This doesn’t make any sense…

SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 ★★★★★
What is this number supposed to mean?

Zemo’s bleed doesn’t deal 40 damage per second, it deals 88 in battlegrounds and arena and 111 in any other content…



Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

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  • pseudosanepseudosane Member, Guardian Posts: 4,004 Guardian
    Th synergy bonus is on other champs as well .Unfortunate but it is what it is.
  • Noob_Master69Noob_Master69 Member Posts: 700 ★★★★



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 ★★★★★



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,714 ★★★★★



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 ★★★★★
    ahmynuts said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
    Aight, but what about the wrong number in the ability description?
  • hi_im_sirhi_im_sir Member Posts: 271 ★★
    edited September 2023

    ahmynuts said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
    Aight, but what about the wrong number in the ability description?
    Dmg is probably effected by masteries so the bleed being 44 is understandable
  • iDestroyerZiDestroyerZ Member Posts: 729 ★★★★
    edited September 2023
    I'd assume that it's because of physical resist....the same way that incinerate gives energy damage so the energy resist of the champion will have an affect, i think bleed counts as physical so that's why in different content we see different damage...also masteries have an effect as well
    That's just what i think it is, can't say for sure
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,796 Guardian



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    If the bleed damage doesn't matter, why do you care if the bonus is in his synergies or not?

    It is because it does matter.
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,714 ★★★★★

    ahmynuts said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
    Aight, but what about the wrong number in the ability description?
    I wasnt disagreeing with you btw. I think self synergy are stupid but i can understand why they're there (they're still stupid though)
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,796 Guardian

    ahmynuts said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
    Aight, but what about the wrong number in the ability description?
    That one is weird. I cannot explain the difference in controlled testing either. I'll try to see if anyone knows more than me about this.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,796 Guardian

    ahmynuts said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
    Aight, but what about the wrong number in the ability description?
    Just out of curiosity, what was your Zemo's attack value in those two circumstances? I can see your PI is different, implying different masteries and such. Was your attack around 4400 in Battlegrounds and around 5600 in RoL due to masteries, synergies, and such?
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    If the bleed damage doesn't matter, why do you care if the bonus is in his synergies or not?

    It is because it does matter.
    On defense I meant, he ain’t killing you with the bleed
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 ★★★★★

    I'd assume that it's because of physical resist....the same way that incinerate gives energy damage so the energy resist of the champion will have an affect, i think bleed counts as physical so that's why in different content we see different damage...also masteries have an effect as well
    That's just what i think it is, can't say for sure

    Bleed ignores physical resist and armor I think
  • SecondSkrillerSecondSkriller Member Posts: 1,323 ★★★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    ahmynuts said:



    Also, @Kabam Miike is there a reason why the deep wounds bonus is placed in his synergies and not his base kit? This is harming his damage in battlegrounds…

    I'm not sure about the other stuff, but I'm decently sure that the exact reason it's a synergy is BECAUSE of stuff like Battlegrounds, AW Defense, quest defense, etc.

    There are multiple champs that have self-synergies most likely for this exact reason
    I know bruh it’s just that his damage is ass in bg and I don’t see a reason why this should be there. Also, no one’s dying from his bleed damage in any type of content, it’s the fury that gets you, so this makes no sense.
    Every other champ with a self synergy says hello
    Aight, but what about the wrong number in the ability description?
    Just out of curiosity, what was your Zemo's attack value in those two circumstances? I can see your PI is different, implying different masteries and such. Was your attack around 4400 in Battlegrounds and around 5600 in RoL due to masteries, synergies, and such?
    No, should be the same Zemo, it’s just the stupid self synergy that bumps his PI
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