this shows is that you don't really know how to bait. Why are you sitting there and parrying? You should be swiping back to dex after they dash in. And when they're blocking, hit into their block to push them back across the screen. I'm just not seeing anything here.
But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
Another example of the AI holding onto SP, but this time I was able to get him to throw it. Not all fights where the AI holds their SP for. Fat min I get hit with. It’s only when my controls aren’t working on top of them. This fight, plus the other fight with professor X are examples of how I get out of AI throwing SP 3 without dying. Again though, no hate or malice, Im not Doing this to spread needless drama or information. Im tired of people being scared to report bugs because of people like you. I hope Kabam sees your comments on this thread, cause that’s wild fam. And yea fan base, Loser fan base, cause I don’t associate the loser fan base side with the ones who just play and wanna enjoy the game without having to play like they got 3 Mil on the line, cause the AI wanna travel across the map at light speed, or hold SP until your backed into a corner. And again, I’m sorry if I’m coming off hella bashful, I’m not even upset at the comments your making, but how is anyone gonna report any bugs or have confidence when yes “loser fan”base, being the ones who instead try to help with constructive criticism like the first 2 comments on this post. Those 2 are how you approach a convo giving constructive criticism, I did some things during the fight I definitely could have done better, but it doesn’t excuse the AI holding on to SP for a majority of the fight. Got a 63 combo ready to win easy, then bam, controls stopped working and AI would only throw SP 3.
Again. You are not baiting here. You are just sitting there and blocking.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
Not even close. The AI isn’t supposed to randomly dex outta special, or parry mid combo, I’m not saying the AI should be brain dead cause I’ve won fights in this situation. That’s not challenging that’s broken. The AI isn’t supposed to be able to hold SP for like 3 mins. And for those saying to hit into their block creating space. Like WHAT, I’ve already tried that and that does not work at all, all it does hitting into AI block is creat minimum space whole AI get more SO meter and punish me after.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
Again, all this shows is that you don't really know how to bait. Why are you sitting there and parrying? You should be swiping back to dex after they dash in. And when they're blocking, hit into their block to push them back across the screen. I'm just not seeing anything here.
But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
That’s already what I did. I was doing that but the AI still was refusing to throw SP 2 or SP1. And hitting into to block is dumb cause they can either perfect parry me or punish mid combo, so what your saying is practically useless information. Also I was already dexing him, I kept doing it but was losing more space, so I decided to start perfect parrying so I didn’t lose more space, and hitting into 2099 block?????? Did you not see the concussion debuff I got everytime I did, did you not watch the video thoroughly? All I’m trying to say is reduce the amount of times the AI spam SP 3. Why is that such a sin. It’s a mobile game, I play this to avoid stress, not create more.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
Also I’m fine with the AI being difficult to fight, but holding on to SP for like 4 mins when it’s a guaranteed one shot is jsut ****. Also I can’t dex all the time cause it doesn’t work, or my block doesn’t work so my character sits there and dies. If my controls worked properly then it Would be easier to survive these moments like my professor X vid
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
Again, all this shows is that you don't really know how to bait. Why are you sitting there and parrying? You should be swiping back to dex after they dash in. And when they're blocking, hit into their block to push them back across the screen. I'm just not seeing anything here.
But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
That’s already what I did. I was doing that but the AI still was refusing to throw SP 2 or SP1. And hitting into to block is dumb cause they can either perfect parry me or punish mid combo, so what your saying is practically useless information. Also I was already dexing him, I kept doing it but was losing more space, so I decided to start perfect parrying so I didn’t lose more space, and hitting into 2099 block?????? Did you not see the concussion debuff I got everytime I did, did you not watch the video thoroughly? All I’m trying to say is reduce the amount of times the AI spam SP 3. Why is that such a sin. It’s a mobile game, I play this to avoid stress, not create more.
It's clear you have no intention of taking any advice here, but good luck, or whatever.
And for what it's worth, here's a video of me baiting special 1s and 2s consistently in Thronebreaker EQ Chapter 3.1 about 10 minutes ago. I made this video for you.
1. Hold Block or get your finger off it. Wait for your opponent to dash in. You should not be trying to parry! 2. Dex 3. REPEAT
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
Another example of the AI holding onto SP, but this time I was able to get him to throw it. Not all fights where the AI holds their SP for. Fat min I get hit with. It’s only when my controls aren’t working on top of them. This fight, plus the other fight with professor X are examples of how I get out of AI throwing SP 3 without dying. Again though, no hate or malice, Im not Doing this to spread needless drama or information. Im tired of people being scared to report bugs because of people like you. I hope Kabam sees your comments on this thread, cause that’s wild fam. And yea fan base, Loser fan base, cause I don’t associate the loser fan base side with the ones who just play and wanna enjoy the game without having to play like they got 3 Mil on the line, cause the AI wanna travel across the map at light speed, or hold SP until your backed into a corner. And again, I’m sorry if I’m coming off hella bashful, I’m not even upset at the comments your making, but how is anyone gonna report any bugs or have confidence when yes “loser fan”base, being the ones who instead try to help with constructive criticism like the first 2 comments on this post. Those 2 are how you approach a convo giving constructive criticism, I did some things during the fight I definitely could have done better, but it doesn’t excuse the AI holding on to SP for a majority of the fight. Got a 63 combo ready to win easy, then bam, controls stopped working and AI would only throw SP 3.
Again. You are not baiting here. You are just sitting there and blocking.
I’m literally dropping block so the AI can either throw SP or charge forward, or throw heavy so I can avoid it, what definition of bait do you mean? Cause I clearly was trying to bait a SP, and guess what, he ended up popping it that SP 2 anyway, so it worked.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
Again, all this shows is that you don't really know how to bait. Why are you sitting there and parrying? You should be swiping back to dex after they dash in. And when they're blocking, hit into their block to push them back across the screen. I'm just not seeing anything here.
But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
That’s already what I did. I was doing that but the AI still was refusing to throw SP 2 or SP1. And hitting into to block is dumb cause they can either perfect parry me or punish mid combo, so what your saying is practically useless information. Also I was already dexing him, I kept doing it but was losing more space, so I decided to start perfect parrying so I didn’t lose more space, and hitting into 2099 block?????? Did you not see the concussion debuff I got everytime I did, did you not watch the video thoroughly? All I’m trying to say is reduce the amount of times the AI spam SP 3. Why is that such a sin. It’s a mobile game, I play this to avoid stress, not create more.
It's clear you have no intention of taking any advice here, but good luck, or whatever.
No I’m taking notes of what you said with hitting into block even though I’ve already done that multiple times and it usually gets me killed but still thank you for that advice. but what you have told is nothing new, I’ve watched YouTube tutorials on how to dex, bait and survive alliance AW fights. And your advice isn’t really advice, giving some one advice doesn’t mean you have to mock them while you’re doing it.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
Again, all this shows is that you don't really know how to bait. Why are you sitting there and parrying? You should be swiping back to dex after they dash in. And when they're blocking, hit into their block to push them back across the screen. I'm just not seeing anything here.
But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
That’s already what I did. I was doing that but the AI still was refusing to throw SP 2 or SP1. And hitting into to block is dumb cause they can either perfect parry me or punish mid combo, so what your saying is practically useless information. Also I was already dexing him, I kept doing it but was losing more space, so I decided to start perfect parrying so I didn’t lose more space, and hitting into 2099 block?????? Did you not see the concussion debuff I got everytime I did, did you not watch the video thoroughly? All I’m trying to say is reduce the amount of times the AI spam SP 3. Why is that such a sin. It’s a mobile game, I play this to avoid stress, not create more.
It's clear you have no intention of taking any advice here, but good luck, or whatever.
And for what it's worth, here's a video of me baiting special 1s and 2s consistently in Thronebreaker EQ Chapter 3.1 about 10 minutes ago. I made this video for you.
1. Hold Block or get your finger off it. Wait for your opponent to dash in. You should not be trying to parry! 2. Dex 3. REPEAT
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
Again, all this shows is that you don't really know how to bait. Why are you sitting there and parrying? You should be swiping back to dex after they dash in. And when they're blocking, hit into their block to push them back across the screen. I'm just not seeing anything here.
But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
That’s already what I did. I was doing that but the AI still was refusing to throw SP 2 or SP1. And hitting into to block is dumb cause they can either perfect parry me or punish mid combo, so what your saying is practically useless information. Also I was already dexing him, I kept doing it but was losing more space, so I decided to start perfect parrying so I didn’t lose more space, and hitting into 2099 block?????? Did you not see the concussion debuff I got everytime I did, did you not watch the video thoroughly? All I’m trying to say is reduce the amount of times the AI spam SP 3. Why is that such a sin. It’s a mobile game, I play this to avoid stress, not create more.
It's clear you have no intention of taking any advice here, but good luck, or whatever.
And for what it's worth, here's a video of me baiting special 1s and 2s consistently in Thronebreaker EQ Chapter 3.1 about 10 minutes ago. I made this video for you.
1. Hold Block or get your finger off it. Wait for your opponent to dash in. You should not be trying to parry! 2. Dex 3. REPEAT
Ok thank you very much. You are the first person on this forum that is genuinely helpful and I am sorry if I came on harsh. I’m going to try this more often and practice this in arena.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
Not even close. The AI isn’t supposed to randomly dex outta special, or parry mid combo, I’m not saying the AI should be brain dead cause I’ve won fights in this situation. That’s not challenging that’s broken. The AI isn’t supposed to be able to hold SP for like 3 mins. And for those saying to hit into their block creating space. Like WHAT, I’ve already tried that and that does not work at all, all it does hitting into AI block is creat minimum space whole AI get more SO meter and punish me after.
Those aren't even AI issues at all. So I don't know what you mean by "not even close." To the extent that those things happen, the AI has no effect on them. The AI operates under the same rules we do. It is not like we can't do those things, but the AI can do anything and is just programmed to pretend like it is following the rules. If we can't move, they can't move.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
Also I’m fine with the AI being difficult to fight, but holding on to SP for like 4 mins when it’s a guaranteed one shot is jsut ****. Also I can’t dex all the time cause it doesn’t work, or my block doesn’t work so my character sits there and dies. If my controls worked properly then it Would be easier to survive these moments like my professor X vid
It is probably the case that the AI isn't just programmed to hold specials indefinitely (at least in most cases). It is programmed to throw them when a specific set of circumstances is met. We just don't know precisely what they are in every situation.
Also, we can just complain about everything being bad, but if your problem with the AI is that "I can't dex all the time cause it doesn't work" that's not a problem the devs are likely to work on. They are not going to degrade the AI to meet the expectations of players who find that input issues are making it difficult for the AI to counter. That's simply never going to happen, period.
We can discuss how the AI should work, and we can discuss the issues players are having with the input controls in some circumstances, but if you're going to link the two, that becomes an intractable problem.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
Also I’m fine with the AI being difficult to fight, but holding on to SP for like 4 mins when it’s a guaranteed one shot is jsut ****. Also I can’t dex all the time cause it doesn’t work, or my block doesn’t work so my character sits there and dies. If my controls worked properly then it Would be easier to survive these moments like my professor X vid
It is probably the case that the AI isn't just programmed to hold specials indefinitely (at least in most cases). It is programmed to throw them when a specific set of circumstances is met. We just don't know precisely what they are in every situation.
Also, we can just complain about everything being bad, but if your problem with the AI is that "I can't dex all the time cause it doesn't work" that's not a problem the devs are likely to work on. They are not going to degrade the AI to meet the expectations of players who find that input issues are making it difficult for the AI to counter. That's simply never going to happen, period.
We can discuss how the AI should work, and we can discuss the issues players are having with the input controls in some circumstances, but if you're going to link the two, that becomes an intractable problem.
I need to record when the AI dexes me mid SP and Ask my game crash, it’s hard to catch unless I record every match which I am gonna do, but sometimes when I’m hitting AI and hit with my SP2 they ded out of my combo crashing my game. Or the AI will be across the map, only for them to travel at light speed the mili second my block drops. Now I will gladly admit I just needed to get better at getting the AI to throw SP, I just have a hard time dealing with them having a lot of SP if I’m backed into the corner.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
Not even close. The AI isn’t supposed to randomly dex outta special, or parry mid combo, I’m not saying the AI should be brain dead cause I’ve won fights in this situation. That’s not challenging that’s broken. The AI isn’t supposed to be able to hold SP for like 3 mins. And for those saying to hit into their block creating space. Like WHAT, I’ve already tried that and that does not work at all, all it does hitting into AI block is creat minimum space whole AI get more SO meter and punish me after.
Those aren't even AI issues at all. So I don't know what you mean by "not even close." To the extent that those things happen, the AI has no effect on them. The AI operates under the same rules we do. It is not like we can't do those things, but the AI can do anything and is just programmed to pretend like it is following the rules. If we can't move, they can't move.
Yea that’s actually a very well thought out way to say it, thank you. It’s like the AI is pretending to follow a program only for them to break that rhythm and it throws me, so I guess I can see why I see it as a bug. Thank you.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
My man how is he supposed to throw special if you either keep holding block or keep parrying him
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
Another example of the AI holding onto SP, but this time I was able to get him to throw it. Not all fights where the AI holds their SP for. Fat min I get hit with. It’s only when my controls aren’t working on top of them. This fight, plus the other fight with professor X are examples of how I get out of AI throwing SP 3 without dying. Again though, no hate or malice, Im not Doing this to spread needless drama or information. Im tired of people being scared to report bugs because of people like you. I hope Kabam sees your comments on this thread, cause that’s wild fam. And yea fan base, Loser fan base, cause I don’t associate the loser fan base side with the ones who just play and wanna enjoy the game without having to play like they got 3 Mil on the line, cause the AI wanna travel across the map at light speed, or hold SP until your backed into a corner. And again, I’m sorry if I’m coming off hella bashful, I’m not even upset at the comments your making, but how is anyone gonna report any bugs or have confidence when yes “loser fan”base, being the ones who instead try to help with constructive criticism like the first 2 comments on this post. Those 2 are how you approach a convo giving constructive criticism, I did some things during the fight I definitely could have done better, but it doesn’t excuse the AI holding on to SP for a majority of the fight. Got a 63 combo ready to win easy, then bam, controls stopped working and AI would only throw SP 3.
Again. You are not baiting here. You are just sitting there and blocking.
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
Another example of the AI holding onto SP, but this time I was able to get him to throw it. Not all fights where the AI holds their SP for. Fat min I get hit with. It’s only when my controls aren’t working on top of them. This fight, plus the other fight with professor X are examples of how I get out of AI throwing SP 3 without dying. Again though, no hate or malice, Im not Doing this to spread needless drama or information. Im tired of people being scared to report bugs because of people like you. I hope Kabam sees your comments on this thread, cause that’s wild fam. And yea fan base, Loser fan base, cause I don’t associate the loser fan base side with the ones who just play and wanna enjoy the game without having to play like they got 3 Mil on the line, cause the AI wanna travel across the map at light speed, or hold SP until your backed into a corner. And again, I’m sorry if I’m coming off hella bashful, I’m not even upset at the comments your making, but how is anyone gonna report any bugs or have confidence when yes “loser fan”base, being the ones who instead try to help with constructive criticism like the first 2 comments on this post. Those 2 are how you approach a convo giving constructive criticism, I did some things during the fight I definitely could have done better, but it doesn’t excuse the AI holding on to SP for a majority of the fight. Got a 63 combo ready to win easy, then bam, controls stopped working and AI would only throw SP 3.
Again. You are not baiting here. You are just sitting there and blocking.
That looked like arena. Arena AI is ****
Yea but someone on this post gave some really great advice, dexing more helps the AI throw more SP’s other than SP 3 but yea, arena AI cracked sometimes.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
My man how is he supposed to throw special if you either keep holding block or keep parrying him
They usually throw special when I drop block, and I’m not holding block. I press it, then let my block drop, so the AI either throws a SP, or dashes forward, it worked a decent amount of times. Watch my professor X video, it worked for that fight, and it worked for Rinrath’s AI,
Basically I took screen shots throughout the match and the AI took about 2 mins to throw special to the point I was backed into the wall and had to keep dexing.
Seen your video and you said took 2 mins to throw special then said 3 minutes plus. One fight it took 16 seconds for AI to throw special. Next fight it took 29 seconds to throw special. Where is this 3 minutes not thrown special exactly?
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
For what, I’m trying to report the AI buggin out, and then players hop on and call me bad, and respect? What respect, this post WAS FOR KABAM I want them to see this 💀, and I was and still am trying to be respectful, but how can I with people with you like you coming on saying stuff like that. This guy, you’re doing a bad job at gaining respect 🤓 to get people to care about this post. I don’t need y’all to care, I only need KABAM. #Kabam to care, not you, your a random person on this forum that has every right to express their own opinion on the public forum i posted and if they don’t, I’ll just keep reporting and trying to record the whole fight. Buts it’s kinda hard to record a bug when the Bug happens sporadically. I’ve literally been recording every fight I have then deleting the video of no bugs show up at this point. I spend way to much money on this game to just sit here and take it.
How you on here calling people losers and idiots for absolutely no reason. Then crying and apologizing then call people idiots and dumb again? Then acting delusional when asked to be respectful. Act shocked when asked respect. You got to give respect to earn it. It’s so rude for no reason. Also keep taunting kabam that you’ll “keep posting and do what you want and break forums rules” calling people down for no reason,bullying them, acting like a 5 year old temper tantrum. @Kabam Miike needs to come read this because it’s no way man. People banned from forums for less. There’s two videos. Botha ere 16 seconds and 29 seconds of AI not throwing specials. There’s no champ holding a special for 3 minutes as falsely claimed. Stop shitting on others and calling them names and act like an adult not a child. This is beyond embarrassing
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
For what, I’m trying to report the AI buggin out, and then players hop on and call me bad, and respect? What respect, this post WAS FOR KABAM I want them to see this 💀, and I was and still am trying to be respectful, but how can I with people with you like you coming on saying stuff like that. This guy, you’re doing a bad job at gaining respect 🤓 to get people to care about this post. I don’t need y’all to care, I only need KABAM. #Kabam to care, not you, your a random person on this forum that has every right to express their own opinion on the public forum i posted and if they don’t, I’ll just keep reporting and trying to record the whole fight. Buts it’s kinda hard to record a bug when the Bug happens sporadically. I’ve literally been recording every fight I have then deleting the video of no bugs show up at this point. I spend way to much money on this game to just sit here and take it.
How you on here calling people losers and idiots for absolutely no reason. Then crying and apologizing then call people idiots and dumb again? Then acting delusional when asked to be respectful. Act shocked when asked respect. You got to give respect to earn it. It’s so rude for no reason. Also keep taunting kabam that you’ll “keep posting and do what you want and break forums rules” calling people down for no reason,bullying them, acting like a 5 year old temper tantrum. @Kabam Miike needs to come read this because it’s no way man. People banned from forums for less. There’s two videos. Botha ere 16 seconds and 29 seconds of AI not throwing specials. There’s no champ holding a special for 3 minutes as falsely claimed. Stop shitting on others and calling them names and act like an adult not a child. This is beyond embarrassing
You beyond late and honestly needed to read more of the forum before running that mouth. The losers I’m referring Aren’t people who have given advice. And others on this forum I have already taken their advice, and for the 1 millionth time, my grip was my block not proctoring and the AI taking advantage of that by not throw SP, @Kabam Miike Hasn’t taken it down, cause I have done nothing wrong, I bullied no one, and I said in general losers, cause all people do on this forums is harass and call the other person bad, instead of giving actual advice, THAT guess what I have taken. And now look how much of a hypocrite you’re being, I already dropped this a while an ago, and you going and starting the fire again, wow congrats for adding nothing constructive at all to this discussion.
also did I call you loser? What you’re doing now is literal harassment, and then trynna come at me? Look at the other comments on this forum, that have given good and constructive criticism that I have taken, and yet everytime I explain my Block doesn’t work, or my swipe doesn’t work leaving my character to get punished, people like you just blame it on us, all our faults, of course, it’s like my character sits there while the AI travels across the Map at light speed. And by the way, this isn’t how you handle a conversation like this, man got beyond offended by the worlds losers and acting like I’m out here bullying people with different opinions than mine. That couldn’t be farther from the truth. I never called anyone directly losers or bums. Only referring to those who don’t help players who experience anomalies like this in the game. But instead people like claim harassment and then start to harass anyway. I would have dropped this forum and continued to look to for out of place bugs like block not working, or my game crashing when AI dex outta SP move mid combo. But go ahead, I’ll just make another forum. Simple as that.
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
For what, I’m trying to report the AI buggin out, and then players hop on and call me bad, and respect? What respect, this post WAS FOR KABAM I want them to see this 💀, and I was and still am trying to be respectful, but how can I with people with you like you coming on saying stuff like that. This guy, you’re doing a bad job at gaining respect 🤓 to get people to care about this post. I don’t need y’all to care, I only need KABAM. #Kabam to care, not you, your a random person on this forum that has every right to express their own opinion on the public forum i posted and if they don’t, I’ll just keep reporting and trying to record the whole fight. Buts it’s kinda hard to record a bug when the Bug happens sporadically. I’ve literally been recording every fight I have then deleting the video of no bugs show up at this point. I spend way to much money on this game to just sit here and take it.
How you on here calling people losers and idiots for absolutely no reason. Then crying and apologizing then call people idiots and dumb again? Then acting delusional when asked to be respectful. Act shocked when asked respect. You got to give respect to earn it. It’s so rude for no reason. Also keep taunting kabam that you’ll “keep posting and do what you want and break forums rules” calling people down for no reason,bullying them, acting like a 5 year old temper tantrum. @Kabam Miike needs to come read this because it’s no way man. People banned from forums for less. There’s two videos. Botha ere 16 seconds and 29 seconds of AI not throwing specials. There’s no champ holding a special for 3 minutes as falsely claimed. Stop shitting on others and calling them names and act like an adult not a child. This is beyond embarrassing
LMAO I taunted Kabam 😂, fam I have give them praise so much on this game, and spent 5 grand in 3 weeks alone on this game, if I was mocking Kabam and didn’t like this game, I wouldn’t have even bothered posting on their forums, but people like me and people in my global, have been experiencing the same bugs, and the same actions I have been experiencing, this isn’t some attention seeking page, this was a forum I WANT @Kabam to see. Why would I have posted to begin with if I don’t want them to see it. You claim I’m acting like a 5 year when I already dropped it. But hey, guess you always ignite the fire back right? Can’t believe you got so butt hurt over me saying in general that people act like losers, NO ONE in this forum particular, I just think it’s very lame to harass someone looking for answers or help, then call them a 5 year old. Great tactic, definitely helped to the discussion.
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
For what, I’m trying to report the AI buggin out, and then players hop on and call me bad, and respect? What respect, this post WAS FOR KABAM I want them to see this 💀, and I was and still am trying to be respectful, but how can I with people with you like you coming on saying stuff like that. This guy, you’re doing a bad job at gaining respect 🤓 to get people to care about this post. I don’t need y’all to care, I only need KABAM. #Kabam to care, not you, your a random person on this forum that has every right to express their own opinion on the public forum i posted and if they don’t, I’ll just keep reporting and trying to record the whole fight. Buts it’s kinda hard to record a bug when the Bug happens sporadically. I’ve literally been recording every fight I have then deleting the video of no bugs show up at this point. I spend way to much money on this game to just sit here and take it.
How you on here calling people losers and idiots for absolutely no reason. Then crying and apologizing then call people idiots and dumb again? Then acting delusional when asked to be respectful. Act shocked when asked respect. You got to give respect to earn it. It’s so rude for no reason. Also keep taunting kabam that you’ll “keep posting and do what you want and break forums rules” calling people down for no reason,bullying them, acting like a 5 year old temper tantrum. @Kabam Miike needs to come read this because it’s no way man. People banned from forums for less. There’s two videos. Botha ere 16 seconds and 29 seconds of AI not throwing specials. There’s no champ holding a special for 3 minutes as falsely claimed. Stop shitting on others and calling them names and act like an adult not a child. This is beyond embarrassing
Typhoons comment for example, I already apologized to him, and even took his advice with creating space by hitting AI’s block. So I don’t know where you get this Idea I don’t take Advice, when I clearly am. And continuing to take advice. What I don’t like, is my controls not working and AI taking advantage of that. I’m going to drop it here. And I do hope Kabam sees this, I’m prettt positive they already have. But from here I’ll be respectful, but I can’t tolerate talking down on other players who are just seeking to understand what’s going on. Especially since I spend a ton of money on a game I thoroughly enjoy and will continue enjoy, despite my frustrations. I hope the rest of your day goes well. And if you are offended by what I posted, I am sorry, truly, I am passionate, because I always know how people treat others on here looking for help, and yes, those people are losers, you shouldn’t have to talk down on someone to give them help or advice.
Typhoon what was I was supposed to? Keep hitting him so he can build special 3 anyway? I already perfect parry him for like 2 mins. What else am I supposed to do. And when spot landed that hit on me in the beginning of the fight, my block wasn’t working, and when I swiped back, Nick just stood there. This is why people are afraid to report bugs, cause then everyone blames them. Nah I’m gonna make sure Kabam sees this. I have no hate or malice. I just want to make sure the game is running properly, yet losers always hop on with the same dumb ****. Oh your fault, you’re not playin like a top MLG pro, you gotta bit special 1 then special 2 stun and kill super easy 🤓. Like GET OUTTA HERE.I’m playing a mobile game for Christs sake, I’m just trynna chill, not play as I’m playing for the finals of a football game, that’s what this community of try hands seem to not understand, and it’s mad toxic.
That's crazy language for someone who's just tryna chill. People here are giving you advice. You had enough wiggle room to hit Spot's block to give yourself some space to dex. With this example, there was no visible baiting of his special 2. Even if he had thrown it, you made dexing the special even harder on yourself by letting him back you into the corner. If you have other examples, feel free to link them and you'll most likely get exactly the response that the clip deserves. If you're not okay with that, I'm not sure the dumb **** loser fanbase you're referring to can do much to help. "no hate or malice", right?
Read my other comments cause you would have already this. But I’m passionate about this so I can just relax on this game. And I did dex him. I kept dexing, but what y’all don’t seem to understand, I keep having to explain, everything you toxic idiots keep telling me to do I WAS DOING IT, why do you think his health was so low. Mine wouldn’t have been so low if my controls were working properly, and the AI wouldn’t hold on SP. I’m sending more examples now. And yea loser fan base. Instead supporting or pointing what I mistakes I made like the first 2 comments on here I wouldn’t care as much, but I do, my friends quit the game, cause the feel the AI as of late has been way to intense. And you guys act like people only complain about this on the forums. GO on the their twitter, there are so many other played complaining about the same problem, mean while I’m doing what Kabam said to do and I’m getting told to play better. GTFO outta here with that. How insane is that.
"no hate or malice", right? You're really doing a bad job at earning the respect required for anyone to care about what you're saying. Hope Kabam sees this, I'm sure they'll jump right on it.
For what, I’m trying to report the AI buggin out, and then players hop on and call me bad, and respect? What respect, this post WAS FOR KABAM I want them to see this 💀, and I was and still am trying to be respectful, but how can I with people with you like you coming on saying stuff like that. This guy, you’re doing a bad job at gaining respect 🤓 to get people to care about this post. I don’t need y’all to care, I only need KABAM. #Kabam to care, not you, your a random person on this forum that has every right to express their own opinion on the public forum i posted and if they don’t, I’ll just keep reporting and trying to record the whole fight. Buts it’s kinda hard to record a bug when the Bug happens sporadically. I’ve literally been recording every fight I have then deleting the video of no bugs show up at this point. I spend way to much money on this game to just sit here and take it.
How you on here calling people losers and idiots for absolutely no reason. Then crying and apologizing then call people idiots and dumb again? Then acting delusional when asked to be respectful. Act shocked when asked respect. You got to give respect to earn it. It’s so rude for no reason. Also keep taunting kabam that you’ll “keep posting and do what you want and break forums rules” calling people down for no reason,bullying them, acting like a 5 year old temper tantrum. @Kabam Miike needs to come read this because it’s no way man. People banned from forums for less. There’s two videos. Botha ere 16 seconds and 29 seconds of AI not throwing specials. There’s no champ holding a special for 3 minutes as falsely claimed. Stop shitting on others and calling them names and act like an adult not a child. This is beyond embarrassing
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
My man how is he supposed to throw special if you either keep holding block or keep parrying him
https://youtu.be/JkxvSCK3WNY More players including Prof hoff have noticed the change in AI behavior, I’m not the only one. So what do you gotta say about them and their community’s experiencing the same thing??
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
My man how is he supposed to throw special if you either keep holding block or keep parrying him
https://youtu.be/JkxvSCK3WNY More players including Prof hoff have noticed the change in AI behavior, I’m not the only one. So what do you gotta say about them and their community’s experiencing the same thing??
Prof Hoff has always been a conspiracy theorist, so take what he says with a giant grain of salt.
However, in my opinion, the most notable "AI change" has been a change in their recovery time. For example, AI used to get knocked down and get back up/make a move after a certain amount of time. It FEELS like that process is much faster now. Could be a knock-on effect from server latency, though.
This is from the spider-man 2099. The fight was going pretty smooth despite my block not popping and my character dashing forward getting me hit instead of blocking. But hey I’m just bad right it’s not like I wanna make sure Kabam knows what we’re talking about right 🤓
My man how is he supposed to throw special if you either keep holding block or keep parrying him
https://youtu.be/JkxvSCK3WNY More players including Prof hoff have noticed the change in AI behavior, I’m not the only one. So what do you gotta say about them and their community’s experiencing the same thing??
Prof Hoff has always been a conspiracy theorist, so take what he says with a giant grain of salt.
However, in my opinion, the most notable "AI change" has been a change in their recovery time. For example, AI used to get knocked down and get back up/make a move after a certain amount of time. It FEELS like that process is much faster now. Could be a knock-on effect from server latency, though.
Yeeees again, bro I am so sorry if I was harsh to you, you genuinely have a great understanding of the game, and helped me to deal with the AI’s changes alot. And yea I agree, I usually take his vids with a grain a salt, but yea I’ve noticed the AI, even before fully getting up can throw SP 3. But thanks for explaining that very well.
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But, feel free to continue to be offended if you would like.
1. Although the AI can behave in ways that are extremely difficult to deal with at times, that doesn't mean it is bugged. The AI very clearly has parameters under which it operates, and within those parameters it randomly selects certain behaviors and preferences from fight to fight. Sometimes it is just especially nasty when it comes to using specials. That isn't obviously a case of being "bugged.' The AI might literally be doing that deliberately, or it might be doing that within the intentions of the devs (i.e. they didn't tell the AI to do that, but they allow it to do a range of things and that behavior is inside the lines.).
2. Because different players have different experiences, we all have different ideas of what is "unusual" AI behavior. What I see in this example is not unusual at all - the AI has been doing this since forever. When the AI has more than two bars of power and it has you in the corner, it is less likely to throw specials just to let you out. It tries to "corner" you. That *has* to be deliberate, because that behavior has been around for years, and because it makes sense if you believe the job of the AI is to put up a non-trivial fight.
I think, and I've been thinking about this for a while, we've all been on the wrong track with AI. The players keep reporting the AI as "bugged" or "inconsistent." But it is *supposed* to be inconsistent (i.e. not trivially predictable) and we assume if the AI is nasty it must be bugged. But why? Why assume that the AI is not supposed to fight hard? Why assume the AI is *supposed* to do stupid things to make the fights easier for us?
I think the question should be not whether the AI is bugged, but what the AI is even supposed to be doing. Is it *supposed* to try to fight "smart" and do what we would do in the same situation? Every time someone says the AI is bugged because it is doing X, I often think "so would I." But should it?
That's probably a discussion worth having eventually.
And for what it's worth, here's a video of me baiting special 1s and 2s consistently in Thronebreaker EQ Chapter 3.1 about 10 minutes ago. I made this video for you.
1. Hold Block or get your finger off it. Wait for your opponent to dash in. You should not be trying to parry!
2. Dex
3. REPEAT
SEEMS TO WORK OK.
Also, we can just complain about everything being bad, but if your problem with the AI is that "I can't dex all the time cause it doesn't work" that's not a problem the devs are likely to work on. They are not going to degrade the AI to meet the expectations of players who find that input issues are making it difficult for the AI to counter. That's simply never going to happen, period.
We can discuss how the AI should work, and we can discuss the issues players are having with the input controls in some circumstances, but if you're going to link the two, that becomes an intractable problem.
Ask my game crash, it’s hard to catch unless I record every match which I am gonna do, but sometimes when I’m hitting AI and hit with my SP2 they ded out of my combo crashing my game. Or the AI will be across the map, only for them to travel at light speed the mili second my block drops. Now I will gladly admit I just needed to get better at getting the AI to throw SP, I just have a hard time dealing with them having a lot of SP if I’m backed into the corner.
However, in my opinion, the most notable "AI change" has been a change in their recovery time. For example, AI used to get knocked down and get back up/make a move after a certain amount of time. It FEELS like that process is much faster now. Could be a knock-on effect from server latency, though.