Summoners Sigil/Black Iso Market update for Paragon
ShoNuff29
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5* sigil champs come with sign up
6* sigil champs available for 72 sigil tokens
7* sigil champs available for 160 sigil tokens
6* basic crystal available for 54 sig tokens
7* basic crystal available for 120 sig tokens
Trade 10K 6* shards for 2k 7* shards weekly
Trade 10K 6* shards for 1k Titan shards weekly
Trade 1 t6b or t3a for 1t6cc weekly
Trade 5* 2000 relic shards for 1000 6* relic shards
Trade 100 t1 primordial dust for 50 t2 primordial dust weekly
1 new exclusive Sigil champ each year. At the end of that year, champ remains available in BIM store, but also enters Titan and 6* feature crystals, followed by basic.
6* sigil champs available for 72 sigil tokens
7* sigil champs available for 160 sigil tokens
6* basic crystal available for 54 sig tokens
7* basic crystal available for 120 sig tokens
Trade 10K 6* shards for 2k 7* shards weekly
Trade 10K 6* shards for 1k Titan shards weekly
Trade 1 t6b or t3a for 1t6cc weekly
Trade 5* 2000 relic shards for 1000 6* relic shards
Trade 100 t1 primordial dust for 50 t2 primordial dust weekly
1 new exclusive Sigil champ each year. At the end of that year, champ remains available in BIM store, but also enters Titan and 6* feature crystals, followed by basic.
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But your suggestions are, IMO, very unrealistic and overly optimistic in a heavy bias towards player benefit.
10k 6* shards for either 2k 7* shard or 1k Titan shards? That's nowhere near the actual ratio or valuation of any of those resources. Let's look at these from the most generous possible in-game transition available to us. We spend 10k shards for a 6* basic pool crystal and receive a duped character at max sigs. That's giving us 550 7* shards at most. You've asked for 2k shards instead, which is a 264% increase here.
Then you've also asked for Titan shards to be considered at a 1:2 ratio with 7* basic shards. If we are being as generous as possible with opening 7* crystals, and getting a max sig crystal which doubles the amount of titan shards we receive with 100% efficiency, it would still take 37 base crystals to obtain a Titan crystal. That's 555000 7* shards for 20000 Titan shards. If I mathed correctly, that means it actually takes 111 7* shards for 4 Titan shards. Your request of 2 7* shards for 1 Titan shard is quite a leap.
I do like your idea of a new Sigil champ every year that would rotate into the basic/titan pool after a time of sigil store exclusivity.
I agree, the trade numbers I put are overly optimistic, but if I saw a trade that only offered something like 100 Titan shards when I need TWENTY THOUSAND to form a crystal, it would just piss me off. Whatever they come up with, the number at least needs to move the needle.
Right now, I’d just love to hear from someone saying they’re at least working on it. Glory is buffed, incursions rewards were buffed, BG store was buffed a bit ago, and loyalty buff should probably be next week… it’s black iso markets turn.
But it's important to actually factor in current value, even if you feel it's outdated. Coming at them with something too high is probably just going to result in it being dismissed. Kabam has said many times they will converse with us if we're being constructive and offering feedback. We as a community need to keep in mind that very few conversations which involve Kabam community members actually improve in tone and temper over time. Meaning the longer they go on and the more they're involved, typically the more unrealistic and deconstructive some people become. If the conversation starts and it appears to be coming from an unrealistic or tense place, there's not much incentive for them to join it.
If we want more transparency and better communication from Kabam, that's exactly what we need to give them.
Your ask for the store to be updated. Completely realistic and understandable.
Your expectation of having some sort of response from Kabam, even if it's just: "We are looking into it and it's on our agenda as a priority." Is also something that I think is beyond reasonable. The sigil store hasn't been updated since inception. It's well past due. It's something we pay for. I only caution against diminishing the merits behind your request by throwing expectations at them which will only come across as entitled and unrealistic.
It doesn't build the foundation of a healthy conversation.
Personally: I would like to see an additional subscription tier added. I would like to see the initial tier improved, not just the initial store remain exactly as is and only the second tier offer improvements. I would actually like to see some aspects of the initial store filter towards the FTP community (inventory increase, item trades/exchanges, Sigil Witch rotated into the basic/titan pool, etc..) and I think this is actually one of the most important aspects because I believe it would encourage Kabam to update the Sigil store more frequently. The sigil store is a way for players to support the game and keep things improving, but to do that the store itself needs to keep improving and things that are implemented into the store eventually need to filter into the base game so that FTP players can benefit as well.
Edit: Forgot to include the discounted featured crystal every 2 weeks. I guess that’s decent since I don’t open featured crystals at full price