TOS

Scottryan

Say I admit to breaking TOS in a Youtube video. Am I exempt from consequences because I admitted to it, or will I get banned like anyone else?

KRANꓘ

Yep everything is gonna be okay. Just turn yourself in.. All sins will be forgiven.
😜

DL864

You'll be fine. What's your YouTube channel?

Scottryan

DL864 said:

You'll be fine. What's your YouTube channel?

Oh its not actually me. I'm just asking for a friend

DL864

Lmao what's your friend's YouTube now I'm interested.

Scottryan

DL864 said:

Lmao what's your friend's YouTube now I'm interested.

R u trolling or do you not know?

DL864

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

Lmao what's your friend's YouTube now I'm interested.

R u trolling or do you not know?

I don't know for real.

Barrier Reef

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

You'll be fine. What's your YouTube channel?

Oh its not actually me. I'm just asking for a friend

Bro’s getting nervous and tryna cover it up now. 💀

winterthur

Game moderators repeatedly said they do not have access to accounts. They can bring up the case if they see it and still those tasked with the responsibilities to keep the game clean has to pore through the logs to verify TOS breaking.

HungaryHippo

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Scottryan

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

AverageDesi

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

Lmao what's your friend's YouTube now I'm interested.

R u trolling or do you not know?

I don't know for real.

https://youtu.be/L40Ck8kZbUM

Is there a tldw?

Scottryan

AverageDesi said:

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

Lmao what's your friend's YouTube now I'm interested.

R u trolling or do you not know?

I don't know for real.

https://youtu.be/L40Ck8kZbUM

Is there a tldw?

His account is bought
He used to merc
BUT he feels really bad about it and hasn't done it for a long time

Ang3lOfD3ath

Bruh im dead 😂

HungaryHippo

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

Scottryan

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Pikolu

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Scottryan

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

BigBlueOx

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

I’m sure there’s a bridge somewhere you can go bring this to the attention too.

winterthur

Scottryan said:

DL864 said:

You'll be fine. What's your YouTube channel?

Oh its not actually me. I'm just asking for a friend

You know him and vice versa?

HungaryHippo

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

Go look at where he started with that account and where it's at now. You clearly are not informed enough on this issue to be talking about it.

startropics

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

it was different then.

many current big accounts are second hand

5+ years ago it was customary to:

-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs
- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)
- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQ

if kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today.

MDx

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

Okay , I'll ask you directly , what do you want to happen ? You're inclining somewhere , say it openly buddy .

MDx

startropics said:

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

it was different then.

many current big accounts are second hand

5+ years ago it was customary to:

-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs
- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)
- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQ

if kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today.

Exactly , even kabam themselves made a big deal saying it isn't cool to share accounts and what not at that time . After which this whole scenario cooled down.
This guy would've known this if he were playing from a long time.

startropics

MDx said:

startropics said:

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

it was different then.

many current big accounts are second hand

5+ years ago it was customary to:

-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs
- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)
- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQ

if kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today.

Exactly , even kabam themselves made a big deal saying it isn't cool to share accounts and what not at that time . After which this whole scenario cooled down.
This guy would've known this if he were playing from a long time.

either that or he's angling to get him banned which is in poor taste and which won't happen anyway.

GroundedWisdom

Ejsjsjaian said:

Like Karen please they cant even make a sandwich properly

Enjoy your time on the Forum.

InsaneSkull

Scottryan said:

Say I admit to breaking TOS in a Youtube video. Am I exempt from consequences because I admitted to it, or will I get banned like anyone else?

Kabam needs proof in game. Outside sources are not valid.

Vegeta9001

If we're being technical, let's say I Merc'd a bunch of accounts a few years ago at the peak of MCOC and made a lot of money, but my personal account hasn't been touched by anyone but me, can they really ban my account since it hasn't broken any rules?

Also, i get you all like to ride your big moral high horses but if you think everyone ran their own accounts back then, you're sorely mistaken, one big alliance I know of I think three guys ran their entire respective BGs one guy to 10 accounts both aw and aq.

If you're good enough at the game and people are dumb enough to pay you hundreds back then for single runs of LoL I'm absolutely taking that money. Couple grand a week for little to no work.

Demonzfyre

The community has always been split on this. Everyone here treats emulator users, modders, hackers, botters and mercs like trash when they come and complain that their accounts were banned. We tell them that they got what they deserve and then if that person says they'll never do it again, we tell them too bad, so sad and to go away.

But KT1 gets a pass because not only is he a YouTuber, he par takes in the greatest bonding event there is, complaining about EVERYTHING, Kabam does. There isn't a single thing that will make most community members like someone better than bashing Kabam for every decision that was ever made, including bashing Miike and Jax about their shorts on a live stream.

It doesn't matter what KT1 did because he's a "champion for the people" even though he hasn't done a single thing for the game itself. But then there's someone like DNA3000 who actively helps the community but gets a fraction of the praise.

It's a weird dynamic.

Demonzfyre

startropics said:

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

it was different then.

many current big accounts are second hand

5+ years ago it was customary to:

-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs
- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)
- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQ

if kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today.

You should clarify that it was customary within the community, not with Kabam. They still banned people back then as well but back then, it was harder to catch them.

Kabam has NEVER approved of any of that behavior.

I_tell_no_tales_1

Demonzfyre said:

startropics said:

Scottryan said:

Pikolu said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

Scottryan said:

HungaryHippo said:

7+ years ago. Let’s drag up your entire history and go through what you’ve done the last 7 years.

KT could start a new account and still pass you with one hand tied behind his hand.

What you don’t realize is that people who were asked to pilot and merc were exceptionally skilled at the game. Keep whining.

Not whining, just curious if they're going to do anything, and if they're not if its because its been 7 years OR if its because of the size of his platform

Because it’s been 7 years. Maybe you should be talking about current TOS violations instead of talking about 7 year old issues?

But you clearly didn’t do this in good faith.

How exactly is this not in good faith?
I'm just curious if something is going to be done, and if not then why

Nothing will be done because it was 7 years ago. He has proven that he is reformed and hasn't broken the ToS since then. Punishing him now, after 7 years, would be a punishment done in bad faith.

Isn't he technically still breaking TOS by playing on an account that isn't his? I'm not sure how all that works but that was my understanding of it

it was different then.

many current big accounts are second hand

5+ years ago it was customary to:

-buy energy refills and war potions from mercs
- load the alliance treasury with loyalty, gold, and battlechips purchased from mercs (map 6 was so expensive even the "cleanest teams" with the best reps used to do this)
- in 2017-2018 in was common for the average player to finish their friend's quest or move them in AQ

if kabam banned for past tos violations, they would nuke most of masters, most competitive aq teams, many players below that, and even members of their own CCP if you get my drift. it was different back then. old times had different standards that you can't compare to today.

You should clarify that it was customary within the community, not with Kabam. They still banned people back then as well but back then, it was harder to catch them.

Kabam has NEVER approved of any of that behavior.

But still allowed it to happen
Silence is the sign of approval/agreement