Silent Change, or New Bug?

Nemesis_17

Many of you may recognize this quest as 6.4.1, the home of the punching bag Deadpool.

But somehow it’s letting me in with a team of all 4*, even though act 6 is only supposed to be limited to 5* and above. I tested this in a few other act 6 quests and it worked in all of them. If this is intended, honestly it’s a good change, but I have a feeling this is another update bug.

Bendy

Cool if it stays as act 7 testing with 4s awesome

Nemesis_17

Bendy said:

Cool if it stays as act 7 testing with 4s awesome

Yeah honestly it should’ve been like this from the beginning.

rcm2017

Wow!!! Hope it stays that way.

Nemesis_17

rcm2017 said:

Wow!!! Hope it stays that way.

Same, no harm in leaving it as is even if it is a bug.

Demonzfyre

Definitely a silent change. There's no such thing as bugs.

Nemesis_17

Demonzfyre said:

Definitely a silent change. There's no such thing as bugs.

Of course, what was I thinking.

flapjax

I believe the term is silent nerf, and you have to say it with much more indignation.

Nemesis_17

flapjax said:

I believe the term is silent nerf, and you have to say it with much more indignation.

I think it’s more so a buff than a nerf, it just allows progressing players to use that free 4* Hercules they got a few months ago lol.

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus

I see nothing wrong with this

Nemesis_17

Hera1d_of_Ga1actus said:

I see nothing wrong with this

Seems just fine to me

pseudosane

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

Nemesis_17

New development: For some reason this does not work at all in Act 8, yet perfectly fine in acts 6 & 7. Makes it seem like this actually is intended.

Nemesis_17

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

I’m not sure what to think atm lol, someone in my global mentioned it so I tested it and made a post.

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Bendy

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

Aw sucks but i think the 1-3s should be banned mostly due to the symbiote

Viper198787

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

GinjabredMonsta

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

ahmynuts

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Originally it was pretty much so people couldn't bring in their 4 stars for synergy purposes and Quake. Now it's the same but also add Hercules and Kitty lol

Fit_Fun9329

It’s not a popular opinion but I miss the stone hard difficulty of act 6. I also liked the star level gate.

ahmynuts

Fit_Fun9329 said:

It’s not a popular opinion but I miss the stone hard difficulty of act 6. I also liked the star level gate.

Agree. OG Act 6 was way more fun. The original act 7 on the other hand.... Im glad they changed that though lmao

Nemesis_17

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

Nemesis_17

Fit_Fun9329 said:

It’s not a popular opinion but I miss the stone hard difficulty of act 6. I also liked the star level gate.

I understand missing that feeling, but at this point in the game act 6 is no longer end game content. Also I still don’t think the 5*+ gates are the way to add challenge, as it adds far more niche than challenge imho.

ahmynuts

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

Typhoon

ahmynuts said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:

It’s not a popular opinion but I miss the stone hard difficulty of act 6. I also liked the star level gate.

Agree. OG Act 6 was way more fun. The original act 7 on the other hand.... Im glad they changed that though lmao

it was the last truly challenging content that didn't require revive spamming with enough planning and thought.

Fit_Fun9329

Nemesis_17 said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:

It’s not a popular opinion but I miss the stone hard difficulty of act 6. I also liked the star level gate.

I understand missing that feeling, but at this point in the game act 6 is no longer end game content. Also I still don’t think the 5*+ gates are the way to add challenge, as it adds far more niche than challenge imho.

The definition of endgame content did definitely change

Nemesis_17

Fit_Fun9329 said:

Nemesis_17 said:

Fit_Fun9329 said:

It’s not a popular opinion but I miss the stone hard difficulty of act 6. I also liked the star level gate.

I understand missing that feeling, but at this point in the game act 6 is no longer end game content. Also I still don’t think the 5*+ gates are the way to add challenge, as it adds far more niche than challenge imho.

The definition of endgame content did definitely change

Yeah for sure, if this was act 8 we were talking about I’d fully agree with your point.

Graves_3

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

I did explore OG act 6 but I disagree that people doing act 6 now should go through the same restrictions and wait that long for appropriate counters. The game has moved on from where we were a few years ago. The difficulty level for early content should decrease proportionately or new people won’t stay interested in the game

Nemesis_17

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

I very respectfully disagree, players can reach act 6 now within a month if picking up the game. (Especially with the new act 4 & 5 nerfs.) Oftentimes they won’t have the proper counter, and they shouldn’t be forced to wait on one. Being stuck in story due to skill I understand, but this is just niche. If I had waited for a proper counter to that fight my roster would look drastically different than it does now.

ahmynuts

Nemesis_17 said:

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

I very respectfully disagree, players can reach act 6 now within a month if picking up the game. (Especially with the new act 4 & 5 nerfs.) Oftentimes they won’t have the proper counter, and they shouldn’t be forced to wait on one. Being stuck in story due to skill I understand, but this is just niche. If I had waited for a proper counter to that fight my roster would look drastically different than it does now.

Nemesis_17 said:

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

I very respectfully disagree, players can reach act 6 now within a month if picking up the game. (Especially with the new act 4 & 5 nerfs.) Oftentimes they won’t have the proper counter, and they shouldn’t be forced to wait on one. Being stuck in story due to skill I understand, but this is just niche. If I had waited for a proper counter to that fight my roster would look drastically different than it does now.

I agree with both of you for most of this but disagree on the point of these restrictions being removed only because that was the point of act 6. Its identity was the act where you needed to learn about different nodes and interactions and have counters to them, not just unga bunga smash your way through

ahmynuts

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

I very respectfully disagree, players can reach act 6 now within a month if picking up the game. (Especially with the new act 4 & 5 nerfs.) Oftentimes they won’t have the proper counter, and they shouldn’t be forced to wait on one. Being stuck in story due to skill I understand, but this is just niche. If I had waited for a proper counter to that fight my roster would look drastically different than it does now.

Nemesis_17 said:

ahmynuts said:

Nemesis_17 said:

GinjabredMonsta said:

Viper198787 said:

pseudosane said:

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. I've reported it to kabam. This is obviously a bug.

But why? Who is it hurting? I never understood why there was a restriction in the first place. If people want to bring 4* into Act 6 because they’re masochists, let them.

Synergies is the reason for the restriction I believe , but I could be wrong

Even if it’s for synergies, they should just let it stay like this. I had to beat 6.2.2 Mr Sinister with -90% damage the whole fight because I didn’t get the right pulls, and I know plenty of others who had the same scenario. This wouldn’t be game breaking by any means.

That's the point. Patience young Padawan

I very respectfully disagree, players can reach act 6 now within a month if picking up the game. (Especially with the new act 4 & 5 nerfs.) Oftentimes they won’t have the proper counter, and they shouldn’t be forced to wait on one. Being stuck in story due to skill I understand, but this is just niche. If I had waited for a proper counter to that fight my roster would look drastically different than it does now.

I agree with both of you for most of this but disagree on the point of these restrictions being removed only because that was the point of act 6. Its identity was the act where you needed to learn about different nodes and interactions and have counters to them, not just unga bunga smash your way through.

The original act 7 however was taking this waaaay too far into the realm of absolute bs and obvious sinks for your items though and because of Seatins massive state of the game video and Optimus Prime level speech amongst other things,the community rallied together for boycotts and the sort it was changed to what we have now which is basically an unga bunga fest. Newer players need somewhere to learn about deeper mechanics of the game or else we will keep having threads and players being confused and not understanding what's going on. Act 6 used to be that place but now it's pretty much nowhere

Idk why it posted like this but y'all get my point lol